Domain name confusion

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Z064life

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1,926 posts

249 months

Monday 20th August 2007
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Here's the story:

I made a site for a client using ASP.NET, I've uploaded the files and databases (one is for ASP.NET membership and the other for the site).

My client brought a domain from order.ultimahosts.net, with a .co.uk extension. The host is good for ASP.NET applications, but has not supported me with the domain issue.

The thing is, someone at the company said "We don't register the domain name for you so you will need to do this via a domain register or you can use our service here" http://order.ultimahosts.net/ I brought hosting from ultimahosts.eu

What is the registration of a domain? The process of choosing the domain or is it also getting it to point to the site?

Also, they said that they do not support the transfer of a domain with a .uk extension yet their own site lets me buy a domain with a .co.uk extension. :S I'm told that the transfer of a domain is to change registrars but how can I change registrars from within the same company? :S

My friend runs a hosting business and says that to set the domain up, I have to paste the nameserver definitons from the hosting control panel to the control panel of the domain registrar which I did yesterday. He said this takes up to 48 hours and so far right now it's been 24 hours and the site does not appear. Why is there a lag time? What does it mean when the site does not resolve? I've set the settings of the site to point to wwwroot and then look for the default.aspx document, which is the homepage.

Edited by Z064life on Monday 20th August 22:49

Z064life

Original Poster:

1,926 posts

249 months

Monday 20th August 2007
quotequote all
Here's the story:

I made a site for a client using ASP.NET, I've uploaded the files and databases (one is for ASP.NET membership and the other for the site).

My client brought a domain from order.ultimahosts.net, with a .co.uk extension. The host is good for ASP.NET applications, but has not supported me with the domain issue.

The thing is, someone at the company said "We don't register the domain name for you so you will need to do this via a domain register or you can use our service here" http://order.ultimahosts.net/ I brought hosting from ultimahosts.eu

What is the registration of a domain? The process of choosing the domain or is it also getting it to point to the site?

Also, they said that they do not support the transfer of a domain with a .uk extension yet their own site lets me buy a domain with a .co.uk extension. :S I'm told that the transfer of a domain is to change registrars but how can I change registrars from within the same company? :S

My friend runs a hosting business and says that to set the domain up, I have to paste the nameserver definitons from the hosting control panel to the control panel of the domain registrar which I did yesterday. He said this takes up to 48 hours and so far right now it's been 24 hours and the site does not appear. Why is there a lag time? What does it mean when the site does not resolve? I've set the settings of the site to point to wwwroot and then look for the default.aspx document, which is the homepage.

Edited by Z064life on Monday 20th August 23:45

mattley

3,024 posts

223 months

Monday 20th August 2007
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Registration is simply that, registering the domain name.

The logical extention to having a domain is administration of that domain, which involves pointing the relevent bits to the relevent servers.


I don't know why you've been asked to move your name servers IMO NS should always be registrant, if they can't do it, register elsewhere. If you're deploying .NET apps online, you really should read up on this.

In the meantime www.dnsreport.com will tell you what the real world thinks is going on.

cottonfoo

6,016 posts

211 months

Monday 20th August 2007
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The reason you have to wait is because the time-to-live will need to time out before information is re-fetched from an authorative nameserver, nameservers will cache the looked-up records for the time specified in the 'ttl' field of a record.

You can get around the long wait by changing the ttl to a few hours a couple of days before you do the switch, then setting it back once it's propogated.

I can't see any reason why they cannot redelegate (shift domain control) between themselves, anyone can do it between anywhere. Some companies may not like to redelegate because they lose control and hence can't charge for changes, but that's just a bit arsey of them.