Leaving a vehicle unattended while the engine is running
Discussion
I Just wondered if anyone has had any experience with this.
Its been brought to my attention that its illegal to leave your vehicle unattended while the engine is running, known as 'quitting' for some reason.
It's also illegal to park in a drop off point/loading only while the engine is not running, (this defines parking and thus isn't allowed at a drop off point).
1) How do both of the above work together? Cant leave the car to drop someone off while the engine is running, and cant stop the engine either.
2) What happens if you have a parking heater, which is an option an a Range Rover and allows you to remotely start the engine to defrost the car while your still getting ready in the morning. surely if this was illegal they wouldn't be allowed to sell it.
3) While stopping at a drop of point what happens if your car has auto start-stop to save fuel? That cuts the engine automatically, does that then count as 'parked' and thus is illegal.
citations:
Summarized in the publication, The Highway Code:
123
The Driver and the Environment. You MUST NOT leave a parked vehicle unattended with the engine running or leave a vehicle engine running unnecessarily while that vehicle is stationary on a public road. Generally, if the vehicle is stationary and is likely to remain so for more than a couple of minutes, you should apply the parking brake and switch off the engine to reduce emissions and noise pollution. However it is permissible to leave the engine running if the vehicle is stationary in traffic or for diagnosing faults.
[Law CUR regs 98 & 107]
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-504888/Dri...
http://www.sheffieldforum.co.uk/archive/index.php/...
http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&a...
Its been brought to my attention that its illegal to leave your vehicle unattended while the engine is running, known as 'quitting' for some reason.
It's also illegal to park in a drop off point/loading only while the engine is not running, (this defines parking and thus isn't allowed at a drop off point).
1) How do both of the above work together? Cant leave the car to drop someone off while the engine is running, and cant stop the engine either.
2) What happens if you have a parking heater, which is an option an a Range Rover and allows you to remotely start the engine to defrost the car while your still getting ready in the morning. surely if this was illegal they wouldn't be allowed to sell it.
3) While stopping at a drop of point what happens if your car has auto start-stop to save fuel? That cuts the engine automatically, does that then count as 'parked' and thus is illegal.
citations:
Summarized in the publication, The Highway Code:
123
The Driver and the Environment. You MUST NOT leave a parked vehicle unattended with the engine running or leave a vehicle engine running unnecessarily while that vehicle is stationary on a public road. Generally, if the vehicle is stationary and is likely to remain so for more than a couple of minutes, you should apply the parking brake and switch off the engine to reduce emissions and noise pollution. However it is permissible to leave the engine running if the vehicle is stationary in traffic or for diagnosing faults.
[Law CUR regs 98 & 107]
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-504888/Dri...
http://www.sheffieldforum.co.uk/archive/index.php/...
http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&a...
NavSat said:
Nothing really to add apart from the fact this p
s me off!
There is a cash point right under my building and every chav with a ridiculous load exhaust on their Corsas leaves it running - shaking my windows out of their casements! Argh!
Pelt them with eggs from your window! Or failing that call the Police and they'll apparently be done for leaving the engine running.s me off! There is a cash point right under my building and every chav with a ridiculous load exhaust on their Corsas leaves it running - shaking my windows out of their casements! Argh!
MX7 said:
gsuk1 said:
1) How do both of the above work together? Cant leave the car to drop someone off while the engine is running, and cant stop the engine either.
Dropping someone off isn't the same as parking.gsuk1 said:
2) What happens if you have a parking heater, which is an option an a Range Rover and allows you to remotely start the engine to defrost the car while your still getting ready in the morning. surely if this was illegal they wouldn't be allowed to sell it.
Legal on your property.gsuk1 said:
3) While stopping at a drop of point what happens if your car has auto start-stop to save fuel? That cuts the engine automatically, does that then count as 'parked' and thus is illegal.
If you're still in the car, it wouldn't be considered parked.Do you want to tell us what actually happened?
1) What I mean about the drop of is. Say you needed to stop in a drop off/loading only area, if you leave the engine running while you get out the car to unload something then you've left the engine running unattended on a public road so that's illegal. If you do the same and turn the engine off, then you've parked in a loading area which is also illegal. Rock - Me - Hardplace!
2) If using the parking heater is only legal on your property then this almost negates the need for it, as if you've got a driveway you've likely got a garage so shouldn't need to defrost the car anyway, and if you don't have a garage you'll surely be near your house to get scrapers/de-icer/whatever to do the job.
3) Yes I guess your right, you have to get out the car and stop the engine for it to count as parked. Does this mean you can just wait in a parking space without paying and as long as you don't get out the car you cant be given a parking ticket, because your in the car and are thus not parked? I'm guessing the answers NO.
Nothing has actually happened I'm just curious. Thinking of getting a Range Rover and specking the parking heater but now having second thoughts as it'll be parked on the road, so I cant use it anyway.
lol.
I think the idea is when you get up for work on a monday morning and peer mopily out of the window at the grey cold frozen dullness that awaits you, you can press a button on the key fob to start your cars engine and it'll begin defrosting itself. So while your having your tea and crumpets the car is warming up, then you can run out to the car and clime in and the heating is on, heated seats are on, its all defrosted and you can head off.
I think the idea is when you get up for work on a monday morning and peer mopily out of the window at the grey cold frozen dullness that awaits you, you can press a button on the key fob to start your cars engine and it'll begin defrosting itself. So while your having your tea and crumpets the car is warming up, then you can run out to the car and clime in and the heating is on, heated seats are on, its all defrosted and you can head off.
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