RE: The performance all-season tyre is here

RE: The performance all-season tyre is here

Tuesday 1st July

The performance all-season tyre is here

Kept your car buying sensible to avoid winter woes? Michelin has a smart new solution


Promised yourself something feisty or rear-driven for years, but worried it would be left stricken in winter? Michelin is here to help. A decade after launching its first summer tyre approved for winter use – the Michelin CrossClimate – the French firm’s engineers have cooked up a thrilling new evolution that puts performance cars front of mind. Meet the Michelin CrossClimate 3 Sport.

It represents a whole new benchmark in a corner of the tyre market that’s soared in popularity since the launch of the first CrossClimate back in 2015; the flexibility of what’s essentially an all-season summer tyre has proved too hard to resist for an increasing number of buyers. For those of us using our pride and joy 12 months a year without wishing to compromise on performance and agility, the CrossClimate 3 Sport offers the best of all worlds. Crucially without the expense and faff of switching between summer and winter tyres twice a year…

There’s a stock Michelin CrossClimate 3, too, but it’s the Sport which is truly exciting for folks like us. It’s specifically developed for more sporting cars, making it unique amongst the all-season tyre market. It’s primed and ready to meet the lofty demands of car enthusiasts who might previously have felt forgotten by the winter tyre market. Drivers of quick, powerful and focused machinery now have the option of year-round grip and, perhaps, a more fearless approach to ungritted roads come winter.

The Michelin CrossClimate 3 Sport will be available in 30 dimensions, rim sizes 18-21", the largest being 295/35 R21 107Y from 1 July 2025. It has been thoroughly developed to deliver the handling carmakers intended in both wet and dry conditions, with no compromise on its control and precision on wintry roads. It’s earned itself an A-rating for wet weather performance while its Three Peak Mountain Snowflake (3PMSF) designation is the ultimate certification of its winter capabilities. That’s increasingly crucial or those of us inclined to road trip through Europe, just one example of rising restrictions being within the French mountains beloved of ski trips, where Mud and Snow (M+S) tyres are no longer accepted in lieu of snow socks or chains.

Michelin hasn’t forgotten its motorsport heritage, either. The hybrid belt of the CrossClimate 3 Sport encompasses Aramid and Nylon for the ultimate conversion of steering inputs to the road, ensuring the feel and fidelity of a great performance car aren’t mercilessly traded in the pursuit of safe, secure winter traction. Meanwhile, the latest Michelin Thermal Adaptive Tread Compound 2.0 introduces a freshly updated generation of compound for a breakthrough in wet-weather performance. Which, let’s face it, are the conditions we face more than most others on British roads and racetracks.

The CrossClimate 3 is the latest chapter in Michelin’s all-season endeavours. In 2015, its team defied conventions by pairing the precision of a summer tyre with proficient winter capability. The ensuing demand proved Michelin’s pioneering spirit right and the CrossClimate introduced a simpler approach to winter safety for plenty of drivers. As the all-season market grew, so did Michelin’s ambition, and in 2021 the CrossClimate 2 shifted the goalposts further for drivers keen to maintain a consistently high level of performance all year round.

The all-season market has quadrupled in size since 2015 and the Michelin CrossClimate 3 Sport opens a whole new world of winter driving for those of us who value performance and precision as utmost priorities. It’s suitable whether your car uses combustion or electric power, and crucially whether it’s front, all or rear-wheel drive. It’s the optimum solution for drivers seeking a single, high-performance tyre for year-round use – making it time to shop for that sports car you’ve always dreamed about.


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rlw

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3,463 posts

252 months

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An innovative approach to a problem a lot of us share and, being Michelin, it will probably work very well but I can't help thinking that there is going to be an element of compromise somewhere. If the feedback is positive, I will certainly consider these next time tyres are required.

Tony1963

5,671 posts

177 months

Tuesday
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rlw said:
An innovative approach to a problem a lot of us share and, being Michelin, it will probably work very well but I can't help thinking that there is going to be an element of compromise somewhere. If the feedback is positive, I will certainly consider these next time tyres are required.
Worth two minutes of your time: https://www.evo.co.uk/reviews/207909/michelin-cros...

Defcon5

6,393 posts

206 months

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The AI advert article writer was definitely set to ‘Maximum Fawning’ mode for this one.

