Being victimised at work

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Graham E

12,729 posts

187 months

Friday 7th August 2009
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Whats a cto?

GreenV8S

30,252 posts

285 months

Friday 7th August 2009
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If you're told your timekeeping isn't good enough, then make sure you're always early from now on.

If you're told not to allow people into the building, don't. It's not a matter of being rude or unhelpful; if your companies policy is that people are required to scan themselves in every time then that's what you do. Don't let anybody else pressure you into doing something you've been told not to.

ETA: on secure sites where similar policies are in effect, nobody would usually try to follow you through a secure door but 'tail gating' is a recognised method of breaking in and you are specifically warned not to allow it; stand in the doorway if necessary and ensure that the door closes behind you so that the next person is forced to scan them self in. I don't suppose your place is that strict, but don't have any compunction about making people scan themselves in if that's what you've been told to do.

Edited by GreenV8S on Friday 7th August 00:21

oldbanger

4,316 posts

239 months

Friday 7th August 2009
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Graham E said:
Whats a cto?
I'm guessing this
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chief_technical_offic...

oldbanger

4,316 posts

239 months

Friday 7th August 2009
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GreenV8S said:
If you're told your timekeeping isn't good enough, then make sure you're always early from now on.

If you're told not to allow people into the building, don't. It's not a matter of being rude or unhelpful; if your companies policy is that people are required to scan themselves in every time then that's what you do. Don't let anybody else pressure you into doing something you've been told not to.
Nail, head, hit.

And don't let your internal desire to please pressure you into doing something you've been told not to either.

Mark-C

5,207 posts

206 months

Friday 7th August 2009
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oldbanger said:
GreenV8S said:
If you're told your timekeeping isn't good enough, then make sure you're always early from now on.

If you're told not to allow people into the building, don't. It's not a matter of being rude or unhelpful; if your companies policy is that people are required to scan themselves in every time then that's what you do. Don't let anybody else pressure you into doing something you've been told not to.
Nail, head, hit.

And don't let your internal desire to please pressure you into doing something you've been told not to either.
Absolutely this!

Follow the rules ... it's more important than making people happy. As a general rule ... get in on time, don't leave early and be good at your job ... this will help lots

Oh and stop reading your horoscope!

Graham E

12,729 posts

187 months

Friday 7th August 2009
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If CTO is chief technical officer, as posted above, then thats a fairly senior position - not the place to get an enemy. If the gripes are not following the rules *technical people often are real sticklers for procedure), then just make sure you follow the rules, esp re. security, and you'll be OK.

escargot

17,111 posts

218 months

Friday 7th August 2009
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Your team leader actually told you that the CTO is picking on you?

Chilli

17,318 posts

237 months

Friday 7th August 2009
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escargot said:
Your team leader actually told you that the CTO is picking on you?
Fantastic. Got this writing?

GreenV8S

30,252 posts

285 months

Friday 7th August 2009
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Graham E said:
make sure you follow the rules, esp re. security
Two things that are liable to see you marched off the premises at any job are breaching the rules for security, or health and safety. These are the things that above all else you don't take liberties with.

GreenV8S

30,252 posts

285 months

Saturday 8th August 2009
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Z064life said:
You're all missing the point.
Are you saying that the problem is you spending time opening the door etc instead of doing your job? In that case I have completely missed the point. If that were me I'd ask my supervisor whether it was appropriate for me to open the door, or better to leave it for somebody else. if the answer is that I should do it, since it's apparently a sore point, I'd try to make sure I was seen to be quick about it and straight back to work, rather than make polite conversation. And for people who *can* manage on their own, let them rather than be helpful.

GreenV8S

30,252 posts

285 months

Saturday 8th August 2009
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Z064life said:
I hope I wasn't rude by my comment. I just mean you're missing the point as the issue was me getting up to open the door, not holding it open for soemone who is coming towards the door to get into the office (the latter is common practise).
I wasn't offended. After re-reading your original post though I'm left confused which of the many details you included are actually issues that the CTO is unhappy with.

You hold the door open when you're leaving and somebody else is coming in. Is this relevant? It's a possible security risk but if that isn't an issue then why would anyone care?

You open the door if you're working and see somebody wants to come in. Can they get in without your help? If not, who is supposed to let them in? Does the person letting them in have any other responsibilities such as find who they are and whether they should be allowed in? It should have been made clear during your induction what the policy is for letting people in, and if you aren't clear or think you may have misunderstood then find out.

I'm baffled by your decision to text your boss when you thought he was talking about you. WTF? It's none of your effing business who he talks to or what he talks about. If he decides to tell you or involve you that's one thing, but involving yourself in his conversations is completely inappropriate.

The only thing that is absolutely clear from your original post is that your time keeping has been poor, and they way to address this is to ensure that from now on you arrive early and leave late.

Soovy

35,829 posts

272 months

Saturday 8th August 2009
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Z064life said:
.............Opening the door for someone in need is a good deed. If I don't, the guy who may be struggling will see me doing nothing (As will anyone else in the office but much further away from me/the door) and that will probably have repercussions too.
FFS. Taligating is a massive issue on secure sites.


Get in on time. Follow the rules. End of.


whoami

13,151 posts

241 months

Saturday 8th August 2009
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Soovy said:
Get in on time. Follow the rules. End of.
That sums it up pretty nicely.

OP are you not being just a little sensitive about this?

NDA

21,701 posts

226 months

Saturday 8th August 2009
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whoami said:
OP are you not being just a little sensitive about this?
I was kind of thinking that too.

I've worked, like many here, for over 25 years - it's been tough at times. It's not supposed to be indulgent fun, whilst some workplaces are better than others, some will pile on pressure and some colleagues will be unpleasant.

Just get on with it.

Do your job, keep your head down and, when the job market improves, move if you dislike the attention from whoever it is.

You need some grit and determination to reach the top, now is the time to develop it.

mrdelmonti

1,420 posts

182 months

Saturday 8th August 2009
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Your on probation, just do what you're told, when you're told and suck it up.

NightDriver

1,080 posts

227 months

Sunday 9th August 2009
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If he has a problem with you opening the door, ask him if you can move desks to somewhere further away from the door so it no longer becomes your problem...

Or just ignore people coming in and out and get on with your work!

okgo

38,315 posts

199 months

Sunday 9th August 2009
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Is this a wind up?

If the man tells you not to do something, then don't do it. If the person at the door kicks up a fuss when they have been swiped through just tell them its policy, or better yet ignore it and get on with work.

Most working people deep down are polite, but risking your job over being polite seems odd..

CommanderJameson

22,096 posts

227 months

Sunday 9th August 2009
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Z064life said:
Any ideas how to handle this?
Yes.

Do what the CTO tells you. If your team leader has a problem with this, tell him to take it up with the CTO. Never mind about "looking selfish", if the CTO tells you to stop being the doorman, stop being the bloody doorman.

If your team leader has a problem with the CTO cutting him out of the loop, that's his problem, not yours.

And stop being late. No-one cares about your excuses.

edc

9,245 posts

252 months

Monday 10th August 2009
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It might help if you understood the rationale behind the request/response ...

Perhaps your productivity is low and you are wasting time opening the door? Perhaps the time spent chatting breaks your concentration? Who knows, it could be none of the above.

phil-sti

2,690 posts

180 months

Monday 10th August 2009
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so u get moaned at for

1. being late
2. letting people into a secure site when they should swipe

and u go off with your tail between your legs and dont want to work there..... can you not take the pressure of a working enviroment or something ?