RE: Volkswagen Up GTI | Spotted

RE: Volkswagen Up GTI | Spotted

Monday 7th April

Volkswagen Up GTI | Spotted

VW's smallest hot hatch tended to divide opinion in its lifetime - what about now?


The subject of the Up GTI always provoked lively discussion in PH headquarters. Some considered it the best thing Volkswagen had done in years - a lively, fun-loving riposte to a hot hatch segment that had become increasingly staid over the years. Others thought it overrated and not really worthy of the GTI badge its maker had cagey grafted onto the bootlid. Now, two years on from the model’s retirement - leaving the venerable Polo as the entry-level hatchback in VW’s increasingly electrified lineup - it’s probably safe to conclude that both sides of the fence had a valid point. 

Though the concept of a souped-up city car was effectively an open goal, VW did itself no real favours with persistent references to the Mk1 Golf GTI. In fairness, this was mostly based on numbers (a German weakness) but from a distance it made it seem like the manufacturer was attempting to confer seminal status on the Up - a reputation it certainly had no right to, either mechanically or spiritually. A common complaint among naysayers was that VW hadn’t applied itself rigorously enough to the car’s development; and that had it done so, a car for the ages might’ve resulted. 

Certainly, no one could mistake the GTI’s limitations if you went looking for them. The breathed-on 1.0-litre three-pot was spritely, but its 8.8-second-0-62mph time did betray an obvious handicap when it came to pushing on - one that you rarely encounter in modern hot hatches. Its failure to seem ‘fast’ in that context was at the root of many counter arguments when someone else was moved to describe the flagship Up as the most amusing thing one could do without removing one's trousers beforehand. 

Of course, nothing that has happened in the intervening years has alleviated that concern. You’d struggle to build an electric car as slow as the Up GTI. Nevertheless, the arrival of small EVs has also served to highlight just how liberating it was to drive. Sure, there were better and more exciting one-tonne hatchbacks in preceding generations (any stripe of Renaultsport Clio or Twingo is in a different league) but there was something undeniably amusing about giving the Up death in virtually any given circumstance. 

Back in 2018, this seemed enlivening enough to easily justify the car’s modest asking price. Today, when we are minded to congratulate a manufacturer for not exceeding two metric tonnes, the GTI’s combination of low weight, low complexity and minuscule size must feel like drinking a glass of Pimms after you’ve been gagging down runny porridge. Who cares about being left at the lights by all and sundry when your prevailing mood is the equivalent of a giant helium balloon? 

The Up’s used prices suggest that people’s opinion of the car has stayed similarly buoyant. VW’s shameless price gouging toward the end of the GTI’s life (its cost being heavily inflated with no tangible improvement to its hardware) did put some off - although it does mean that a low mileage example like this one can be had for roughly the same amount you would’ve paid for it at launch. Back then, £13k looked like a bargain for a car endowed with both an old-school sensibility and (some) mod cons. Nowadays? Well, you decide…


SPECIFICATION | VOLKSWAGEN UP GTI

Engine: 999cc, three-cyl turbo
Transmission: Six-speed manual, front-wheel drive
Power (hp): 115@5000-5500rpm
Torque (lb ft): 148@2000-3500rpm
MPG: 53
CO2: 121g/km
Year registered: 2018
Recorded mileage: 17,000
Price new: £16,540
Yours for: £13,199

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wistec1

Original Poster:

612 posts

55 months

Monday 7th April
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I think the UP gti is ageing well,and for my eyes looked great from the off but one can't help see that this is was missed opportunity for VW to create what could have been a proper iconic performance model like the Toyota GR Yaris.

DuffACL

7 posts

32 months

Monday 7th April
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We've got a 5 door version in the same colour. It is hands down the most loved car we've ever had in the family. Mrs Duff loves it and nearly took me down when I mentioned selling it once. Scary....The eldest learnt to drive in it and it was universally adored by him and all his mates. The mighty Up GTI may be flawed as a hot hatch, but that's missing the point. It's a warmed over Up with a bit of attitude. It's small enough for the commute in and out of work each day, easy to park, easy to drive and has enough punch to get you out of trouble if you need to. It's surprisingly roomy and has moved kids to and from Uni with all their clobber when needed. It's what my wife calls a "peep peep" car. Small, but feisty.

One down side is the slightly oversized alloys. They look great, but mark easily and badly. Also, they are unforgiving on the potholes. I've had to replace three new front tires in the last 18 months that have been destroyed by the roads. Now working on going down a wheel size and keeping the same diameter tire to give more side wall and hopefully a bit more scope for not splitting the side walls when hitting the inevitable crater. Given we are not going to be setting lap records on the Nordschleife every day, it shouldn't affect the overall driving experience.

They're great cars. Basic, but a keeper.

TheMilkyBarKid

731 posts

43 months

Monday 7th April
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Fun little car, but I’m going to be boringly predictable I’m afraid, because whilst this is available for only a little more, and at a comparable age and mileage, it’s where my money would go. Sorry.

https://www.pistonheads.com/buy/listing/18282044

andrewpandrew

463 posts

3 months

Monday 7th April
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Had two of these, including a red 3-door 68-plate and a silver 21-plate 5 door. Absolutely love them, but ultimately the ride quality and damping is a weak point that I couldn't continue to tolerate.

mooseracer

2,349 posts

184 months

Monday 7th April
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TheMilkyBarKid said:
Fun little car, but I’m going to be boringly predictable I’m afraid, because whilst this is available for only a little more, and at a comparable age and mileage, it’s where my money would go. Sorry.

https://www.pistonheads.com/buy/listing/18282044
And very wise that would be too.

biggbn

26,959 posts

234 months

Monday 7th April
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Often looked at these, and the wee 'hot' Kia Picanto. Owners have about them as well.

