Garage v Driveway
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One thing I have often wondered is the benefit of keeping a car in the garage, especially the daily.
Obviously it needs to be correctly garaged, not closed up when it is wet and so on.
We are a three car family. Two are garaged and the daily is kept on the drive. The daily generally is a 2-3 year old car kept for about 10 years.
Has anyone carried out an experiment with two identical cars to compare the difference in lifespan for a garaged car compared to one kept on the drive?
Obviously it needs to be correctly garaged, not closed up when it is wet and so on.
We are a three car family. Two are garaged and the daily is kept on the drive. The daily generally is a 2-3 year old car kept for about 10 years.
Has anyone carried out an experiment with two identical cars to compare the difference in lifespan for a garaged car compared to one kept on the drive?
Slow.Patrol said:
One thing I have often wondered is the benefit of keeping a car in the garage, especially the daily.
Obviously it needs to be correctly garaged, not closed up when it is wet and so on.
We are a three car family. Two are garaged and the daily is kept on the drive. The daily generally is a 2-3 year old car kept for about 10 years.
Has anyone carried out an experiment with two identical cars to compare the difference in lifespan for a garaged car compared to one kept on the drive?
No experiments. However, my MX5 was on the drive for 17 years. Seemed fine. Moved house and finally it had a garage. But the mouse that decided to make it home for the winter did far more damage than the rain ever did! Obviously it needs to be correctly garaged, not closed up when it is wet and so on.
We are a three car family. Two are garaged and the daily is kept on the drive. The daily generally is a 2-3 year old car kept for about 10 years.
Has anyone carried out an experiment with two identical cars to compare the difference in lifespan for a garaged car compared to one kept on the drive?
Hippea said:
Garaging a car is infinitely better than not
I agree. There is the security aspect as well However, will the need for replacement batteries on EVs render them for the scrap heap before other parts become damaged by rust etc? Will there be any point in putting them in the garage?
I remember in my youth of the 1960-70s were scrapped at five years due to rust.
My Caterham lives in the garage, I don’t think I’d like to leave it outside all year.
The mustang lives on the drive, not tried but I don’t think it would even fit in the garage.
On security the other advantage of putting the car in the garage is that nobody can tell if your in or out.
The mustang lives on the drive, not tried but I don’t think it would even fit in the garage.
On security the other advantage of putting the car in the garage is that nobody can tell if your in or out.
Hippea said:
Garaging a car is infinitely better than not
Absolutely not, certainly not in a UK climate, hot & wet car put in airless garage to condensate away etc terrible, also uninsulated garages cars can condensate a lot with temperature changes & rust badly.In an airflow type pod with moving fans very different story also a barn type with good airflow.
iguana said:
Hippea said:
Garaging a car is infinitely better than not
Absolutely not, certainly not in a UK climate, hot & wet car put in airless garage to condensate away etc terrible, also uninsulated garages cars can condensate a lot with temperature changes & rust badly.In an airflow type pod with moving fans very different story also a barn type with good airflow.
Garaging is not all it’s meant to be.
Many are damp. Many are haven for rodents and insects.
Garages don’t benefit from airflow. So wind can’t dry a car if it’s garaged whilst wet.
Many bumps and scrapes happen when getting into/out of garage. LV insurance (I think) did research and said it was one of their most common claims. So, if you told them car was in garage, they raised your premium.
Garages are good in hot places as car paint doesn’t get damaged.
A car port is probably the best option.
Many are damp. Many are haven for rodents and insects.
Garages don’t benefit from airflow. So wind can’t dry a car if it’s garaged whilst wet.
Many bumps and scrapes happen when getting into/out of garage. LV insurance (I think) did research and said it was one of their most common claims. So, if you told them car was in garage, they raised your premium.
Garages are good in hot places as car paint doesn’t get damaged.
A car port is probably the best option.
Edited by Moodyman1 on Friday 25th April 20:21
Simple answer to garaging a wet car...leave it outside until it dries off.... then garage it.
Insurers will ask greater premiums for garaged cars because many are damaged driving in and out lol.
