Any one else a PPL?
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I just wondered in the new world order of the Pie & Piston, whether there are any fellow PPL's on here?
As a Pistonheads forum surely there must be, if so, what do you fly? Where do you fly from and how often do you get up?
Personally I have a share in an Arrow, fly from White Waltham and don't get up as often as I would like or should.
Over to you.....
As a Pistonheads forum surely there must be, if so, what do you fly? Where do you fly from and how often do you get up?
Personally I have a share in an Arrow, fly from White Waltham and don't get up as often as I would like or should.
Over to you.....
edfrp said:
Currently PA-15 and Cap 10 from a farmstrip in Wiltshire - my home base for 18 years now.
where in Wilts? Citabria mostly on a private strip in Wilts. Just renewed my PPL after it expired 2 years back, wont let it lapse again i dont think, forgot how much fun flying a light aircraft is!
edfrp said:
El Capitano said:
edfrp said:
Currently PA-15 and Cap 10 from a farmstrip in Wiltshire - my home base for 18 years now.
where in Wilts? its a small private strip south of Devizes, in Urchfont, more or less the only aircraft that uses it though!
Er... speakersee de english? The rest of us pistonheaders haven't got a clue what any of you are talking about? (before you flame me, I should add my Dad flies 747-400 cargo planes, and we have a little 2 seater thing called a Prostar PT2C - homebuilt aircraft which is the only one in the UK)
I'm working towards my PPL (got all my Dad's books at my place) and fly the Prostar all the time, but talking in codes the entire time really puts me off!
I'm working towards my PPL (got all my Dad's books at my place) and fly the Prostar all the time, but talking in codes the entire time really puts me off!
eharding said:
Shares in G-MAXG and G-YAKH, also at Waltham.
Which Arrow?
That's just showing off!!!! I'm very jealousWhich Arrow?
Mine is G-BNEE, very boring compared to your two (maybe you should post some pictures to show everyone else)
I did the AOPA Aeros course as Kemble a couple of years ago - amazing experience and something I should have really kept up. Those guys can really fly, Greeners took me up in the Extra and did a display - let's just say he pulled some serious negative G
ETA - just seen your link with the pics - awesome!
Edited by flyingjase on Friday 24th April 16:13
[quote=Ewan S]Er... speakersee de english? The rest of us pistonheaders haven't got a clue what any of you are talking about? [quote]
What 'codes' are you after mate?
stuff like 'G-YAKH' are just registrations of aircraft, cant really see too much that is confusing?
(although the more you fly, the more little abbreviations you will find yourself using when talking about planes!)
edit. the other stuff like C-182 etc are just aircraft types, eg. cessena 182....
What 'codes' are you after mate?
stuff like 'G-YAKH' are just registrations of aircraft, cant really see too much that is confusing?
(although the more you fly, the more little abbreviations you will find yourself using when talking about planes!)
edit. the other stuff like C-182 etc are just aircraft types, eg. cessena 182....
Edited by El Capitano on Friday 24th April 17:15
flyingjase said:
Mine is G-BNEE
We have a mutual friend who has a share in EE and KH - in fact, EE will be partaking in the Mull mass-flyout next weekend, routing Wick via Glenforsa. KH and the other standard fuel-fit 52s will be 3 stopping - at least - planning WW - Wolverhampton - Carlisle - Oban - Glenforsa - Food! Most of the 52s will be stopping at least twice, apart from the smug geezers in JK, freshly fitted with long-range tanks. At the last count, 14 aircraft making the trip. Talking of which - where's IforB? - are you still going to be in the vicinity? - other side of Scotland, obviously, but standing invitation for Yak hooning and food remains.
I'm keen on gaining my NPPL once I return from working in the Middle East. Have looked into the costs and around £6000-6500 should get me my licence. A share in an aircraft will likely cost around £4000-£4500 (say 1/4 share in a C150/C152 or similar) at my local airfield. My biggest worry is spending over 10K and then losing interest or not being to fly on a regular basis. I should be able to afford the cost of the training and the aircraft share but I'm not sure I can justify the outlay given that i'll pribably only fly 2 hours a month due to other commitments.
