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PAULS S

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29 posts

161 months

Yesterday (09:02)
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After not been started for a few years my TVR S1 is reluctant to start.
I have checked all fuses which seem fine, the car turns over well and all the electrics are working lights, horn wipers etc, i have power up to the coil but no ignition lights ?
Anybody else had this problem ?
Thanks
Paul.

bimsb6

8,426 posts

236 months

Yesterday (09:05)
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Needs fresh fuel .

PAULS S

Original Poster:

29 posts

161 months

Yesterday (09:14)
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Thanks done that i am sure it is a electric fault as no lights on dashboard ?

Sebring440

2,719 posts

111 months

Yesterday (09:17)
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PAULS S said:
Thanks done that i am sure it is a electric fault as no lights on dashboard ?
You didn't mention that in your original post, where you said all the electrics are working.

You'll have to get someone with the correct diagnostic equipment to look at it and fix it for you.


PAULS S

Original Poster:

29 posts

161 months

Yesterday (09:28)
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Oh sorry getting ahead of my self,
after reading a few articles it seems it could be the pink ignition relay ? if it is that would i still get power to the coil ?
Thanks

stevieturbo

17,764 posts

262 months

Yesterday (10:03)
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PAULS S said:
After not been started for a few years my TVR S1 is reluctant to start.
I have checked all fuses which seem fine, the car turns over well and all the electrics are working lights, horn wipers etc, i have power up to the coil but no ignition lights ?
Anybody else had this problem ?
Thanks
Paul.
Basics, you say it cranks well.

You say some lights appear missing, which one or ones specifically ? Fuses ? Mice nibbling anywhere ?

Have you checked for fuel delivery ?

Have you checked for spark ?



GreenV8S

30,848 posts

299 months

Yesterday (12:19)
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PAULS S said:
my TVR S1 is reluctant to start.
Reluctant to start is usually used to mean that the engine has to be cranked a lot before it will start. Is it eventually starting? Is it firing at all? All ignition related lights being off I'd have thought meant no fuel or ignition at all. Is the fuel pump running? Does the car have an alarm/immobiliser fitted? Is it disarming in the usual way?

hersh

388 posts

82 months

Yesterday (13:33)
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Old fashion way
Take out a spark plug, does it smell of petrol?
Give it a clean and push it back into the HD lead (while it's out of the engine) crank the engine and see if there is a spark

PAULS S

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29 posts

161 months

Yesterday (14:49)
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Hi all
Yes i have spark at the plugs and i can smell petrol
I have undone the fuel pipe to the filter and turned on the ignition should fuel be pumping out as it has a electric fuel pump as it doesn't ?
Thanks
Paul.

GreenV8S

30,848 posts

299 months

Yesterday (15:05)
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Disconnecting a high pressure fuel hose while the pump is running can be dangerous because it can spray a lot of petrol at high pressure. It only takes a tiny spark to set that vapour on fire.

Do you hear the pump run when you turn the ignition on? It would normally run for about a second when you turn the ignition on, then run again while you're cranking the engine.

When you say you smell petrol, do you mean the plugs are wet with petrol?

PAULS S

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29 posts

161 months

Yesterday (15:17)
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The fuel filter is full but could not hear the pump, will the fuel come out of the fuel pipe when disconnected ?
Here is a good one , i have home start recovery but they will not come out as it does not have a MOT: i had a row with them as i can not get it a MOT as i can not drive it there which is booked for tomorrow , still would not help

GreenV8S

30,848 posts

299 months

Yesterday (17:11)
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PAULS S said:
could not hear the pump
I assume you know what the pump normally sounds like when you switch the ignition on. If you don't hear that, you have a seized pump or an electrical problem. You can easily test for an electrical problem by putting a volt meter or test lamp across the pump terminals and switching the ignition on.

I wouldn't expect any ordinary home start type service to deal with problems where a car developed a fault while laid up. There would be a huge liability for doing that.

If this is looking beyond your skill set, you could consider getting your car recovered to your favorite local TVR specialists. Obviously there will be a cost to that, but it isn't especially expensive.

PAULS S

Original Poster:

29 posts

161 months

Yesterday (18:59)
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Hi thanks.

After further investigation i have no power to the pump relay or fuses any ideas or do i need a auto electrician ?

It runs with a quick squirt of easy start.

GreenV8S

30,848 posts

299 months

Yesterday (21:53)
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PAULS S said:
any ideas or do i need a auto electrician?
It seems your car has an electrical fault. Do you feel willing and able to fix it? It's not particularly complicated, but would require basic electrical skills and tools.

PAULS S

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29 posts

161 months

Yesterday (22:05)
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Yes i think i can it is just knowing where to start.

I have ordered a fuel pump relay ford 5 pin 68125 and a Engine run sensor/relay which is located below the fuses a 4 pin ford 68125

Any other ideas ?

Thanks.

GreenV8S

30,848 posts

299 months

Yesterday (22:34)
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PAULS S said:
Any other ideas ?
Check whether you're getting unswitched 12V to the ignition switch and ignition switched 12V out of it. Do you still have the dreaded yellow connector in the steering column?

stevieturbo

17,764 posts

262 months

PAULS S said:
Hi thanks.

After further investigation i have no power to the pump relay or fuses any ideas or do i need a auto electrician ?

It runs with a quick squirt of easy start.
Did you disconnect anything previously as a anti-theft and forgot about it ?

Or again, laid up for a few years, mice can nibble. Or a wire maybe just broken somewhere.

Huzzah

28,032 posts

198 months

Try a jump wire to prove/disprove your findings.

Tracing a fault use a meter and test light, start at the fuse then work upstream or downstream.
A wiring diagram and insulation piercing probe are useful too.

Don't just rely on just the meter, a wire hanging on by a couple of strands will show 12v but not pass enough current.