Used Model X 90D/100D - real world range and reliability
Discussion
After what feels like months deliberating which 6/7 seater to buy, I keep coming back to a 6/7 seater MX (preferably a 6 seater), if it does what it says on paper. Whilst a SQ7/XC90 would be good, I fear the value of a big heavy Diesel will tank pretty badly in a few years and I'd be better off putting my eggs into a Tesla.
Budget only allows me to go 'used' which puts me right on the cusp of 90/100 cars with avg 25k on the clock. Dropping £60-70k on a car wouldn't normally cause me such sleepless nights, but I need reliability and range, and the internet appears to bar full of horror when it comes to these. So my questions, directed to actual owners:
1. The car will spend the vast majority of its time going up and down the motorway on either weekly 200 mile trips (sometimes 400 mile round trips). Luckily I can use the S/C network which is plentiful along the M40, but I'd prefer to not have to stop on route and just do destination recharging if possible. With that in mind what are your real world ranges of motorway journeys for a 90D or 100D, and how does it look in the depths of winter? I can charge at home off-road (I'll have a charger put in), so I can be fully charged when I leave.
2. 22's look great, but am I right in thinking it's -10% range for 22" equipped cars?
3. Buying used from Tesla seems very expensive (versus buying from another dealer), but I'm assuming (maybe wrongly) that if you buy from Tesla you have full cover/back-up for anything that may go wrong?
Also real-life pictures of this car shows it has marks, scratches, and scuffs all over it, do Tesla put these right, or are you buying as seen?!?
https://www.tesla.com/en_GB/used/5YJXDCE25HF051425
4. Battery degradation - I think that the 90D in reality will be touch & go as to what I need to achieve, so are there any battery checks I can perform on any used cars I go to view, to see condition and life expectancy?
5. 2017 AP2/AP2.5 - are all AP2 cars upgradable to AP2.5, or is there a cut off in 2017?
I'm sure I'll have more questions and apologies if these questions are basic, but everybody has to start somewhere.
TIA
Budget only allows me to go 'used' which puts me right on the cusp of 90/100 cars with avg 25k on the clock. Dropping £60-70k on a car wouldn't normally cause me such sleepless nights, but I need reliability and range, and the internet appears to bar full of horror when it comes to these. So my questions, directed to actual owners:
1. The car will spend the vast majority of its time going up and down the motorway on either weekly 200 mile trips (sometimes 400 mile round trips). Luckily I can use the S/C network which is plentiful along the M40, but I'd prefer to not have to stop on route and just do destination recharging if possible. With that in mind what are your real world ranges of motorway journeys for a 90D or 100D, and how does it look in the depths of winter? I can charge at home off-road (I'll have a charger put in), so I can be fully charged when I leave.
2. 22's look great, but am I right in thinking it's -10% range for 22" equipped cars?
3. Buying used from Tesla seems very expensive (versus buying from another dealer), but I'm assuming (maybe wrongly) that if you buy from Tesla you have full cover/back-up for anything that may go wrong?
Also real-life pictures of this car shows it has marks, scratches, and scuffs all over it, do Tesla put these right, or are you buying as seen?!?
https://www.tesla.com/en_GB/used/5YJXDCE25HF051425
4. Battery degradation - I think that the 90D in reality will be touch & go as to what I need to achieve, so are there any battery checks I can perform on any used cars I go to view, to see condition and life expectancy?
5. 2017 AP2/AP2.5 - are all AP2 cars upgradable to AP2.5, or is there a cut off in 2017?
I'm sure I'll have more questions and apologies if these questions are basic, but everybody has to start somewhere.
TIA
Thanks for the replies guys - lots of great info and advice that really has opened my eyes a bit more, but sadly made MX ownership a more distant possibility.
You've pretty much nailed my suspicious that a 90D wouldn't suit (for range reasons) so I'll strike that out. The problem is it then puts me at the bottom end of the 100D market, where it's VERY slim pickings. It appears there are very few 100D's out there, and what there is are either high milage and/or 5seaters all with large price tags. If you move up a bit you are at 19/69 plates for only 5k or so less than brand new which makes no sense.
I was hoping some might pop up on the Tesla website, but apart from the red 90D that's been on there for weeks/months, not a bean to be seen. And now I know cosmetic damage isn't repaired, it seems the only security is for a warranty, and the PITA is you can't view the car until it's delivered.
There was this one at HRO: https://www.hrowen.co.uk/used-car-details/used-tes...
But at nearly £70k for a 17 plate car, I thought it was a tad expensive, yet ringing up I found it sold this morning, just a few days after appearing.
Oh well I'll keep looking.
Thanks again for the replies, it's much appreciated.
You've pretty much nailed my suspicious that a 90D wouldn't suit (for range reasons) so I'll strike that out. The problem is it then puts me at the bottom end of the 100D market, where it's VERY slim pickings. It appears there are very few 100D's out there, and what there is are either high milage and/or 5seaters all with large price tags. If you move up a bit you are at 19/69 plates for only 5k or so less than brand new which makes no sense.
I was hoping some might pop up on the Tesla website, but apart from the red 90D that's been on there for weeks/months, not a bean to be seen. And now I know cosmetic damage isn't repaired, it seems the only security is for a warranty, and the PITA is you can't view the car until it's delivered.
There was this one at HRO: https://www.hrowen.co.uk/used-car-details/used-tes...
But at nearly £70k for a 17 plate car, I thought it was a tad expensive, yet ringing up I found it sold this morning, just a few days after appearing.
Oh well I'll keep looking.
Thanks again for the replies, it's much appreciated.
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