Hayes Electrical Substation Fire

Hayes Electrical Substation Fire

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SpeedBash

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2,456 posts

200 months

Friday 21st March
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Started late on Thursday evening and, at the time of writing, appears LFB are still working to bring it under control.

Hopefully, no casualties when this does eventually get sorted.

LFB: Fire at electrical substation - Hayes

Hayes fire: Heathrow airport closed for 24Hrs after blaze at electrical substation in west London

Countdown

43,864 posts

209 months

Friday 21st March
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I’m surprised Heathrow doesn’t have its own generators for this kind of eventuality.

eliot

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267 months

Friday 21st March
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Countdown said:
I’m surprised Heathrow doesn’t have its own generators for this kind of eventuality.
They would have gennys for the critical stuff (although they have failed in the past) but I doubt very much that they would have enough genny capacity to run the non critical “house” loads which will be substantial, besides there’s going be multiple substations running that place.

London424

12,940 posts

188 months

Friday 21st March
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Up early for first flight out to Copenhagen and get the email saying flight cancelled. Back to bed for a couple of hours

wisbech

3,609 posts

134 months

Friday 21st March
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eliot said:
They would have gennys for the critical stuff (although they have failed in the past) but I doubt very much that they would have enough genny capacity to run the non critical “house” loads which will be substantial, besides there’s going be multiple substations running that place.
This - there will be enough to keep the runway lights and ATC on. But not enough for the pumps for the fuel systems, heating, baggage systems etc.

So if aircraft were on final approach, they can still land.

WonkeyDonkey

2,460 posts

116 months

Friday 21st March
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Closing Heathrow must be a logistical nightmare for all the flights currently in air.

Flights being diverted everywhere, mainly Gatwick but quite a few to Amsterdam and even Helsinki. What a nightmare for the passengers!

Probably a good job it happened overnight as I'd imagine a lot of these airports would only have spare capacity in the early hours of the morning.

Edited by WonkeyDonkey on Friday 21st March 05:06

Bright Halo

3,473 posts

248 months

Friday 21st March
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You would think with it being so vital to keep Heathrow going that there would be a back up supply so power supply would be switched to be drawn from another substation?

Tim330

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225 months

Friday 21st March
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I was just over 2 hours out of Miami heading to Heathrow when we had to turn back, not fun at Miami trying to get rebooked

Cold

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103 months

Friday 21st March
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Russia whistles innocently.

Vasco

17,957 posts

118 months

Friday 21st March
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All those planes now in the wrong place. Air crews out of flying hours, passengers plans messed up for many days.
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How on earth was there no effective Plan B ??

easytiger123

2,647 posts

222 months

Friday 21st March
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The silence in the skies above NW London is remarkable. You get so used to the sound of aircraft engines, that it's only when it stops that it seems strange.

100SRV

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255 months

Friday 21st March
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Cold said:
Russia whistles innocently.
That was my first thought too..

W12GT

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234 months

Friday 21st March
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Cold said:
Russia whistles innocently.
This was my first thought, given other fires in Europe.

WestyCarl

3,628 posts

138 months

Friday 21st March
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100SRV said:
Cold said:
Russia whistles innocently.
That was my first thought too..
Igor and Ivan now looking at their return flight tickets realising the escape plan wasn't fully though through.....

Alex Z

1,708 posts

89 months

Friday 21st March
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Vasco said:
All those planes now in the wrong place. Air crews out of flying hours, passengers plans messed up for many days.
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How on earth was there no effective Plan B ??
That would mean a spare Heathrow waiting to be used.

Ian Geary

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205 months

Friday 21st March
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Vasco said:
All those planes now in the wrong place. Air crews out of flying hours, passengers plans messed up for many days.
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How on earth was there no effective Plan B ??
I think this is it.

Plan A is to have a working airport.

Plan B is to not have a working airport and everyone just do something else for a while.

Our country's financial position is no secret and it just wouldn't be feasible to build surplus capacity into infrastructure to the extent you have an entirely duplicated energy system.

Critical stuff:yes but as already pointed out, the entire airport works on electricity, from the automatic doors down to the overpriced vending machines.

Vasco

17,957 posts

118 months

Friday 21st March
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Alex Z said:
Vasco said:
All those planes now in the wrong place. Air crews out of flying hours, passengers plans messed up for many days.
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How on earth was there no effective Plan B ??
That would mean a spare Heathrow waiting to be used.
Really ? - I was thinking of a back-up electricity substation that could be brought into use.
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White-Noise

5,074 posts

261 months

Friday 21st March
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Be interesting to see what they make of this. I had Russia in my mind as well.

fourstardan

5,427 posts

157 months

Friday 21st March
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I've looked at the departures board and flights are still going out ?


Murph7355

39,989 posts

269 months

Friday 21st March
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eliot said:
Countdown said:
I’m surprised Heathrow doesn’t have its own generators for this kind of eventuality.
They would have gennys for the critical stuff (although they have failed in the past) but I doubt very much that they would have enough genny capacity to run the non critical “house” loads which will be substantial, besides there’s going be multiple substations running that place.
Indeed.

More surprising is the lack of diverse supplies. Not cool for a site like this.