RE: Prior Convictions: McLaren Senna, road warrior

RE: Prior Convictions: McLaren Senna, road warrior

Saturday 4th August 2018

Prior Convictions: McLaren Senna, road warrior

The Senna's inaugural road trip saw car 001 driven from Woking to Paul Ricard. PH tagged along...



I think the owner of McLaren Senna, chassis no 001, has found a way to make his car not unattractive.

David Kyte - nice man - took delivery of his Senna last week at McLaren's Woking factory. McLaren is now turning out two Sennas a day, of the 500 in total it'll build of this 'ultimate track car', (before starting on 75 track-only GTR models, which means it's not that ultimate after all). And virtually all, like Kyte's, will have some level of MSO (McLaren Special Operations) content.

Some MSO elements McLaren can install as the cars make their way down the line. Some, like chassis 001's blue and white paintwork, take more than 600 hours of post-production work. To my eyes it disguises, like warship camouflage, some of the more awkward details, while accentuating how fast it looks even standing still. But the effort means, really, that you're looking at a pretty much million pound car.


Directly after taking delivery, Kyte drove his car straight to Paul Ricard circuit in the south of France for one of the 'Pure' events McLaren lays on for owners; which is like a fancy track day, but serious up to and including a one-make 570S GT4 series. Among others, Bruno Senna comes and helps out with the tuition.

PH hitched a ride in an accompanying Senna for the journey. An epic road trip, then, right? Hmm. Well. France is pretty big and sitting in traffic is sitting in traffic no matter what car you're in, so it takes the same amount of time in a £1m hypercar as a £10,000 supermini. But hey, it's our first go in a Senna on the road. So there are things to tell you.

Like it's loud. I know right? Who'd have guessed? The Senna has a largely bare carbonfibre interior, including fixed back seats, which have some controls incorporated into them, cleverly. A little carpet makes quite a big difference, but shorn of so much insulation, the overriding noise on the road is not the engine, but the ride. On country roads with loose bits, gravel pings up like you're sitting in a race car, before getting trapped in the bodywork's nooks and crannies.


It's also a wide car, but these are the two least habitable things about it. The optional glass door panels - being specified by 90% of Senna owners, rather than the 30% that McLaren estimated - make rolling into toll booths around tight car parks way less terrifying than it'd otherwise be. They're not much use once you're up to speed, but you can see kerb edges out of them when manoeuvring. There's a powerful air-con system, too (only McLaren's press dept have specced a Senna without it), so even though there's plenty of glasswork and it's 30 degrees outside, the cabin stays pleasingly civilised. Some occupants thought there was a bit too much sunshine radiating through the roof panel, but my baldy heed didn't mind it.

Tell you what, though, the only bit of the window that opens, ostensibly to collect tickets through, is very small. On a long journey on toll roads, it'd be worth getting a windscreen tag. And that, my friends, is why you come here: sound consumer advice. There's not much of a boot, either, incidentally.

But to drive on the road? It's relatively civilised. Left in automatic, the seven-speed twin clutch box tries to lug things out, using the latent torque of the 4.0-litre, 800hp V8. Let it and you might see 20mpg. The ride is fine, too. Firm, obviously, but because there's the fancy, complicated, linked hydraulic springing as used in the Super Series, it has more compliance than you'd expect for such a track oriented car. And it steers with the kind of goodness that all McLarens do, because they retain a hydraulic rack that has a similar 2.0 turn speed to a Ferrari, but much less hyperactiveness around straight ahead.


Corners? Not many. You can tell there's brilliant stability even while rounding motorway slip roads, although our experience of the Senna remains, for now, those few laps in the hands of MB at Silverstone and DP at Estoril. More enlightening is spending time with the engineers in the development Sennas that accompanied Kyte's production car. Three cars that'll end up on McLaren's development fleet or the Pure fleet.

In a week that brings you another hypercar launch in the form of the Milan Red, so far shown as what looks like a scale model with no interior, it's a sobering reminder of the amount of effort that actually goes into producing a supercar or hypercar. There are tens of prototypes for the Senna, hundreds of millions of pounds have been spent and hundreds of thousands of miles have been pounded validating components and reliability. Today McLaren employs more quality engineers than it did engineers full stop when the MP4-12C was launched. How startups expect to break into this without the kind of backing that McLaren had is a mystery to me.

