Implications Of Buying An Old Church / Chapel ?
Discussion
I'm considering buying an old Chapel / Church / Church hall in Wales
I want it as a base to ride / store motorcycles for myself but with the idea of using it for small groups in the future
They are rural and typically under £100k
I'm aware they are mostly D1 use class and there are generally obligations regarding maintenance both of the building and the grounds and some are listed
Is there anything else to be aware of ?
I've seen a cheap one going to auction shortly and am tempted to have a bid - I probably won't win it as I only want it if it's cheap
I want it as a base to ride / store motorcycles for myself but with the idea of using it for small groups in the future
They are rural and typically under £100k
I'm aware they are mostly D1 use class and there are generally obligations regarding maintenance both of the building and the grounds and some are listed
Is there anything else to be aware of ?
I've seen a cheap one going to auction shortly and am tempted to have a bid - I probably won't win it as I only want it if it's cheap
https://www.savoystewart.co.uk/blog/commercial-pro...
If I was risking 100k, I would invest in some up front advice from a specialist, especially if you are considering needing to change its classification?
If I was risking 100k, I would invest in some up front advice from a specialist, especially if you are considering needing to change its classification?
Check if its listed, though just being used as storage / social hub should be alright in terms of listed status.
Theres a really nice chapel close to us that recently has come up for sale, in a great location at only 110k. However its Grade II* listed (much more honerous than Grade II), so basically can't do anything with it other than continue its use as a chapel, host weddings etc. Hence the price.
Theres a really nice chapel close to us that recently has come up for sale, in a great location at only 110k. However its Grade II* listed (much more honerous than Grade II), so basically can't do anything with it other than continue its use as a chapel, host weddings etc. Hence the price.
SO next door to us was up for sale at the same time as we were. Grade 2 listed, built 1862, and had been used as a variety of uses, last as an antiques place.
Lots of building issues, damp, flaking of bricks/stones, roof leaks, limited toilet/kitchen facilities. I was forever helping repair it as we had a shared wall...
Do get it properly inspected. Check out restrictions on usage. However the space can be great
Obviously be aware of if your local council will stitch you up for second property tax...
Lots of building issues, damp, flaking of bricks/stones, roof leaks, limited toilet/kitchen facilities. I was forever helping repair it as we had a shared wall...
Do get it properly inspected. Check out restrictions on usage. However the space can be great
Obviously be aware of if your local council will stitch you up for second property tax...
Juan B said:
Check if its listed, though just being used as storage / social hub should be alright in terms of listed status.
Theres a really nice chapel close to us that recently has come up for sale, in a great location at only 110k. However its Grade II* listed (much more honerous than Grade II), so basically can't do anything with it other than continue its use as a chapel, host weddings etc. Hence the price.
£110k is a lot for a Welsh chapel Theres a really nice chapel close to us that recently has come up for sale, in a great location at only 110k. However its Grade II* listed (much more honerous than Grade II), so basically can't do anything with it other than continue its use as a chapel, host weddings etc. Hence the price.
These were on the market for ages because IMO the terms of the sale / use were unreasonable
https://www.rightmove.co.uk/properties/130414460#/...
This was a great building but I want a rural location
https://www.rightmove.co.uk/properties/155911151
Edited by KTMsm on Thursday 6th March 09:23
KTMsm said:
£110k is a lot for a Welsh chapel
These were on the market for ages because IMO the terms of the sale / use were unreasonable
https://www.rightmove.co.uk/properties/130414460#/...
This was a great building but I want a rural location
https://www.rightmove.co.uk/properties/155911151
Yeah this one wasn't in Wales (though not far off) is in Parkgate on the Wirral. Those above look like you could decently convert them for a few different uses maybe. This one below is a lovely building but with the Grade II* I assume all of the internal features/ benches etc area all protected as well, unlikely to be much change of use, especially to residential (which I know a lot of people would oppose anyway). 110k would be a bargain if someone takes a punt on it and gets planning for resi. These were on the market for ages because IMO the terms of the sale / use were unreasonable
https://www.rightmove.co.uk/properties/130414460#/...
This was a great building but I want a rural location
https://www.rightmove.co.uk/properties/155911151
Edited by KTMsm on Thursday 6th March 09:23
https://www.rightmove.co.uk/properties/154624805#/...
KTMsm said:
Juan B said:
Check if its listed, though just being used as storage / social hub should be alright in terms of listed status.
Theres a really nice chapel close to us that recently has come up for sale, in a great location at only 110k. However its Grade II* listed (much more honerous than Grade II), so basically can't do anything with it other than continue its use as a chapel, host weddings etc. Hence the price.
£110k is a lot for a Welsh chapel Theres a really nice chapel close to us that recently has come up for sale, in a great location at only 110k. However its Grade II* listed (much more honerous than Grade II), so basically can't do anything with it other than continue its use as a chapel, host weddings etc. Hence the price.
These were on the market for ages because IMO the terms of the sale / use were unreasonable
https://www.rightmove.co.uk/properties/130414460#/...
This was a great building but I want a rural location
https://www.rightmove.co.uk/properties/155911151
Edited by KTMsm on Thursday 6th March 09:23
Thats massive by the way.
Might be helpful
https://www.gwynedd.llyw.cymru/en/Residents/Docume...
Oh spoke to our old neighbours who have sold now. Watch out for covenants. They had one that said no alcohol on site...
KTMsm said:
Byker28i said:
Obviously be aware of if your local council will stitch you up for second property tax...
I presume until it's re classified as residential (if ever) that won't apply although I'm ignorant to any costs that might apply - I'll have a Google Wales had introduced 3x Council Tax for 2nd home owners....now (I think) reduced to maybe 1.5-2x, but certainly a punitive thing.
Some lovely spots there - Builth Wells is a decent sized town, but near very rural areas (having run Gold DofE in Mid-Wales on a number of occasions!) - that one looks HUGE!
Wacky Racer said:
What area of Wales?
They don't like "foreigners" in some parts.
A few months after moving to Swansea I said to my newly made friends in my local "I'm surprised by how welcoming everyone's been to me since moving" one of the old boys said "we don't mind the fact you've moved over from England - but if you'd moved over from Cardiff you'd have had to find a different bar to drink in" They don't like "foreigners" in some parts.
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