Who said the 996 wasn't a proper 911?
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Having experienced a couple of beautifully executed pirouettes at Friday's Autocross event (sprints to you), I can confirm that the engine is indeed still at the rear of the car.
Hugely frustrating day. 4 runs, of which the first two were at noddy pace to scout the circuit, and the final 2 were in retrospect somewhat over-exuberant, and resulted in tyre-smoking tankslappers followed by a graceful pas de deux between Porker and cones. As a result, I would have been better off had I turned up in a 1973 Datsun.
Would appreciate some tips (although I am looking for some driver training in the next few months), particularly dealing with slaloms at highish revs in second, so I guess around 40-50mph or so.
I had previously perfected the point and squirt method in a Lancia Integrale - that is lift off as you turn in to the first cone, let the weight transfer, then get back on the gas and turn hard the opposite way, lift off again, weight transfers etc. Easy peasy. Not so with a 911 for the obvious reason.
I can understand that the heavy rear weight can be useful in changing direction between two opposite direction bends (a zig-zag) which are not too close together, but a slalom seems a lot trickier to master.
What method would you chaps suggest?
Hugely frustrating day. 4 runs, of which the first two were at noddy pace to scout the circuit, and the final 2 were in retrospect somewhat over-exuberant, and resulted in tyre-smoking tankslappers followed by a graceful pas de deux between Porker and cones. As a result, I would have been better off had I turned up in a 1973 Datsun.
Would appreciate some tips (although I am looking for some driver training in the next few months), particularly dealing with slaloms at highish revs in second, so I guess around 40-50mph or so.
I had previously perfected the point and squirt method in a Lancia Integrale - that is lift off as you turn in to the first cone, let the weight transfer, then get back on the gas and turn hard the opposite way, lift off again, weight transfers etc. Easy peasy. Not so with a 911 for the obvious reason.
I can understand that the heavy rear weight can be useful in changing direction between two opposite direction bends (a zig-zag) which are not too close together, but a slalom seems a lot trickier to master.
What method would you chaps suggest?
Never driven a 911 yet, although I have read a little golden rule with them on a few occasions. That being to brake on the straights only, turn into the apex at a sensible speed, then get on the power earlier than you might in a normal car. Most people seem to agree that braking and cornering in a 911 don't mix all that well. Ninemeister is your man to ask tho.
To ne honest not really done a slalom in a 911 or 996..
Had both cars just not slalomed.If it is C4 just boot it and turn....My experience is more with 2wd 911.I think I would be very careful not to try to do anything aggressive with the steering wheel at the point the weight balance moves the weight to the back of the car.
Hard to explain but smoothness would be the key and not trying to boot it and throw the steering around too much.
I quite fancy giving it a go though.
Tyre pressures would be critical for a smooth time with this event.Have fun practising>
>> Edited by clubsport on Sunday 1st June 15:53
Had both cars just not slalomed.If it is C4 just boot it and turn....My experience is more with 2wd 911.I think I would be very careful not to try to do anything aggressive with the steering wheel at the point the weight balance moves the weight to the back of the car.
Hard to explain but smoothness would be the key and not trying to boot it and throw the steering around too much.
I quite fancy giving it a go though.
Tyre pressures would be critical for a smooth time with this event.Have fun practising>
>> Edited by clubsport on Sunday 1st June 15:53
hi, you asked for some tips and gave a good descrption of your current technique on a cone based 'slalom' course. Here is my take on it.
The only inputs are steering and accelerator, no use of brake pedal at all until you hit the end of the run and then only when travelling in a straight line. As you draw level with a cone,say its to your right, hopefully not too far right (wide) of it, with a 'steady' accelerator pressure being held, turn in to the right to go round cone and immediately- as soon as poss after you move that steering wheel- push on the accelerator...this gets some squat on the back and plenty of push into the turn ,having turned you will now be taking off the wheel at same time backing off pedal ( not too much) back to steady to avoid speeding up, preparing to turn in left as you approach the next cone on your left, again dig into that accelerator just after you move the wheel...
What you want is a rhythm and speed that matches the spacing of the cones. Start slow on first run then pick up speed on subsequent runs. If you push on the pedal before you turn the wheel then front will be light and you get understeer, if you lift off the pedal in a turn then back will be light and you get oversteer ...to be avoided.HTH
The only inputs are steering and accelerator, no use of brake pedal at all until you hit the end of the run and then only when travelling in a straight line. As you draw level with a cone,say its to your right, hopefully not too far right (wide) of it, with a 'steady' accelerator pressure being held, turn in to the right to go round cone and immediately- as soon as poss after you move that steering wheel- push on the accelerator...this gets some squat on the back and plenty of push into the turn ,having turned you will now be taking off the wheel at same time backing off pedal ( not too much) back to steady to avoid speeding up, preparing to turn in left as you approach the next cone on your left, again dig into that accelerator just after you move the wheel...
What you want is a rhythm and speed that matches the spacing of the cones. Start slow on first run then pick up speed on subsequent runs. If you push on the pedal before you turn the wheel then front will be light and you get understeer, if you lift off the pedal in a turn then back will be light and you get oversteer ...to be avoided.HTH
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