The Irish Times is murdering the English language!

[Hammerwerfer]

Since when does one call an actress an "actor"?

This is the seconde time I have seen an obituary for an "actor" only to read on to find out that the deceased was a female.

[Gemsbok1000]

Actresses very often refer to themselves as actors....particularly the more 'serious' ones.

[esselte]

Hammerwerfer said:

Since when does one call an actress an "actor"?

This is the seconde time I have seen an obituary for an "actor" only to read on to find out that the deceased was a female.

Don't see the problem,a female doctor isn't a doctress....

[Bushmaster]

I suppose you think flight attendants should be called 'air hostesses' ?

[Kinky]

It's not anything to do with the IT.

It's equality, and that's just how it is these days.

Dame Judy, Helen Mirren, Sheila Hancock, etc, etc - they call themselves actors - so I guess they're murdering the language too.

[Bushmaster]

Hammerwerfer said:

Since when does one call an actress an "actor"?

This is the seconde time I have seen an obituary for an "actor" only to read on to find out that the deceased was a female.

This might be a problem in adult film recruitment:

Director: "OK Hammerwerfer, you tied good to that bed? Right, bring out the actors".

[Hammerwerfer]

We use gender in a few instances in English, and I think we should retain as much as possible.

If ther is a gender specific description of a profession, I think it should be kept. Sure, we have female doctors, and male nurses, but the language loses something when we go all PC aqnd try to eliminate the word "actress".

Ther Germans are very attached to gender, and it doesn't seem to do them any harm.

[oilandwater]

The term 'actress' was once broadly used to describe a prostitute. So the term actor sounds more professional, and adopted so by females. It is a personal choice, but actor sounds more business like. hth

[esselte]

Hammerwerfer said:

We use gender in a few instances in English, and I think we should retain as much as possible.

If ther is a gender specific description of a profession, I think it should be kept. Sure, we have female doctors, and male nurses, but the language loses something when we go all PC aqnd try to eliminate the word "actress".

Ther Germans are very attached to gender, and it doesn't seem to do them any harm.

I think "actor" was used before "actress" for women....in fact I think they may all have been "players" at one point...

Edited by esselte on Monday 9th March 21:22

[mybrainhurts]

Hammerwerfer said:

This is the seconde time

Was it as good as the firste time...?

[Hammerwerfer]

mybrainhurts said:

Hammerwerfer said:

This is the seconde time

Was it as good as the firste time...?

Olde Englishe

[Swilly]

Hammerwerfer said:

Ther Germans are very attached to gender, and it doesn't seem to do them any harm.

Ze germans.... those two-world-war-starting genocidal maniacs you mean ?!

[BigLepton]

Bushmaster said:

I suppose you think flight attendants should be called 'air hostesses' ?

No, trolley-dollies is far better.

[mybrainhurts]

Hammerwerfer said:

mybrainhurts said:

Hammerwerfer said:

This is the seconde time

Was it as good as the firste time...?

Olde Englishe

Who're you calling Olde...?

I have shoes I can throw...

[tenohfive]

Bushmaster said:

I suppose you think flight attendants should be called 'air hostesses' ?

No, I think, 'Doris' is his preferred term.

[Mark-C]

As a general observation\query ... who really gives a fk?

[Parrot of Doom]

Hammerwerfer said:

Since when does one call an actress an "actor"?

This is the seconde time I have seen an obituary for an "actor" only to read on to find out that the deceased was a female.

The Irish Times would therefore appear to be following the same rationale as that used by the Oxford English Dictionary.

kthxbye.

[pits]

Depends wether she was an actor or an actor, as I see two types of actor. You have the actors in films and tv and then you have actor's, said "ac-taw" which I class as a proffesional actor usually in plays etc.

Not sure why your worried about the Irish murdering the English language, America have been doing it fo years, so has most people under 20 with there text speak and there making up of new words shenanigans

[Bushmaster]

pits said:

Depends wether she was an actor or an actor, as I see two types of actor. You have the actors in films and tv and then you have actor's, said "ac-taw" which I class as a proffesional actor usually in plays etc.

Not sure why your worried about the Irish murdering the English language, America have been doing it fo years, so has most people under 20 with there text speak and there making up of new words shenanigans

Is someone able to translate this into English please? Unless it is meant as a joke?

Edited by Bushmaster on Tuesday 10th March 02:43

[branflakes]

Hammerwerfer said:

Since when does one call an actress an "actor"?

This is the seconde time I have seen an obituary for an "actor" only to read on to find out that the deceased was a female.

It's a good job you've never seen a Welsh ambulance...