Haltamer

2,579 posts

95 months

Tuesday
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Very exciting to see this get to the UK simply for the benefit of the 'genre of tyre'

As I've opined in the past, a summer-like tread & construction with a cold weather / all season compound would in theory be the perfect combination for the Southern UK where heavy snow is infrequent but freezing / near freezing conditions are not.

It's a shame they didn't do the full US Style Pilot Sport 4AS, But understandable given the big market benefits of 3PMSF in the EU that would likely be unattainable without the tread redesign.


tripleB

37 posts

103 months

Tuesday
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I’ll be honest I’d always wished my current summer Pilot Sport 5s and winter Cross Climates would one day have a secret love child so I didn’t have to swap wheels when the weather gets bad…

Honeywell

1,565 posts

113 months

Tuesday
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I've recently put four Continental AllSeasonContact 2tyres on my Tesla Model3 AWD with performance boost (0-60 3.7s). They came first in a recent Wet Braking tests against other all seasons.




Previously the car was on OEM Michelin Pilot Sport 4's. Since then we've had a June heatwave! Thing is it's my daily and I work shifts all winter putting me on roads at 4am where I'm the first one down them and the gritters may not have been yet. I also find that in modern cars I never run out of dry grip or dry braking performance. You'd have to be driving very hard on the public road to be near the dry limits on any premium tyre.


The bottom clenching sound of the ABS kicking in is 99% of the time for me in the wet and/or on a miserable cold November night. Hence the All Seasons for my daily since Michelin launched the original CrossClimate in 2015.

So far the Continentals have been brilliant in the dry heat. No squealing during hard Cornering like the first gen Michelins used to do. I detect no loss of hot dry traction either. If I were in charge I'd remove the VAT on All Season tyres and promote their uptake. It would do far more for road safety than silly 20mph speed limits and ADAS.

The road chaos we get when a cm of snow falls would mostly be a thing of the past. There would be fewer collisions generally. Insurance costs would decrease for everyone. It's socially responsible.

When was the last time you experienced the ABS pulsing the pedal in the dry in a modern car?

HarryW

15,534 posts

284 months

Tuesday
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This guy does the best tyre reviews…
https://youtu.be/n-Y4AIp2WFU?si=itSWRqXztKg3EFfC

MrBurt

139 posts

161 months

Tuesday
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Honeywell said:
I've recently put four Continental AllSeasonContact 2tyres on my Tesla Model3 AWD with performance boost (0-60 3.7s). They came first in a recent Wet Braking tests against other all seasons.




Previously the car was on OEM Michelin Pilot Sport 4's. Since then we've had a June heatwave! Thing is it's my daily and I work shifts all winter putting me on roads at 4am where I'm the first one down them and the gritters may not have been yet. I also find that in modern cars I never run out of dry grip or dry braking performance. You'd have to be driving very hard on the public road to be near the dry limits on any premium tyre.


The bottom clenching sound of the ABS kicking in is 99% of the time for me in the wet and/or on a miserable cold November night. Hence the All Seasons for my daily since Michelin launched the original CrossClimate in 2015.

So far the Continentals have been brilliant in the dry heat. No squealing during hard Cornering like the first gen Michelins used to do. I detect no loss of hot dry traction either. If I were in charge I'd remove the VAT on All Season tyres and promote their uptake. It would do far more for road safety than silly 20mph speed limits and ADAS.

The road chaos we get when a cm of snow falls would mostly be a thing of the past. There would be fewer collisions generally. Insurance costs would decrease for everyone. It's socially responsible.

When was the last time you experienced the ABS pulsing the pedal in the dry in a modern car?
Interesting post, particularly referencing performance car behaviour in the dry with all season.
The P Zeros on my M3 Touring will need changing in the Autumn and I am tempted to go all season rather than the default P4S that I was thinking of changing too.
The hot and dry weather in rural Shropshire will soon be replaced by wet and damp.

