Diamond cut alloys what s fair ?
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Hi all,
I recently purchased a set of wheels from a guy near Warwick who seemed to specialise in Aston Martin wheels.
He knew the wheels couldn’t be diamond cut as intended for these wheels but decided not to tell me.
Last year I sold my old Range Rover alloys and told the buyer they couldn’t be diamond cut again but wonder if I needed to now after this experience.
With the majority of alloys today being diamond cut, should a seller be upfront if they know they can’t be re cut or not ?
I recently purchased a set of wheels from a guy near Warwick who seemed to specialise in Aston Martin wheels.
He knew the wheels couldn’t be diamond cut as intended for these wheels but decided not to tell me.
Last year I sold my old Range Rover alloys and told the buyer they couldn’t be diamond cut again but wonder if I needed to now after this experience.
With the majority of alloys today being diamond cut, should a seller be upfront if they know they can’t be re cut or not ?
Nick-n1cz7 said:
Hi all,
I recently purchased a set of wheels from a guy near Warwick who seemed to specialise in Aston Martin wheels.
He knew the wheels couldn t be diamond cut as intended for these wheels but decided not to tell me.
Last year I sold my old Range Rover alloys and told the buyer they couldn t be diamond cut again but wonder if I needed to now after this experience.
With the majority of alloys today being diamond cut, should a seller be upfront if they know they can t be re cut or not ?
Did they need refurbing, and how might he have known if they could or could not be done?I recently purchased a set of wheels from a guy near Warwick who seemed to specialise in Aston Martin wheels.
He knew the wheels couldn t be diamond cut as intended for these wheels but decided not to tell me.
Last year I sold my old Range Rover alloys and told the buyer they couldn t be diamond cut again but wonder if I needed to now after this experience.
With the majority of alloys today being diamond cut, should a seller be upfront if they know they can t be re cut or not ?
TBH, I hate DC wheels. They almost inevitably get nicks and then bubble.
Pincher said:
Probably been refurbed a couple of times before - they can only be done a certain number of times I think?
It depends on the wheel & design, basically it comes down to how much meat is on the wheel 3-4 refurbs is the norm but on newer (especially ev's they seem to have less metal on them so it's 1-2) wheels they have less meat.My Range Rover has silly 22s and they have been done a few times, they need doing again but I will just have to go powder coat silver now.
I hate DC, whenever I see a new car with them I think yeah, they look fantastic now but they will peel and have a limited life
But to answer your question, if you know that diamond are an issue from previous experience isn’t that a question you ask of a seller, an assumption you can make and ask for detailed pictures.
You can’t know that the seller knew or not.
I hate DC, whenever I see a new car with them I think yeah, they look fantastic now but they will peel and have a limited life
But to answer your question, if you know that diamond are an issue from previous experience isn’t that a question you ask of a seller, an assumption you can make and ask for detailed pictures.
You can’t know that the seller knew or not.
Im amazed Diamond Cut has hung around as a thing. I vividly remember absolutely stacks of "Kiwi" style Diamond Turned alloys (this is the era of the X300 XJ) going back to the factory under warranty in the late 90s. I think if I recall correctly, Jaguar gave up on DT and replaced customer wheels with the traditional satin finish.
Edited by Vsix and Vtec on Wednesday 23 July 20:52
Wheel refurbisher here, 26 yrs in the game.
Different wheels have more or less “Meat” to machine off.
Volvo cast their alloys really well, pretty much one cut, and one cut only if you’ve made a good job of hitting the kerb.
Japanese wheels however, 4-6 cuts if you’re lucky.
Also depends how good the CNC guy is, my lad can alter the software and put a radius on the lip, therefore only needing to maybe do one pass across the whole face, but still able to remove nasty damage from the wheel edge.
Different wheels have more or less “Meat” to machine off.
Volvo cast their alloys really well, pretty much one cut, and one cut only if you’ve made a good job of hitting the kerb.
Japanese wheels however, 4-6 cuts if you’re lucky.
Also depends how good the CNC guy is, my lad can alter the software and put a radius on the lip, therefore only needing to maybe do one pass across the whole face, but still able to remove nasty damage from the wheel edge.
Sheepshanks said:
mikeiow said:
TBH, I hate DC wheels. They almost inevitably get nicks and then bubble.
FYI, as I know you have a Kona with DC wheels - Hyundai have added refurbed wheels as a service item!Our Kona wheels are fine (under a year old)….my XC60 summer wheels, now almost 11, are yucky!
Nick-n1cz7 said:
I recently purchased a set of wheels from a guy near Warwick who seemed to specialise in Aston Martin wheels.
He knew the wheels couldn t be diamond cut as intended for these wheels but decided not to tell me.
He knew the wheels couldn t be diamond cut as intended for these wheels but decided not to tell me.
Which - Consumer Rights Act 2015 said:
Fit for purpose: The goods should be fit for the purpose they are supplied for, as well as any specific purpose you made known to the retailer before you agreed to buy the goods.
https://www.which.co.uk/consumer-rights/regulation/consumer-rights-act-aKJYx8n5KiSlSo if you contact a businessperson and say "I'd like to buy a set of wheels to get diamond cut and put on my Aston", and they sell you a set of wheels, then those wheels need to (a) fit an Aston and (b) be capable of being diamond cut.
If not then I believe you can (within a reasonable period) return them for a full refund.
If however you hadn't specifically stated your intention to get them diamond cut before sale, then that wouldn't apply, you're just buying "wheels" and if they are wheels, they are fit for purpose.
Nick-n1cz7 said:
Last year I sold my old Range Rover alloys and told the buyer they couldn t be diamond cut again but wonder if I needed to now after this experience.
With the majority of alloys today being diamond cut, should a seller be upfront if they know they can t be re cut or not ?
this is a different situation, (a) it's a private sale I assume and (b) the seller hasn't said they want to re-cut them, they might be happy as-is or intend to powdercoat.With the majority of alloys today being diamond cut, should a seller be upfront if they know they can t be re cut or not ?
So no, it's not a general piece of information I'd expect to receive or provide as a buyer or seller unless the one or other specifically mentions or asks.
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