Ecosseven said:
I'm keen on gaining my NPPL once I return from working in the Middle East. Have looked into the costs and around £6000-6500 should get me my licence. A share in an aircraft will likely cost around £4000-£4500 (say 1/4 share in a C150/C152 or similar) at my local airfield. My biggest worry is spending over 10K and then losing interest or not being to fly on a regular basis. I should be able to afford the cost of the training and the aircraft share but I'm not sure I can justify the outlay given that i'll pribably only fly 2 hours a month due to other commitments.
Sadly, that is what happens to a large proportion of new PPLs - once the challenge - initially getting a license - goes away, eventually so does the interest....and there are only so many £200 burger trips you can make before that happens.The answer, of course, is to find new challenges, and that is actually remarkably easy - once you accept that the granting of a PPL is simply the *start* of your education as an aviator, not the end.
I'd say don't fall into the trap of buying a share in something uninspiring after you qualify - spend some time and money finding out the sort of flying you really enjoy; the formal route after a PPL is to do an IMC/Night qualification - not available (yet) to the NPPL vs the JAR-PPL, but we'll see that the European NPPL equivalent brings over the next year or so - but certainly take the time to do some aerobatics - because the challenges there never go away, you just keep moving up to a new level.
All of this can be difficult if you learn to fly in an environment which is focussed purely on getting you through the PPL, without much concern for what happens afterwards - there are many such sausage-machine schools around, arguably to be avoided. I'm lucky in that my local flying club is a place where you'd happily spend the day even if the weather was absolutely abysmal, with no hope of flying, because the food is great, and company excellent. As a club, the flying school forms an integral part of the operation, but not overwhelmingly so, and huge efforts are made to keep recently qualified PPLs interested and involved.
Try to imagine your favourite pub & restuarant, parked next to the Nurburgring, where you can pitch up, enjoy a very pleasant lunch, sit about in the sunshine enjoying the company, then nip out for 30 minutes or so of absolute legalised hooliganism, come back, do a bit of tinkering and cleaning on the vehicle, maybe go out for another blast, and finally watch the sun go down over a beer. Perfect.
Now, remind me why you want to buy a share in a 152?
Don't be too jealous of eharding. He was to be found this weekend dismantling MAXG for the inspector as their permit inadvertantly ran out.
Here's a short flick of eharding demonstrating our Yak in some style.
JW911 (also with KH at WW)!!

Here's a short flick of eharding demonstrating our Yak in some style.
JW911 (also with KH at WW)!!
Edited by JW911 on Sunday 26th April 23:55
JW911 said:
Don't be too jealous of eharding. He was to be found this weekend dismantling MAXG for the inspector as their permit inadvertantly ran out.
JW911 (also with KH at WW)!!
Indeed. Spent most of the weekend de-panelling the little brute, remembering novel obscenities I'd forgotten since the last time I did it, well over a year ago.
JW911 (also with KH at WW)!!
As ever, 90% of the task took 10% of the time, but I'd forgotten that you have to remove the sodding exhaust collector to get at two screws on the gear spring covers, and spent over an hour removing one single bloody God-forsaken screw that decided it wasn't playing fair. That being said, although the Anglo-Saxon usage was fairly high, it didn't reach the pinnacle achieved three years ago, when after comprehensively skinning my knuckles in the process of removing the prop for overhaul, and using an extremely creative combination of Old English and New World invective that would have made Derek and Clive blush, I looked round to see that a party of school-children were being given a tour of the hangar. Arse.
On the plus side, lunch involved the Ribs from the Specials Board, but don't try them if you're wearing anything that can't be boil washed - delicious, but very, very messy....particularly when your fellow Airbus Captain and Yak driver proudly demonstrated a new application for his iPhone, which exists purely to emit loud belching noises on demand. When asked why?...., he merely said "Because it saves me the trouble of doing it". I nearly inhaled an entire side of ribs as a result. Quality geezer. Quality airline.
Anyway, the Yak is parked outside of engineering, and it is completely mingingly dirty...and you've got the week off work (as has Captain Belch)...so how's about the pair of you could give it the once over before we head North?..given that I cleaned it last time...and the time before that.
And that, gentle readers, is how a mere PPL shames a pair of ATPLs into cleaning an aeroplane....
Edited by eharding on Monday 27th April 00:45
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