Pauly308

3 posts

5 months

Tuesday
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I have previously run all season tyres & was shocked at how good they were in the snow. Sadly the soft compound wore out much sooner than normal tyres & also wore in a wave pattern my mechanic had never seen it before. Went back to summers on the next change as I couldn’t get a repeat at the time, never had the wear pattern repeat so conclude I was asking too much of them.
Next car I bought an extra set of wheels with Michelin winters, ran them for 6 years, brilliant-but you lose all the grip when you get a sudden warm spell.
Conclusion, there is no such thing as a performance all season tyre, only marketing bs.

tnp

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2 months

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Starting at 18" - am oot. Then again, I'd never been in, all season is always a compromise, and neither of my cars is the kind of car you'd compromise the tyres for convenience.
Living happily with Bridgestone LM005 in Winter, Summer is MPS4S on the BRZ, Zeknova RS 606 on the STI.

Edited by tnp on Tuesday 1st July 11:07

Haltamer

2,579 posts

95 months

Tuesday
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Honeywell said:
When was the last time you experienced the ABS pulsing the pedal in the dry in a modern car?
Very astute, and matches my own observations re. All seasons - 10% Loss of hot dry grip gives 80% extra cold / dry / snowy grip, which is an 80% improvement Ny-50% of the time biggrin

There's some trade off in sharpness of handling (At the moment - These may change that!) which is the primary reason I bother running summers at this point - It's preference too, though, as the slightly more traditional soft feedback & breakaway can make for a pleasurable experience, allowing you to enjoy the chassis rather than the modern take of ultimate grip and directness - right up to the moment you break away and find yourself in the hedge.

Joe M

754 posts

260 months

Tuesday
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1 month after putting new tyres on my X5. Thanks michelin.

CG2020UK

2,598 posts

55 months

Tuesday
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I’m currently running the Michelin Cross Climate 2s on my Tesla and they are brilliant. I’ve drove past many a naive SUV driver who has slid off or become stuck. Also had them in my wife’s Peugeot 208 GTI and was seriously impressive.

Admittedly don’t think they stop or hook up as well in the snow and ice or as Michelin Pilot Alpines I had for my M2.

Look forward to some real world review of these!

rlw

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Tony1963 said:
Thanks - interesting read. I think I'll try them on someone else's car first. More noise is the biggest negative for me.

mmm-five

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299 months

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Jon's latest comparison video now available...

Sporky

8,407 posts

79 months

Tuesday
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Both my cars have 17s, so these are no use to me. Which is a shame, 'cos I'm about to need to change the CrossClimate 2s on one of them.

Are 17s really that small now? Neither car is a decade old yet.

Sheepshanks

37,032 posts

134 months

Tuesday
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Honeywell said:
If I were in charge I'd remove the VAT on All Season tyres and promote their uptake. It would do far more for road safety than silly 20mph speed limits and ADAS.
If I was in charge I'd make them standard fit on new cars. Certainly, at least, "everyday" cars and SUVs.

Honeywell said:
The road chaos we get when a cm of snow falls would mostly be a thing of the past. There would be fewer collisions generally. Insurance costs would decrease for everyone. It's socially responsible.
I'm less sure about that. There's a danger people would become over-confident. My wife's Tiguan on winter tyres with 4Motion can take off in snow like it's on dry tarmac. Stopping is a different matter altogether - fine if you can roll to a halt but touch the brakes and ABS is going. It wasn't too clever on bends either - if you weren't super-cautions the car just drifted sideways.

GreatScott2016

1,862 posts

103 months

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Sporky said:
Both my cars have 17s, so these are no use to me. Which is a shame, 'cos I'm about to need to change the CrossClimate 2s on one of them.

Are 17s really that small now? Neither car is a decade old yet.
Depends on the car, but I suggest not. Plenty of cars these days are on cartoonishly large rims smile I recall my early Imprezas and Evos being on 17s and all was fine then.

MOOSECORTINA

227 posts

94 months

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I have fitted Pirelli all season to my S5, works really well.

MC Bodge

24,753 posts

190 months

Yesterday (07:27)
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Honeywell said:
If I were in charge I'd remove the VAT on All Season tyres and promote their uptake. It would do far more for road safety than silly 20mph speed limits and ADAS.

The road chaos we get when a cm of snow falls would mostly be a thing of the past. There would be fewer collisions generally. Insurance costs would decrease for everyone. It's socially responsible.

When was the last time you experienced the ABS pulsing the pedal in the dry in a modern car?
This is a very good point.

Reasonable all-seasons are ideal for cars of typical use patterns in the UK.

Drivers do need educating and encouraging. Large numbers just buy the cheapest tyres.



Edited by MC Bodge on Wednesday 2nd July 07:33