Aircraft radio Frequencies

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WestYorkie

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196 months

Thursday 2nd July 2009
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Ehup all.

I've got an airband radio for Waddington airshow this weekend and have got some frequencies for the airshow it's self.
I wondered if there's anywhere that I can find civilian radio frequencies?

Any help would be apprecitated, Thanks


P.s what is DATIS?

john_p

7,073 posts

251 months

Thursday 2nd July 2009
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Google "airband frequencies" and you'll get lots.

e.g. http://www.radios-uk.com/airfrequencies.htm

Don't tell anyone, it's illegal for you to listen to it wink

eharding

13,735 posts

285 months

Thursday 2nd July 2009
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The CAA publish handy frequency cards:

The Southern:

http://www.caa.co.uk/docs/64/DAP_ACD_Freq_ref_sout...

...and the Northern and Scottish.

http://www.caa.co.uk/docs/64/DAP_ACD_Freq_north_we...

Obviously, the Northern frequencies tend to be louder than the soft Southern shandy-drinking variety.

Eric Mc

122,053 posts

266 months

Friday 3rd July 2009
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Military aircraft also use UHF rather than VHF so a cheaper VHF only civilian airband radio won't pick up may of the military transmissions.

Of course, when under civilian air traffic control, military aircraft will use normal civilian airband.

elster

17,517 posts

211 months

Friday 3rd July 2009
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If you want any other specific airfield frequencies I will happily look them up in pooleys for you.

Just write on here or PM me a list and will look them all up for you.

Edited by elster on Friday 3rd July 07:52

WestYorkie

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Friday 3rd July 2009
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Thanks guys. Got the Waddington freqs so should be all set for the weekend.
Also got the ISS passes so should be a good nerdy weekend biggrin

speedtwelve

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274 months

Friday 3rd July 2009
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DATIS is an automated transmission of the current weather at a particular airfield, broadcast in a continuous loop. Dial in the DATIS frequency and you'll hear runway in use, wind, altimeter setting pressures, cloud etc. It's updated every hour, or whenever there's a significant change i.e. change of runway in use. First DATIS of the day is 'alpha', then 'bravo' etc, giving an easy way of checking whether there has been any change since you last listened.

DATIS is copied by the crews before start/taxy, and again when airborne before descent on recovery.

anonymous-user

55 months

Saturday 4th July 2009
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speedtwelve said:
DATIS is an automated transmission of the current weather at a particular airfield, broadcast in a continuous loop. Dial in the DATIS frequency and you'll hear runway in use, wind, altimeter setting pressures, cloud etc. It's updated every hour, or whenever there's a significant change i.e. change of runway in use. First DATIS of the day is 'alpha', then 'bravo' etc, giving an easy way of checking whether there has been any change since you last listened.

DATIS is copied by the crews before start/taxy, and again when airborne before descent on recovery.
That's ATIS

D-ATIS is Digital ATIS or ATIS transmitted via Arinc/Acars etc via text to the aircraft beyond the VHF range of the airport ATIS.

Only major airports have D-ATIS at the moment.

speedtwelve

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274 months

Saturday 4th July 2009
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Stovey,

Yep, but in the UK mil DATIS is also used as an abbreviation for D(eparture)ATIS, which is the same as a normal ATIS voice transmission that you mention. Most UK military airfields will refer to ATIS as DATIS, although there's nothing 'digital' about it; certainly this is the case with the Station that I fly from.

anonymous-user

55 months

Sunday 5th July 2009
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speedtwelve said:
Stovey,

Yep, but in the UK mil DATIS is also used as an abbreviation for D(eparture)ATIS, which is the same as a normal ATIS voice transmission that you mention. Most UK military airfields will refer to ATIS as DATIS, although there's nothing 'digital' about it; certainly this is the case with the Station that I fly from.
I've not seen that before, which airfields refer to a DATIS that isn't also a digital one?

speedtwelve

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274 months

Sunday 5th July 2009
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Have a look at the airfield freq listings in the BINA en-route supplement, chap.

Certainly in the EFT world at the moment, at Cranwell, Barkston, Middle Wallop, etc, it's SOP to refer to ATIS as 'DATIS'

anonymous-user

55 months

Monday 6th July 2009
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Is a DATIS just a normal ATIS that you call DATIS because you happen to be departing or is it referred to as DATIS on aerodrome charts etc? Do you also then have different AATIS for arrivals?

In my Aerad, Jeppessen and UK AIP charts and they refer to D-ATIS as an ATIS which also has a digital element, so you can either listen to it as a VHF transmission or via text from anywhere in the world through ACARS.

If there are airports like Heathrow that are busy enough to require both distinct departure and arrival ATIS will have two different frequencies and be referred to as ATIS(D) or ATIS(A) or ATIS arrival / ATIS departure most other airports just have the one referred to as an ATIS

I suppose the answer to the OPs question will depend on where he read about DATIS then?

Either way the ATIS (D) or otherwise is a transmission with information about the airfield in it. hehe







Edited by el stovey on Monday 6th July 10:14

WestYorkie

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196 months

Monday 6th July 2009
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Stovey I found the Datis Freq here http://www.militaryairshows.co.uk/freq.htm
Thanks for all your help guys. Had a good weekend, It'd have been better if the Vulcan flew but that's another story frown

Cheers again.

anonymous-user

55 months

Monday 6th July 2009
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At the very end of that link there is a yellow box with decodes to the abbreviations

It lists some RAF bases as being DATIS and at the end says DATIS is digital atis but some of those airfields aren't actually digital atis equiped. Here the DATIS is another name for departure atis as speedtwelve mentions.

Confused? hehe



Edited by el stovey on Monday 6th July 11:53

speedtwelve

3,510 posts

274 months

Monday 6th July 2009
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Stovey

Just had a look in the mil en-route supplement red book at work, and the freqs for mil airfields are indeed just listed as 'ATIS' freqs. 'DATIS' seems to have crept in somewhere, as it is SOP to refer to it as such here at Middle Wallop and at some mil airfields elsewhere, but you're correct, it should really be just 'ATIS'. Good old mil vs civvy terminology... 'Final' vs 'Finals' is another good can of worms!

mattdaniels

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283 months

Tuesday 7th July 2009
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SINGULAR!!!!

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