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Seen a few TV adverts for the MOBO awards. Music Of Black Origin apparently.
It irritates me a bit to be honest. Well, quite a lot in fact. In an age where we think before we speak to avoid saying anything that can be construed as prejudiced, racist, inflammatory or even slightly biased it's seemingly OK to identify and reward people whose musical roots are 'black'
If there was a MOWO for example then can you seriously imagine the furore that would surround? To ringfence music that originated from white people would be ridiculous.
Why does this MOBO award need to exist? We are all equal beings be we black, white, disabled etc etc are we not? So why do the black community who have fought for years and years to overcome racism allow themselves to be separated once more and viewed as a colour?
It irritates me a bit to be honest. Well, quite a lot in fact. In an age where we think before we speak to avoid saying anything that can be construed as prejudiced, racist, inflammatory or even slightly biased it's seemingly OK to identify and reward people whose musical roots are 'black'
If there was a MOWO for example then can you seriously imagine the furore that would surround? To ringfence music that originated from white people would be ridiculous.
Why does this MOBO award need to exist? We are all equal beings be we black, white, disabled etc etc are we not? So why do the black community who have fought for years and years to overcome racism allow themselves to be separated once more and viewed as a colour?
andy-xr said:
lord trumpton said:
Seen a few TV adverts for the MOBO awards. Music Of Black Origin apparently.
It irritates me a bit to be honest. Well, quite a lot in fact. In an age where we think before we speak to avoid saying anything that can be construed as prejudiced, racist, inflammatory or even slightly biased it's seemingly OK to identify and reward people whose musical roots are 'black'
If there was a MOWO for example then can you seriously imagine the furore that would surround? To ringfence music that originated from white people would be ridiculous.
Why does this MOBO award need to exist? We are all equal beings be we black, white, disabled etc etc are we not? So why do the black community who have fought for years and years to overcome racism allow themselves to be separated once more and viewed as a colour?
Because of inequality. To be honest, you sound so stuck in a mindset from the 20s that you wouldnt really get it if it was laid out in white only. It irritates me a bit to be honest. Well, quite a lot in fact. In an age where we think before we speak to avoid saying anything that can be construed as prejudiced, racist, inflammatory or even slightly biased it's seemingly OK to identify and reward people whose musical roots are 'black'
If there was a MOWO for example then can you seriously imagine the furore that would surround? To ringfence music that originated from white people would be ridiculous.
Why does this MOBO award need to exist? We are all equal beings be we black, white, disabled etc etc are we not? So why do the black community who have fought for years and years to overcome racism allow themselves to be separated once more and viewed as a colour?
If you have to think before you speak it shows you have a mindset and viewpoint that you know will make more than a few faux pas, so you're hiding what you're actually thinking. Which reinforces the point that there needs to be more awareness and education, something that the MOBOs will probably give you.
I'm irritated by the fact that we have come a long way along the path in tackling racism and treating people of colour with the same respect as anyone else and then there is a set of awards that award their praise for music that originated from the black community. My point is why is there a need to use a colour of skin to identify a group or source of origin.
I'm not saying blah blah unfair on whites blah blah, just that its accepted to use the black thing in this sense but if a white thing was used for whatever reason then it would really offend coloured people. Its just a mixed message coming through.
Maybe my post does not read the way I intended.
desolate said:
desolate said:
Monkey boy 1 said:
and to think that the people who can arrest you for being racist have a 'Natonal Black Police Association' ?
How racist is that ?
For true equality, things like this should not exist. How racist is that ?
It draws attention to people skin colour. If skin colour is not to be an issue and only of similar importance to hair colour or eye colour then we as a society of mixed race people should not still be using the terminology.
What about a National Ginger Haired Police Association? So the ginners can congregate and separate themselves from the integrated population.
Hey let's not be racist lets embrace all races as equals, treat them like our brothers and sisters and give them special clubs, awards and associations so they blend in seamlessly without any differentiation to anyone else.
In my eyes we are all equal so special associations irk me.
Johnnytheboy said:
My first thought when I see any prize/awards ceremony defined by race or gender is "couldn't they win an award against everyone else then?"
Seems like a retrograde step on the road to equality to me.
That sir is exactly what I've been trying to say through my long winded posts. Well done you have summed it up perfectly in one sentence! Seems like a retrograde step on the road to equality to me.
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