Aircraft mistakes in films

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philwhite

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259 posts

196 months

Wednesday 19th August 2009
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Being interested in both film and aviation, I’m always shocked by how little attention film and TV makers take to aviation, they seem to just use any archive footage they find! Often you’ll see someone board a plane with 6 abreast seating such as a 737 or similar, only for them to then use stock footage of a 747 in flight.

Seeing Catch me if you can again few weeks ago, a film in which 60’s aviation takes a big part, in the final scene Hanks and DeCaprio board a Pan Am 707, which then morphs into a 767 when it lands, a plane that was still 10 years away from its first flight when the film as set!!!

Goodfellas is another, it shows footage of a 747 landing in 1963!!

Even the news last night referred to a C17 as a Hercules!! Please tell me, am I being too geeky picking up on these?

Edited by philwhite on Wednesday 19th August 09:20

Semi hemi

1,801 posts

213 months

Wednesday 19th August 2009
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Yes you are geeky, Welcome to your spiritual home...

In the film Air America they use Pilatus Porters as Helio Stallions...

Edited by Semi hemi on Wednesday 19th August 09:12

Eric Mc

123,935 posts

280 months

Wednesday 19th August 2009
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Probably being a bit geeky - but then, who am I to talk, being a member of the Geek Clan myself (plus having an Honorary Doctorate in Nerdism).

I find it mildly annoying in films where the aircraft is of no major importance to the plot.

If the aircraft is/are central to the story - then they should do their best to get it right. However,I am always prepared to express latitude if the particular aircraft they really should use is no longer available - or the wrong variant has to be used for the same reason. Films like "Battle of Britain", for instance, are not spoiled by the fact that none of the aircraft shown were actually of the right variants.

What annoys me most is when news coverage or documentaries are sloppy as it indicates a lack of care and poor research - which doesn't bode well for other aspects of their film making.

williamp

19,845 posts

288 months

Wednesday 19th August 2009
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Yes you're bring geeky. Nothing wrong with that!

of course in 633 squadron you have Canberras in the background,

Eric Mc

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280 months

Wednesday 19th August 2009
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And if the war had only lasted a wee bit longer, Canberras might very well have served in the conflict.

The Mossies are all the wrong versions, of course (being trainers rather than bombers - but at least they're Mossies).

Edited by Eric Mc on Wednesday 19th August 09:21

MartG

21,834 posts

219 months

Wednesday 19th August 2009
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If you're geeky, then I am too 'cos it annoys me too. Same for any film showing a rocket taking off - it's amazing how often different shots of 'supposedly' the same liftoff use footage of totally different rockets

AshVX220

5,951 posts

205 months

Wednesday 19th August 2009
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Eric Mc said:
What annoys me most is when news coverage or documentaries are sloppy as it indicates a lack of care and poor research - which doesn't bode well for other aspects of their film making.
Couldn't agree more. Most defence based news stories are completely flawed.

On the Hollywood side of things though, it's just to cut costs generally I'd have thought.

Dift

1,644 posts

242 months

Wednesday 19th August 2009
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Can a MiG 28 do a 4g negative dive?? wink

(top gun) Maverick says it can.

Eric Mc

123,935 posts

280 months

Wednesday 19th August 2009
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AshVX220 said:
Eric Mc said:
What annoys me most is when news coverage or documentaries are sloppy as it indicates a lack of care and poor research - which doesn't bode well for other aspects of their film making.
Couldn't agree more. Most defence based news stories are completely flawed.

On the Hollywood side of things though, it's just to cut costs generally I'd have thought.
Sometimes cost is the driver. Other times it's lack of alternatives (as in my example "Battle of Britain").

ph1l5

5,027 posts

217 months

Wednesday 19th August 2009
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In the film Memphis Belle, the ball turret is shot off, but when the plane starts its landing cycle the turret is back.

mackie1

8,168 posts

248 months

Wednesday 19th August 2009
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Dift said:
Can a MiG 28 do a 4g negative dive?? wink

(top gun) Maverick says it can.
It's fictional, so probably wink

williamp

19,845 posts

288 months

Wednesday 19th August 2009
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mackie1 said:
Dift said:
Can a MiG 28 do a 4g negative dive?? wink

(top gun) Maverick says it can.
It's fictional, so probably wink
I dont think anyone has been that close to a Mig 28.

mrmaggit

10,146 posts

263 months

Wednesday 19th August 2009
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williamp said:
mackie1 said:
Dift said:
Can a MiG 28 do a 4g negative dive?? wink

(top gun) Maverick says it can.
It's fictional, so probably wink
I dont think anyone has been that close to a Mig 28.
Aren't all MiGs odd numbered?

52classic

2,633 posts

225 months

Wednesday 19th August 2009
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I guess the Canberras are pretending to be Me 262s!

I had no problem with Tiger Moths and Stampes on both sides in The Blue Max but I recall a film about London towards the end of WWII where the spy dropping aircarft was a Cessna 337. An American production that became a mini series on TV. Robert Mitcham I think........

And how often do you see Routemaster buses on London streets during WWII?


crossle

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266 months

Wednesday 19th August 2009
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De Havilland Chipmunks used as Stukas, anyone?

FourWheelDrift

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299 months

Wednesday 19th August 2009
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52classic said:
And how often do you see Routemaster buses on London streets during WWII?
If they are Routemaster's used then they still bare a good similarity to the AEC and Leyland Titan Double Deckers which the Routemasters replaced. But there are quite a few of the older ones left to be used.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AEC_Regent_III_RT


Eric Mc

123,935 posts

280 months

Wednesday 19th August 2009
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crossle said:
De Havilland Chipmunks used as Stukas, anyone?
What fim was that?

I know that some Percival Proctors were adapted to look like Stukas for the film "Battle of Britain". However, they flew so badly it was decided they were too dangerous to use.

Radio controlled models were used in the end - not very convincingly either.

hugo a gogo

23,416 posts

248 months

Wednesday 19th August 2009
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mrmaggit said:
williamp said:
mackie1 said:
Dift said:
Can a MiG 28 do a 4g negative dive?? wink

(top gun) Maverick says it can.
It's fictional, so probably wink
I dont think anyone has been that close to a Mig 28.
Aren't all MiGs odd numbered?
All russian fighters

Lefty Guns

18,252 posts

217 months

Wednesday 19th August 2009
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mrmaggit said:
williamp said:
mackie1 said:
Dift said:
Can a MiG 28 do a 4g negative dive?? wink

(top gun) Maverick says it can.
It's fictional, so probably wink
I dont think anyone has been that close to a Mig 28.
Aren't all MiGs odd numbered?
Apart from the even numbered ones (the Mig 8 and Mig 100), yes.

laugh

crossle

1,520 posts

266 months

Wednesday 19th August 2009
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Eric Mc said:
crossle said:
De Havilland Chipmunks used as Stukas, anyone?
What fim was that?

I know that some Percival Proctors were adapted to look like Stukas for the film "Battle of Britain". However, they flew so badly it was decided they were too dangerous to use.

Radio controlled models were used in the end - not very convincingly either.
Doh!

I'll get my coat...

The "Stukas" were at Bovingdon for a bit, when I were a lad, and my memory had them as Chippies. Google proves me wrong...