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Adrian W

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Monday 22nd October 2007
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Starting to get confused with all the threads about who did what but!

Ferrari win in Oz get lots of points for Kimi and the team with an illegal aero part on the car, the FIA choose to turn a blind eye to it and say take it off and dont do it again.

Later in the season Mclaren get given details of what happened and the drawings, the FIA then fine them and take their constructors points away for having the information and decide this constitutes cheating, and still do nothing to Ferrari.

Then in the last race two teams cheat by breaking the fuel rules and the FIA say that's ok, but fine Mclaren for a tyre descrepancy in free practice.

Kimi (who i think is great) wins the WDC by 1 point, mainly due to the points he won in Australia at the biggining of the season.

Can someone please explain


Adrian W

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13,898 posts

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Monday 22nd October 2007
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GarrettMacD said:
flemke said:
If the FIA stewards hadn't demoted Alonso five places there, he would have won the title
If FA hadn't driven off the circuit at Fuji he would have won the title.
If LH hadn't driven into the world's smallest gravel trap at Shanghai he would have won the title.
If LH hadn't gone off at the Nurburgring he would have won the title.

Regardless of whether the FIA 'let' Ferrari win with an illegal car the fact remains that McLaren made a monumental mess of the season. To come away with absolutely sweet jack shit is quite remarkable, given the superiority of the car, the (sometimes) utter incompetence of other teams' race strategy and the biggest budget in the history of F1 ($400m has been quoted).

It should never have happened that coming into the last race of the season KR was still in with a shout for the title. I guess that's the price to pay when you don't (officially) have a number 1 and 2 driver, but $400m is a heavy price to pay for no return.
I know all of that, but my question was about cheating!

Adrian W

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13,898 posts

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Monday 22nd October 2007
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But did the best driver really win (even though i wanted Kimi to win) If FA had'nt been knocked back in Hungary he would be champ whetever the others had achieved. I dont think LH lost any points nor did Kimi.

Adrian W

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Tuesday 23rd October 2007
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I have always been a Ferrari fan, mainly because they are the only team to make the whole car (subcontractors accepted)it seems that everyone agrees that Ferrari have cheated.

Why can't the FIA see it?

I know the Ferrari issues are now long gone, however I really hope Ron Dennis goes the whole hog and gets the FIA into a courtroom regarding the fuel-temperature fiasco and gets as many issues as he can out in the open.

And I hope it won't be his swansong.