Engine tick over.

Engine tick over.

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MOWER MAN

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88 posts

273 months

Saturday 10th January 2004
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Can anyone help with adjusting the idle speed of a Tuscan speed 6 engine as i have not had to do this befor.Over the last week my tick over has dropped from 800rpm to 500rpm causing the engine to cut out sometimes when slowing down.Thank you. Steve

_DJ_

4,978 posts

269 months

Saturday 10th January 2004
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Why not just take it back to the dealer (as it's under warranty)? I'd personally like the reassurance that the engine was OK - I can't imagine that the tickover should fail so you may just be compensating for another problem by raising the idle.

DJ

philipleslie67

237 posts

267 months

Saturday 10th January 2004
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I had this problem for a while and solved the problem by running the engine at around 1500 rpm for a couple of minutes or so when starting from cold solved the problem, idle then returned to around 700. I will get them to check when they do the next service anyway.

NCE 61

2,422 posts

296 months

Saturday 10th January 2004
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Could be the valves closing up best to get it checked.

Nick

T88CAN

3,474 posts

272 months

Saturday 10th January 2004
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NCE 61 said:
Could be the valves closing up best to get it checked.

Nick



tvr totty

423 posts

265 months

Tuesday 13th January 2004
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best to be safe than sorry but for mine, especially since its been colder in the mornings, when i leave for work (nice and early) do exactly as the man says, 1500 revs 30 seconds or so and she is back up to 700.

hope thats all it is.

xx

matt_c

186 posts

260 months

Tuesday 13th January 2004
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Check there is no air leak in the airbox on the inlet manifold which would weaken the air fuel mixture (engine doesn't like this!!).

(sorry, no kisses from me..)

Gimlet

328 posts

297 months

Tuesday 13th January 2004
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I am experiencing low tickover of 500rpm on my September 2003 car.
It's going in next week to get be sorted but the Dealer thinks it is just a Temperature Sensor causing slow idle. It has never cut out on me but it does labour when first started up from cold.

ec1 eex

400 posts

257 months

Thursday 19th February 2004
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Hmm - My dealer told me that low tick over means I need an engine retune. Quote: "A retune is required as a result of wear and tear, so not covered under the warranty."
11 months old Tuscan.

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Alf Essex

1,467 posts

276 months

Thursday 19th February 2004
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Steve,

I agree, run the engine for a minute-ish at 1500 and that might solve the problem due to the cold. Thats what a TVR engineer told me.

I have the opposite problem, mine has recent started ticking over between 1000 & 1100...now what does that mean??

Alan.

>> Edited by Alf Essex on Thursday 19th February 08:06

salty-nlv

438 posts

274 months

Thursday 19th February 2004
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Yer '03 engines going to go Alf

Only jesting, probably due to the cold the temp sensor's are forcing engine to tick over slightly higher.

Alf Essex

1,467 posts

276 months

Thursday 19th February 2004
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salty-nlv said:
Yer '03 engines going to go Alf

Only jesting, probably due to the cold the temp sensor's are forcing engine to tick over slightly higher.


ahha...I'm not worried about it anyway.

Cheers.

Alan.

lady topaz

3,855 posts

269 months

Thursday 19th February 2004
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My mechanic has said if you get out and listen to the exhausts when idling at 500 rpm, if one is making a pop pop popping noise, then dont drive it as one cylinder might be down. Tuscans are set usually at 700 rpm or 900-1000 if air con. He said best to get it checked at dealer.

>> Edited by lady topaz on Thursday 19th February 13:36

plipton

1,302 posts

273 months

Thursday 19th February 2004
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salty-nlv said:
probably due to the cold the temp sensor's are forcing engine to tick over slightly higher.


I thought these engines didn't have any sort of cold running gizmos - hence the manual saying to hold revs at 1500 for 30 seconds when cold.

As long as there's no faults tick over is a doddle to adjust. Pop off the main bonnet then locate the throttle cable between throtle bodies 3 & 4. Adjust the screw which stops the throttle bodies closing completely (it's pretty obvious which one it is) until the desired tickover (with a warm engine) is achieved. I set mine to 900 due to occasional stalling with headlights, aircon, PAS etc being used. Seems fine like that.

What ever you do DO NOT adjust the screws on the individual throttle bodies as this will really throw out the balance.

As mentioned before, check the airbox is not cracked at the joints as this does not help (and they DO crack!!)

Waveboy14

276 posts

259 months

Thursday 19th February 2004
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Alan, no worries. As Rick says, it is easy to overcome this. In practice this will however mean that your power and torque curve has shifted to lower revs. This means, the higher your idle speed, the lower your maximum amount of revs and hence more power down low.

If this gets worse, you will notice that whenever the gear change lights blink, you will shift earlier. So you might have the tendency to rev into the "red zone", based on the gear change lights.

My girlfriend's VW Golf II 1.8 idles at 2000. In that car you can really feel that the car just doesn't pull past the 6000 revs, while the limit is normally 7000. (Sometimes idles at 3000 revs )

Greetings, hope this made some things clear.

Peter

>> Edited by Waveboy14 on Thursday 19th February 19:03

andyvdg

1,537 posts

298 months

Thursday 19th February 2004
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Err...if your idle has changed a lot I would get it checked out by a dealer. Low idle == tappet adjustment normally. Alf's problem could be the temperature sensor or a lambda sensor gone wrong. The temperature sensor is used by the ECU to adjust the map depending on engine temp. At very cold, the timing is retarded until it warms up. Holding the revs at 1500 for 30 seconds helps warms the plugs up so ignition is better.

chinese tuscan

54 posts

257 months

Thursday 19th February 2004
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Had the same problem when I had the car for 1st few months.Took it to dealers and had it sorted....they said it was a tight valve that was causing it.It will only get worse so sort it quick!!

whitey

2,508 posts

299 months

Thursday 19th February 2004
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Could even be a sticky throttle cable. I'd get it checked ASAP.