Non-Labour voting anti-HardBrexiters, would you vote Labour?

Non-Labour voting anti-HardBrexiters, would you vote Labour?

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hyphen

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Saturday 21st October 2017
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Yes, another Brexit Topic smile

Emily Thornberry was interviewed on Hard Talk, and the position of Labour is that in the event of no deal, they will block it in the Commons and the Lords, leading to a no confidence motion, and then a general election will be held.

The Labour position is to 'respect Brexit' by leaving as such, but striking a deal to operate in exactly the same was as currently for an undefined period i.e. a pseudo Brexit in name only.

That made me wonder how non-labour voters would vote if this did occur, Corbynism on one side, and Hard Brexit on the other?

hyphen

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Sunday 22nd October 2017
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mx5nut said:
Atomic12C said:
mx5nut said:
"No deal" is orders of magnitude worse than a "bad deal". Despite the slogans, the Conservatives would be handing us a Labour government for years to come if they allowed it to happen.
How do you reach that conclusion?
A 'bad deal' by definition is a bad deal. Something that does not work in the UK national interest.

A 'bad deal' would likely include many elements of a 'no deal' but also hand additional elements of control to the EU with the UK gaining nothing in return.

Conversely to what you say, a "bad deal" is orders of magnitude worse than a "no deal".
"No deal" means nothing. British citizens across Europe with no right to live or work anymore. EU citizens in the same boat here. Flights grounded as no right to carry out their journeys. Lorries queued up at Dover and Calais... etc etc.

If you think there will be solutions agreed to any of those things - that'll be the deal we're talking about, so it's not "no deal".

What "bad deal" would be worse than that?
Are you making things up?

For example, the Spanish have unilaterally confirmed that in the event of a Hard Brexit, Brits will be allowed to stay, and they want to keep things as they are- 17 Million Brits visit Spain every year, and they will be ensuring that they can still come - so no flights will be grounded to Spain.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2017/oct/22/u...