Ariel's Simon Saunders has it right when he says that, as a niche car company without massive resources, "you've got to do what the big players can't do or aren't interested in doing". With big backing from the off, McLaren is one of the big players. And it feels more established every day.





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andyj007

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305 posts

179 months

Saturday 4th August 2018
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they look so stupid and ugly with those wings.. and mismatch of poor design and panel integration no track - road trip or photo manipulation is gonna change that..

no excuse oh its a track car blah blah blah.. a clever group of people would be able to design something pretty and fast..
what an epic fail of missed opportunity..

how can anyone look at that and be genuinely proud to own such a mismatch of bits is beyond me..


Edited by andyj007 on Saturday 4th August 07:23

andyj007

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305 posts

179 months

Saturday 4th August 2018
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yes but once youve driven it a few times, got used to the speed, the novelty has worn off your left with the hideous maintenance and running cost and one god damn deformed ugly car.. hardly something to pull the sheets off and get all giddy.. therefore these cars are only going to be owned by those who see bragging rights as the number 1 priority.. lucky for us, there a little too expensive for the vast majority of the you tube buy a car, brag about it and flog it off, after about 1.5 weeks of ownership brigade..

the reason it annoys so much i guess, is that its so frustrating, they have the know how , skill and experience to make this same car, with the same performance but look absolutely beautiful..
i dont get this form function b**loks after watching the mclaren documentary, they seem to be stuck way up there own backsides.. a bit rudderless...
i would hazard a guess that the leading designer, senior management probably convinced themselves its looks absolutely beautiful,
only after the first public disclosure where 80% of the public were omg its so ugly did the form over function quotes come out..
its on par with the epic fail by Gerry McGovern, stuck in his own little world he thought the offset range rover numberplate was beautiful too.
and then tried to blame it on the type of numberplate.........what a berk..
as a previous poster said, you wouldnt see ferrari throwing something half baked like this out of their design office they have more class that that..
im not saying its a wonderful piece of technology, its just a very poor execution of the packaging that lets its down..
the potential was there for it to be poster car..
what a shame..

andyj007

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305 posts

179 months

Thursday 9th August 2018
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thanks for the personal attack on my company search out by a previous fan boy poster, who decided as he had no argument for my ugly statements for this car thought that hed resort to personal attacks on me and my company..

so i thought perhaps id got it wrong and that as according the this fan boy, i have no vision or style.
i spent half an hour trying to find a positive comment about the sennas looks, i could find none, in fact, nearly every journalist, motor review expert and even the company directors at mclaren declare the car ugly.
not i never said the car was not going to be fast, or well engineered just plain frustratingly ugly


"Even McLaren’s boss admits as much, the hope being that ‘dynamite on the track’ performance will mean love at first sight for the 500 buyers who swiped right and stumped up £750,000 without even knowing what they were getting.

I have to admit I struggled when I first saw the studio pictures, and I’m a McLaren fanboy. The Senna’s overbite looked all wrong, the wheels seemed too small for the arches, the split side windows and extra glass in the doors was a bit weird and that wing looked like it was the wrong scale for the car and mounted a metre forward of where it should have been"

https://www.carscoops.com/2017/12/op-ed-new-mclare...

theres hundreds more, but not one single piece or article saying how lovely and stunning design the senna is..

so i guess you could say i was in the majority thoughts of the car loving world, and that this fanboy who resorts to personal attacks, is exactly the type of clientele referred to in my previous post that this car is aimed at..


its a free world, people are entitled to their opinions, but resorting to personal insults just because one doesnt agree with someone opinions or one does not have any other argument to add to the conversion is sad.



andyj007

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305 posts

179 months

Thursday 9th August 2018
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fairplay on apology.. were all good.. and apologies from me too not my intention to cause offence..

lets love all cars and move on..




Edited by andyj007 on Thursday 9th August 21:31