Any one else a PPL?

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flyingjase

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3,094 posts

246 months

Thursday 23rd April 2009
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I just wondered in the new world order of the Pie & Piston, whether there are any fellow PPL's on here?

As a Pistonheads forum surely there must be, if so, what do you fly? Where do you fly from and how often do you get up?

Personally I have a share in an Arrow, fly from White Waltham and don't get up as often as I would like or should.

Over to you.....

eharding

14,539 posts

299 months

Thursday 23rd April 2009
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Shares in G-MAXG and G-YAKH, also at Waltham.

Which Arrow?

edfrp

101 posts

232 months

Friday 24th April 2009
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Currently PA-15 and Cap 10 from a farmstrip in Wiltshire - my home base for 18 years now.

GG33

1,221 posts

216 months

Friday 24th April 2009
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900 hours here..recently sold Beech Bonanza, now currently without aircraft.
Have done some epic overseas flights (North Pole)

El Capitano

1,155 posts

208 months

Friday 24th April 2009
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edfrp said:
Currently PA-15 and Cap 10 from a farmstrip in Wiltshire - my home base for 18 years now.
where in Wilts?

Citabria mostly on a private strip in Wilts. Just renewed my PPL after it expired 2 years back, wont let it lapse again i dont think, forgot how much fun flying a light aircraft is!


Merritt

1,654 posts

253 months

Friday 24th April 2009
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Me too.. whistle

PPL & Night qual.. going to do the 'wobby prob' check out very soon in the Slingsby T67 firefly. Based at Thruxton & currently using PA28 181 & 161

Steve

Roop

6,012 posts

299 months

Friday 24th April 2009
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Lapsed PPL here. Had an interest in a C182 at Blackpool and also a much faster toy at Exeter (G-BZSE). Moved to CH so C-182 now gone. Still got SE. PITA flying here in CH, fun is all gone so stick to r/c models now.

edfrp

101 posts

232 months

Friday 24th April 2009
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El Capitano said:
edfrp said:
Currently PA-15 and Cap 10 from a farmstrip in Wiltshire - my home base for 18 years now.
where in Wilts?
Garston Farm - it's in the Colerne ATZ. Where are you based?

El Capitano

1,155 posts

208 months

Friday 24th April 2009
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edfrp said:
El Capitano said:
edfrp said:
Currently PA-15 and Cap 10 from a farmstrip in Wiltshire - my home base for 18 years now.
where in Wilts?
Garston Farm - it's in the Colerne ATZ. Where are you based?
Ah yea i know of it.

its a small private strip south of Devizes, in Urchfont, more or less the only aircraft that uses it though!

Ewan S

1,295 posts

242 months

Friday 24th April 2009
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Er... speakersee de english? The rest of us pistonheaders haven't got a clue what any of you are talking about? (before you flame me, I should add my Dad flies 747-400 cargo planes, and we have a little 2 seater thing called a Prostar PT2C - homebuilt aircraft which is the only one in the UK)

I'm working towards my PPL (got all my Dad's books at my place) and fly the Prostar all the time, but talking in codes the entire time really puts me off!

flyingjase

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3,094 posts

246 months

Friday 24th April 2009
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eharding said:
Shares in G-MAXG and G-YAKH, also at Waltham.

Which Arrow?
That's just showing off!!!! I'm very jealous

Mine is G-BNEE, very boring compared to your two (maybe you should post some pictures to show everyone else)

I did the AOPA Aeros course as Kemble a couple of years ago - amazing experience and something I should have really kept up. Those guys can really fly, Greeners took me up in the Extra and did a display - let's just say he pulled some serious negative G

ETA - just seen your link with the pics - awesome!

Edited by flyingjase on Friday 24th April 16:13

El Capitano

1,155 posts

208 months

Friday 24th April 2009
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[quote=Ewan S]Er... speakersee de english? The rest of us pistonheaders haven't got a clue what any of you are talking about? [quote]

What 'codes' are you after mate?

stuff like 'G-YAKH' are just registrations of aircraft, cant really see too much that is confusing?
(although the more you fly, the more little abbreviations you will find yourself using when talking about planes!)


edit. the other stuff like C-182 etc are just aircraft types, eg. cessena 182....



Edited by El Capitano on Friday 24th April 17:15

eharding

14,539 posts

299 months

Saturday 25th April 2009
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flyingjase said:
Mine is G-BNEE
We have a mutual friend who has a share in EE and KH - in fact, EE will be partaking in the Mull mass-flyout next weekend, routing Wick via Glenforsa. KH and the other standard fuel-fit 52s will be 3 stopping - at least - planning WW - Wolverhampton - Carlisle - Oban - Glenforsa - Food! Most of the 52s will be stopping at least twice, apart from the smug geezers in JK, freshly fitted with long-range tanks. At the last count, 14 aircraft making the trip.

Talking of which - where's IforB? - are you still going to be in the vicinity? - other side of Scotland, obviously, but standing invitation for Yak hooning and food remains.