LHB

8,031 posts

157 months

Monday 7th April
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Love spotting these out and about, always makes me smile seeing one. Great looking little things. I wouldn't get one but I'd love to have a go in one down a B road!

pb8g09

2,797 posts

83 months

Monday 7th April
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I'd still go for an Audi S1 over one of these - that's a truly unique package for the price and far better optioned too despite it's older architecture.

I've driven one of these and it has that 'driving your first car at 17 like you stole it kind of enjoyment' whereas I think the cars you'd consider alternatively are more like 'the car you actually wanted when you were 17'.

daytonavrs

850 posts

98 months

Monday 7th April
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VFM for me would surely be the Abarth 500 rather than this. Although its probably about 70Kg heavier

Did they even bother to have rear arch linings on this "top of the range" Up ?

andrewpandrew

463 posts

3 months

Monday 7th April
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daytonavrs said:
VFM for me would surely be the Abarth 500 rather than this. Although its probably about 70Kg heavier

Did they even bother to have rear arch linings on this "top of the range" Up ?
Yes.

But FWIW, the up! GTI has beat the Abarth 500 in every comparison I've read or seen.

Liberator65

43 posts

81 months

Monday 7th April
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Too small.When i had my Lupo GTI folk used to tailgate and try to bully me all the time. Same will happen with this car. They look like they're sitting in your back seat!.

s94wht

2,100 posts

73 months

Monday 7th April
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Never quite got on with the look of these. I know they're supposed to be fun, but the Up! is just fundamentally a granny car to me

dunnoreally

1,272 posts

122 months

Monday 7th April
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6 years and only 3 grand in depreciation. Regardless of whether this is a good example of the breed, I suspect if someone could get another light and cheap city car with a bit of extra grunt through emissions regs they'd sell a good number of them.

I think I'd have picked a Swift Sport over one of these personally, but I'd put that down to a personal bias towards Japanese stuff just as much as anything else. Certainly a shame no-one makes anything like this anymore. I'd love for Hyundai to stick a turbo engine and an N badge on the i10...


Matty_

2,148 posts

271 months

Monday 7th April
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Best car I've ever owned. Costs nothing to run, works every turn of the key and just enough power to be fun without breaking every speed limit. On 63k miles and still on factory disks and pads biggrin.

I get the Fiesta comparison, but that's a next class up. It's a Polo competitor. It's a bit like saying not to buy a Fiesta, you should buy a Golf.....not if I don't need a Golf sized car or want Golf running costs.




leggerito

22 posts

3 months

Monday 7th April
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We're taking ours from London to Cornwall at the end of the month, dog in tow. If you understand its limits and work within them, then a fantastic bit of kit.

Have heard of owners keeping the stock alloys but upgrading the 195 to 205 width tyres for a bit more resilience. I'm about 1 more puncture away from doing it myself.

resolve10

1,170 posts

59 months

Monday 7th April
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Matty_ said:
I get the Fiesta comparison, but that's a next class up. It's a Polo competitor. It's a bit like saying not to buy a Fiesta, you should buy a Golf.....not if I don't need a Golf sized car or want Golf running costs.
The Fiesta isn't a huge car though, nor would it be ruinously expensive to run (granted a little thirstier than the Up). I don't think it's an unreasonable comparison and it makes the Up look like a hard sell to me.



Matt_T

823 posts

88 months

Monday 7th April
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dunnoreally said:
I think I'd have picked a Swift Sport over one of these personally, but I'd put that down to a personal bias towards Japanese stuff just as much as anything else. Certainly a shame no-one makes anything like this anymore. I'd love for Hyundai to stick a turbo engine and an N badge on the i10...
I've always thought that these look quite fun...
https://www.pistonheads.com/buy/listing/18322170

Baldchap

9,123 posts

106 months

Monday 7th April
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The wife has one and it's great.

Remapped to about 145bhp and with lighter (white) Oz wheels with decent rubber it's brilliant!

S600BSB

6,532 posts

120 months

Monday 7th April
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dunnoreally said:
6 years and only 3 grand in depreciation. Regardless of whether this is a good example of the breed, I suspect if someone could get another light and cheap city car with a bit of extra grunt through emissions regs they'd sell a good number of them.

I think I'd have picked a Swift Sport over one of these personally, but I'd put that down to a personal bias towards Japanese stuff just as much as anything else. Certainly a shame no-one makes anything like this anymore. I'd love for Hyundai to stick a turbo engine and an N badge on the i10...
Agree, the Swift is a better buy.

Augustus Windsock

3,606 posts

169 months

Monday 7th April
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I’d love one as a ‘peep peep’ car, but I think AvailableCar have got it priced £3k more than I think it’s worth to me.
The only thing that put me off when I had a sit in one was the seats: just standard flattish seats with little support but with the ‘luxury’ of having tartan fabric trim.
I’d probably swap out the drivers seat for something a little more supportive though…