RE: BBR unveils Super 200/220 power hikes for MX-5

RE: BBR unveils Super 200/220 power hikes for MX-5

Thursday 13th June 2019

BBR unveils Super 200/220 power hikes for MX-5

184hp in a new MX-5 is fun; now imagine that engine with 220hp...



Perhaps the greatest praise that can be heaped on the latest 2.0-litre MX-5 is that it feels like an old engine; it thrives on revs, responds eagerly and makes an authentic, appealing noise. Yet it also complies with all the latest emissions regs, and can achieve nearly 50mpg in a 1,000kg MX-5 - it's an absolute gem of a powerplant.

Now BBR, long-time tuners of Mazda's eponymous roadster, has worked its magic on the latest engine. Even working with the pre-facelift MX-5 Mk4 it's results were impressive; with a more inspiring base to work from this time, expectations are high. The new kits are the Super 200 and Super 220, as before available as DIY kits or drive in, drive out installations at BBR's Brackley HQ.


The 220 is of most interest; not just because it's the most powerful - though that's a valid claim to importance - but because it represents the first time an MX-5 engine has yielded more than 100hp per litre without internal mods. That's according to BBR's Neil McKay, and what he doesn't know about MX-5s would leave space on a post-it note.

Making a 220 involves a 4-into-1 stainless steel exhaust manifold, a StarChip ECU calibration, a cold air intake system including K&N filter and BBR's high performance cams, valve springs and retainers - no doubt turbos will come in time, but that sounds pretty good for now.

Peak power is a claimed 221bhp (224hp) at a dreamy 7,800rpm, with 4,350rpm required for the 166lb ft torque peak when tested with 99-octane fuel. BBR says the upgrade delivers "sparkling, easy to drive, accessible performance" that is unique to them. The Super 220 kit costs £2,235 plus VAT as a DIY pack, or £2,895 plus VAT for BBR to do the work.


For the Super 200, you can read as above but take away the cams, springs and retainers. That means 205hp and 165lb ft, delivered at 7,300rpm and 3,950rpm respectively. (Interestingly, both BBR models reach maximum torque at lower revs than the standard car, which needs 4,850rpm for 154lb ft.) BBR says the 200 offers "significant extra urge and throttle response, making for unforgettable, exhilarating motoring." It costs £1,245 plus VAT as a self-install, or £1,445 plus VAT as an in house BBR job.

As well as warranties for the work from one to three years, BBR has launched with these power packs a 2.5-inch centre exhaust section and choice of rear silencers for both models. No harm in making a bit more noise (and power) with your tuned MX-5, is there? Both Super 200 and 220 are available to purchase now, and yes, we're doing everything in our power to drive BBR's 220 demonstrator as soon as possible...


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VanquishRider

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The modern/new alternative to an S2000? Wonder how they would compare back to back? I'll let you tell me Pistonheads

VanquishRider

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steveb8189 said:
VanquishRider said:
The modern/new alternative to an S2000? Wonder how they would compare back to back? I'll let you tell me Pistonheads
Why not? A "modern alternative" doesn't need to be compared back to back. A car is a modern alternative to a horse and cart but that's not to say you'd pick the latter if you had a choice in 2019.

Comparison wise; both are high revving, light weight, two seater convertible sports cars with a 2.0 N/A reasonably economical engine. I can perfectly understand why you could consider this a modern alternative to an S2000. I've had an S2000 and wouldn't buy one again and likewise never buy one of these - another similarity!
I would buy another one. But it would have to be a 3rd generation one with stability control. As lifting off the throttle at well into three figures on a motorway curve should not induce an un-catchable (at least by me) spin.

VanquishRider

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300bhp/ton said:
VanquishRider said:
I would buy another one. But it would have to be a 3rd generation one with stability control. As lifting off the throttle at well into three figures on a motorway curve should not induce an un-catchable (at least by me) spin.
1. Stability control unlikely to save you or solve the issue.
2. Motorways have a 70mph limit, WTF are you doing 100mph+ on one?
3. Lift off Oversteer affects FWD and even AWD cars too
4. Lifting off at speed on a curve is driver error
I never said I was in the UK (or anywhere else) and if you can honestly say you have never exceed the speed limit on a UK Motorway then I think you should find a forum that dos not have the strap line of "speed matters".

And it was just before the curve. And it was an error. I don't intend to come off the throttle that sharp ever again. But I doubt my Porker or Vanquish would do the same nasty trick on me???

VanquishRider

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n4aat said:
VanquishRider said:
I would buy another one. But it would have to be a 3rd generation one with stability control. As lifting off the throttle at well into three figures on a motorway curve should not induce an un-catchable (at least by me) spin.
That was in 2007 on the north side of the M25 was it?
Nope.

VanquishRider

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StottyGTR said:
VanquishRider said:
300bhp/ton said:
VanquishRider said:
I would buy another one. But it would have to be a 3rd generation one with stability control. As lifting off the throttle at well into three figures on a motorway curve should not induce an un-catchable (at least by me) spin.
1. Stability control unlikely to save you or solve the issue.
2. Motorways have a 70mph limit, WTF are you doing 100mph+ on one?
3. Lift off Oversteer affects FWD and even AWD cars too
4. Lifting off at speed on a curve is driver error
I never said I was in the UK (or anywhere else) and if you can honestly say you have never exceed the speed limit on a UK Motorway then I think you should find a forum that dos not have the strap line of "speed matters".

And it was just before the curve. And it was an error. I don't intend to come off the throttle that sharp ever again. But I doubt my Porker or Vanquish would do the same nasty trick on me???
Ignore him he's talking bks.

That response wound me up and he's not even talking to me...
300 tons of it?

VanquishRider

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300bhp/ton said:
DoubleD said:
Have you never broken a speed limit?
Have you spun a car at well over 100mph on a motorway? That rather sounds like more than just speeding and rather irresponsible. Lucky they didn't kill someone.
Do you really think this motorway was packed with other cars at peak traffic? If you do, then you are even more warped than I thought you was. Do you think I expected it to under rotate the back axle just from lifting off in a straight line?

VanquishRider

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gigglebug said:
VanquishRider said:
Do you really think this motorway was packed with other cars at peak traffic? If you do, then you are even more warped than I thought you was. Do you think I expected it to under rotate the back axle just from lifting off in a straight line?
Not that I have any particular dog in this fight but why would the road have to be packed with other cars at peak traffic for you to consider it to be dangerous? All you would need is one other vehicle to be involved and I've seen the evidence first hand of where a car has ended up on the other side of a motorway, hurdling the barrier in the process, whilst it was doing significantly less than "well into three figures" so even the fact that your own side of the road might be completely clear isn't a guarantee of safety to others.
I totally agree, the faster you go the greater the risk. You can only mitigate the risk. The risk was low. It went wrong and we all walked away without any injury. The car did not. The Police; we had a long chat, breathalysed, passed and given a lift to the next junction. No charges.

A lesson learned.