Depends on the age and spec of the car as to whether to garage or not. Ceramic brakes a plus if left outside as no rust. Steels soon deteriorate terminally especially with salt in the winter and the discs are often permanently corroded if left.
UV and birds
t/tree sap and cat damage and vandalism/theft all major issues if car left outside.
Insurers will ask greater premiums for garaged cars because many are damaged driving in and out lol.
Depends on the age and spec of the car as to whether to garage or not. Ceramic brakes a plus if left outside as no rust. Steels soon deteriorate terminally especially with salt in the winter and the discs are often permanently corroded if left.
UV and birds
t/tree sap and cat damage and vandalism/theft all major issues if car left outside.Interesting question. We have a Lexus that in it's time with us ( bought in 2011, when it was 7 years old ) has had what I'd call an initially relatively easy outdoor life in Southampton, but is now enduring the hardship of an outdoor life in the harsher climes of Newcastle, and has done since 2016. I doubt just being parked outside would cause much more harm, but I suspect the more salted roads up here have contributed to the deterioration of the sills in particular.
My van now lives in a garage ( see my thread entitled "Cars I've owned over the last 30 years, many and varied" for specific reasons why ), and my Evo MR2 and Porsche are also garaged, partly due to their inability to contend with inclement weather. I'm not keen on desirable cars having to live outdoors, although I accept that's possibly specific to my history of a poor upbringing and subsequent over valuing of material possessions. People in London seemingly have no choice in this matter, unless very fortunate.
My van now lives in a garage ( see my thread entitled "Cars I've owned over the last 30 years, many and varied" for specific reasons why ), and my Evo MR2 and Porsche are also garaged, partly due to their inability to contend with inclement weather. I'm not keen on desirable cars having to live outdoors, although I accept that's possibly specific to my history of a poor upbringing and subsequent over valuing of material possessions. People in London seemingly have no choice in this matter, unless very fortunate.
Moodyman1 said:
Garaging is not all it’s meant to be.
Many are damp. Many are haven for rodents and insects.
Garages don’t benefit from airflow. So wind can’t dry a car if it’s garaged whilst wet.
I have always been in the garage is better team and always left the door open to get airflow if the car went away wet.Many are damp. Many are haven for rodents and insects.
Garages don’t benefit from airflow. So wind can’t dry a car if it’s garaged whilst wet.
However, cars these days are made differently and seems to be better able to cope with being permanently outside.
My classics live in an uninsulated and unheated garage.
However, I have a large workshop fan, about 2 feet across on a timer that comes on every 3 hours for 3 hours.
The important thing is to shift air about.
My 67 Alfa lived outside for years. A decision to put it under an outdoor cover for a winter was a bad one. Better to just let the wind naturally circulate and drive it often
However, I have a large workshop fan, about 2 feet across on a timer that comes on every 3 hours for 3 hours.
The important thing is to shift air about.
My 67 Alfa lived outside for years. A decision to put it under an outdoor cover for a winter was a bad one. Better to just let the wind naturally circulate and drive it often
Moodyman1 said:
Garaging is not all it’s meant to be.
Many are damp. Many are haven for rodents and insects.
Garages don’t benefit from airflow. So wind can’t dry a car if it’s garaged whilst wet.
Many bumps and scrapes happen when getting into/out of garage. LV insurance (I think) did research and said it was one of their most common claims. So, if you told them car was in garage, they raised your premium.
Garages are good in hot places as car paint doesn’t get damaged.
A car port is probably the best option.
I was also told by someone in insurance that once a thief gets into your garage, and most are not that secure, they are effectively hidden from view whilst they break into your car. Many are damp. Many are haven for rodents and insects.
Garages don’t benefit from airflow. So wind can’t dry a car if it’s garaged whilst wet.
Many bumps and scrapes happen when getting into/out of garage. LV insurance (I think) did research and said it was one of their most common claims. So, if you told them car was in garage, they raised your premium.
Garages are good in hot places as car paint doesn’t get damaged.
A car port is probably the best option.
Edited by Moodyman1 on Friday 25th April 20:21
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