'The Blades' aerobatic display team

'The Blades' aerobatic display team

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Simpo Two

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89,106 posts

280 months

Thursday 28th May 2009
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Having spotted them on 'The Apprentice' a quick Google revealed them:

www.theblades.biz/pages/home.php

I'm reasonably interested in matters air, so I'm surprised I've never heard of them.

They appear to be twin seaters, so the inevitable question is 'how much?'

eharding

14,540 posts

299 months

Thursday 28th May 2009
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Simpo Two said:
Having spotted them on 'The Apprentice' a quick Google revealed them:

www.theblades.biz/pages/home.php

I'm reasonably interested in matters air, so I'm surprised I've never heard of them.

They appear to be twin seaters, so the inevitable question is 'how much?'
They fly Extra 300s out of Sywell.

In the past, they've also managed to chew bits off each other, but I understand the team line-up has changed since then.

Solo hire for an Extra 300 will set you back about £300 an hour for the one I punt around occasionally. If you don't have the paperwork & mileage to rent one for yourself, Ultimate High at Kemble and WLAC (my local, near Maidenhead) can provide 'experience' flights with someone who can drive it for you - there are a couple of other outfits as well.

Eric Mc

123,914 posts

280 months

Friday 29th May 2009
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Being an old codger, I immediately assumed the thread might be about The Linton Blades, a team of Jet Provosts operating out of Linton-on-Ouse in the 1970s.

Simpo Two

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Friday 29th May 2009
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Eric Mc said:
Being an old codger, I immediately assumed the thread might be about The Linton Blades, a team of Jet Provosts operating out of Linton-on-Ouse in the 1970s.
Sounds like a minor ice hockey team! But it might have inspired the pilots who now fly in The Blades.

Eric Mc

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Friday 29th May 2009
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The Jet Provost was used by quite a few aerobatic teams over the years:



The Gins
The Red Pelicans
The Vipers
The Poachers
The Blades
The Swords
The Macaws
The Redskins
Gemini Pair

AshVX220

5,951 posts

205 months

Friday 29th May 2009
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What I wanted to know was, how much did it set Sir Alan Sugar back, to get those numpties some play time with the Blades?

Simpo Two

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Friday 29th May 2009
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AshVX220 said:
What I wanted to know was, how much did it set Sir Alan Sugar back, to get those numpties some play time with the Blades?
Given the TV exposure and the fact that The Blades do corporate hospitality, I'm sure a deal was struck!

But would they really put rookies through a full acrobatic routine as shown or was that library footage?

Eric Mc

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Friday 29th May 2009
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It's TV - therefore what you see on the screen is probably only partially true.

Bernie-the-bolt

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Friday 29th May 2009
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I saw them at Dunsfold and they were quite entertaining as far as that type of show goes...


eccles

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237 months

Friday 29th May 2009
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I believe they are booked in to appear at our Families day/70th anniversary celebrations at Wattisham this summer.

Eric Mc

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280 months

Friday 29th May 2009
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They were at Farnborough last year as well.

I'd still prefer a team of JPs though.

MartG

21,817 posts

219 months

Monday 8th June 2009
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I've seen them a couple of times at Sunderland airshow - I seem to recall their synchronised rolls being very impressive

spitfire-ian

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Mr Dave

3,233 posts

210 months

Tuesday 9th June 2009
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Seen them at Eastbourne 2 years ago and I think at Galway/Salthill?

Very good, very precise and entertaining enough.

Though on the apprentice and on the TT coverage where they took some bikers up they really did go easy on them?

I would feel a bit ripped off if all I got for the money was a few loops rolls and wingovers, would be a bit dull after getting "the full works with extra g" from a Tutor pilot one day hurl

eharding

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299 months

Wednesday 10th June 2009
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Mr Dave said:
Seen them at Eastbourne 2 years ago and I think at Galway/Salthill?

Very good, very precise and entertaining enough.

Though on the apprentice and on the TT coverage where they took some bikers up they really did go easy on them?

I would feel a bit ripped off if all I got for the money was a few loops rolls and wingovers, would be a bit dull after getting "the full works with extra g" from a Tutor pilot one day hurl
It is always a tricky judgement for those flying passengers on aerobatic 'experience' flights as to the range of figures flown, and actually a lot of it boils down to the pre-flight chat, and how communicative the passenger is during the course of the flight. You don't want to disappoint the passenger, but at the same time you don't want to be scraping your passenger's last meal off the inside of the canopy - and it is very seldom you would expose anyone to serious negative G. I have no idea about the Tutor (never flown one) but the Extra 300 is perfectly capable of shutting down/blowing up an unprepared passenger's head, if required.

Mr Dave

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210 months

Wednesday 10th June 2009
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+6/-3 I think so not a lot compared to an extra, but plenty for a bit of fun, suprisingly flickable too.

One guy I know passed out at just about 2g which really illustrates what your saying, he definately did not have fun and is probably put off flying for. If he had paid for the flight im sure he wouldnt be a happy bunny.

Edited by Mr Dave on Wednesday 10th June 00:54

IforB

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244 months

Wednesday 10th June 2009
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+6/-3 is plenty to get most people throwing up, unconcious or screaming in mortal terror!

I personally prefer a nice gentle routine compared to trying to pull the wings off something, the nice thing with an Extra is that as it is so capable, it is almost too easy!

With most aeros experience lessons with someone who has never done any before, it is sufficient just to turn the thing upsidedown for ten seconds and perform a simple loop or roll. Their brains simply call "enough" and the adrenaline gets flooded through their system. Job done!

Mr Dave

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210 months

Wednesday 10th June 2009
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Gliders are my favourite for aeros, just seems that bit more special and involving, when I got a go in a Tucano things were almost too easy as you just point it and it went compared to everything else ive flown in.

I take it an Extra feels the same? Will have to get a go in one someday.

IforB

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244 months

Wednesday 10th June 2009
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Well, it's not that easy! You have to get over the power and lightning response of the controls compared to more normal machines. Once you got that sorted though, then yes, they are a piece of cake.

I can thoroughly recommend it!

eharding

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299 months

Wednesday 10th June 2009
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Mr Dave said:
Gliders are my favourite for aeros, just seems that bit more special and involving, when I got a go in a Tucano things were almost too easy as you just point it and it went compared to everything else ive flown in.

I take it an Extra feels the same? Will have to get a go in one someday.
The roll-rate of the Extra is the first thing that would get your attention, but depending on how the aircraft was set up you might find the lack of break-out force rather unpleasant - as they emerge from the factory, there is practically none - Walter seems to like it that way; for the rest of us, either adjusting the spades or adding p-strip to get a decent feel for stick centre is the way to go.

Depending on where you're sitting, you'd probably feel the Extra beating you up more than the other aerobatic types you've flown - in the rear (primary) seat particularly. Compared to a Pitts, the feel of the Extra does seem vaguely remote - if you jump out of the Pitts into the 300, the rudder feels wooden and comparably ineffective - get back into the Pitts, you remember you only need to flex your toes to have an effect, but the roll rate seems suddenly quite benign. Getting back into the Yak after either of them, and you realise what it must be like to try and set a lap record at the Nürburgring in a Range Rover.