Ecosseven

2,172 posts

232 months

Saturday 25th April 2009
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I'm keen on gaining my NPPL once I return from working in the Middle East. Have looked into the costs and around £6000-6500 should get me my licence. A share in an aircraft will likely cost around £4000-£4500 (say 1/4 share in a C150/C152 or similar) at my local airfield. My biggest worry is spending over 10K and then losing interest or not being to fly on a regular basis. I should be able to afford the cost of the training and the aircraft share but I'm not sure I can justify the outlay given that i'll pribably only fly 2 hours a month due to other commitments.


eharding

14,539 posts

299 months

Saturday 25th April 2009
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Ecosseven said:
I'm keen on gaining my NPPL once I return from working in the Middle East. Have looked into the costs and around £6000-6500 should get me my licence. A share in an aircraft will likely cost around £4000-£4500 (say 1/4 share in a C150/C152 or similar) at my local airfield. My biggest worry is spending over 10K and then losing interest or not being to fly on a regular basis. I should be able to afford the cost of the training and the aircraft share but I'm not sure I can justify the outlay given that i'll pribably only fly 2 hours a month due to other commitments.
Sadly, that is what happens to a large proportion of new PPLs - once the challenge - initially getting a license - goes away, eventually so does the interest....and there are only so many £200 burger trips you can make before that happens.

The answer, of course, is to find new challenges, and that is actually remarkably easy - once you accept that the granting of a PPL is simply the *start* of your education as an aviator, not the end.

I'd say don't fall into the trap of buying a share in something uninspiring after you qualify - spend some time and money finding out the sort of flying you really enjoy; the formal route after a PPL is to do an IMC/Night qualification - not available (yet) to the NPPL vs the JAR-PPL, but we'll see that the European NPPL equivalent brings over the next year or so - but certainly take the time to do some aerobatics - because the challenges there never go away, you just keep moving up to a new level.

All of this can be difficult if you learn to fly in an environment which is focussed purely on getting you through the PPL, without much concern for what happens afterwards - there are many such sausage-machine schools around, arguably to be avoided. I'm lucky in that my local flying club is a place where you'd happily spend the day even if the weather was absolutely abysmal, with no hope of flying, because the food is great, and company excellent. As a club, the flying school forms an integral part of the operation, but not overwhelmingly so, and huge efforts are made to keep recently qualified PPLs interested and involved.

Try to imagine your favourite pub & restuarant, parked next to the Nurburgring, where you can pitch up, enjoy a very pleasant lunch, sit about in the sunshine enjoying the company, then nip out for 30 minutes or so of absolute legalised hooliganism, come back, do a bit of tinkering and cleaning on the vehicle, maybe go out for another blast, and finally watch the sun go down over a beer. Perfect.

Now, remind me why you want to buy a share in a 152?

DELLSMITHUK

222 posts

222 months

Sunday 26th April 2009
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PPL(H)
Need to do my LPC soon, haven't had much time/money to fly at all this year:-(
I must get my flight bag out and check my medical etc and get some flight time booked??!!
Dell Smith

mdotd

6,881 posts

199 months

Sunday 26th April 2009
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No, but got the next best thing; a mate who's got his ppl(H) who, when he needs to build his hours up, is always looking for company for a jolly! thumbup Depending on a few things I might look to start taking some lessons this summer...

JW911

928 posts

210 months

Sunday 26th April 2009
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Don't be too jealous of eharding. He was to be found this weekend dismantling MAXG for the inspector as their permit inadvertantly ran out.redcard

Here's a short flick of eharding demonstrating our Yak in some style.


JW911 (also with KH at WW)!!

Edited by JW911 on Sunday 26th April 23:55

Mattt

16,664 posts

233 months

Sunday 26th April 2009
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Ecosseven said:
I'm keen on gaining my NPPL once I return from working in the Middle East.
Why then? It's very cheap over there (due to fuel I guess), or is the qualification worse?

When I looked, I saw flights at £50/hour.

eharding

14,539 posts

299 months

Monday 27th April 2009
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JW911 said:
Don't be too jealous of eharding. He was to be found this weekend dismantling MAXG for the inspector as their permit inadvertantly ran out.redcard

JW911 (also with KH at WW)!!
Indeed. Spent most of the weekend de-panelling the little brute, remembering novel obscenities I'd forgotten since the last time I did it, well over a year ago.

As ever, 90% of the task took 10% of the time, but I'd forgotten that you have to remove the sodding exhaust collector to get at two screws on the gear spring covers, and spent over an hour removing one single bloody God-forsaken screw that decided it wasn't playing fair. That being said, although the Anglo-Saxon usage was fairly high, it didn't reach the pinnacle achieved three years ago, when after comprehensively skinning my knuckles in the process of removing the prop for overhaul, and using an extremely creative combination of Old English and New World invective that would have made Derek and Clive blush, I looked round to see that a party of school-children were being given a tour of the hangar. Arse.

On the plus side, lunch involved the Ribs from the Specials Board, but don't try them if you're wearing anything that can't be boil washed - delicious, but very, very messy....particularly when your fellow Airbus Captain and Yak driver proudly demonstrated a new application for his iPhone, which exists purely to emit loud belching noises on demand. When asked why?...., he merely said "Because it saves me the trouble of doing it". I nearly inhaled an entire side of ribs as a result. Quality geezer. Quality airline.

Anyway, the Yak is parked outside of engineering, and it is completely mingingly dirty...and you've got the week off work (as has Captain Belch)...so how's about the pair of you could give it the once over before we head North?..given that I cleaned it last time...and the time before that.

And that, gentle readers, is how a mere PPL shames a pair of ATPLs into cleaning an aeroplane....


Edited by eharding on Monday 27th April 00:45