RE: SOTW: Honda Civic VTI Aerodeck

RE: SOTW: Honda Civic VTI Aerodeck

Friday 22nd February 2013

SOTW: Honda Civic VTI Aerodeck

Discussion of fast estates gets Shed looking for something suitably rapid and practical



Scrof’s ruminations on the future of the sporting wagon have conveniently coincided with someone deciding to blow the ballast tanks on this 1998 Civic Aerodeck.

Quirky mix of practicality and VTEC pace
Quirky mix of practicality and VTEC pace
There are two good reasons to buy this car. The first is that VTEC Hondas of any hue put a nice inky tick in the Shed speed requirement box. Some say that the 1.6 Civic VTi is actually a little bit quicker than the 1.8, courtesy of its lighter weight and lower gear ratios, but this 1.8 with its 167hp motor is still good for a solid eight-second 0-60 time and a terminal velocity of around 133mph. It will also cruise at a more relaxed rate of revs than the 1.6. Hooked up to the standard Torsen LSD it adds up to very acceptable launch action both off the line and out of bends.

The second reason is that Hondas are super-reliable. Honda owners routinely rate their steeds high in the big reliability/owner satisfaction surveys. Yes, we all know that ownership surveys are sometimes more about purchase validation than reality, but Honda’s consistently high placings in JD Power (currently fourth) and the Warranty Direct reliability tables (currently top, with a 10 per cent failure rate) didn’t come out of thin air. For comparison, that failure rate is seven per cent clear of second-placed Toyota, and 61 per cent clear of Land Rover in last place. For further comparison, Porsche stands at 39 per cent, BMW 41 per cent and Mercedes 45 per cent.

A classic 90s Japanese interior then...
A classic 90s Japanese interior then...
This Aerodeck has a goodly mileage on it but that excellent reliability record means that’s no reason not to expect plenty more of the same. The funny thing about mileage is that it’s hardly ever a problem to the owner, only to the tooth-sucking purchaser. All you have to do is adopt the mindset of the contented vendor and you’re laughing.

Honda’s part-leather perches of this era are traditionally a bit flat, but the bolsters will give you some lateral location. This car has every last feature listed from sunblinds to child locks but doesn't have a whole lot of information about service history or suchlike. A proper inspection is called for then and hopefully you’ll have very little to complain about, because so very little goes wrong in Civics.

When VTEC kicks in this is the view they'll get
When VTEC kicks in this is the view they'll get
Engine check warning lights and intermittent starting could be EGR valves or TDC sensors on the way out, or a dicky distributor – they can be picked up for about £175 on Fleabay and are easy to fit. Older VTEC engines will use a little oil; valve seals eventually wear out. Any maintenance you may carry out there will be well rewarded by the addictive high-rev VTEC rasp which (we are happy to report) comes in much less progressively on these earlier cars. Cambelts only need changing every 70,000 miles, though of course nobody would chastise you for doing it more often.

In Shed’s opinion, sunroofs are the invention of Satan. Old Aerodeck ones need to be kept greased or kept shut. It’s an estate, but don’t expect to cram wardrobes in the back: it’s only 835 litres with the back seats folded down, which is about half what you’ll get in something like an E-Class Merc – but that is literally two classes up from the Civic. Golfists will be pleased to hear that they can fit their sticks in widthwise without having to resort to the traditional post-round club-bending.  

The information on this car is scarce but faint heart never won a fair maiden...

 


Original advert reproduced here:

5 Doors, Manual, Estate, Petrol, 103,252 miles, Metallic Blue, MOT-12-2013. "ALL MAJOR DEBIT/CREDIT CARDS ACCEPTED", """SPECIAL INTERNET LAST PRICE OFFER""", ""PLEASE PHONE FOR AN APPOINTMENT""", LONG MOT, TAX, SERVICE HISTORY, ABS, Adjustable seats, Adjustable steering column/wheel, Air conditioning, Alloy wheels, Anti theft system, Central locking, Child locks, Colour coding - Body, Driver airbag, Electric mirrors, Electric windows, Electric sunroof, Foglights, Head restraints, Headlight washers, Folding rear seats, Heated screen, Leather seats, Immobiliser, Metallic paintwork, Power assisted...

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TORQ

Original Poster:

188 posts

229 months

Friday 22nd February 2013
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Sorry but (to me) this is so god-awful in every way!

mull1974

18 posts

167 months

Friday 22nd February 2013
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Not the most inspired choice of shed, always looked like a pensioners car. However with that engine under the bonnet I guess it could provide some cheap fun

ninos

65 posts

205 months

Friday 22nd February 2013
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Finally, a car I've recommended for SOTW a few times to say the least although not this one. Fantastic little cars, great power although a bit thirsty, ultra reliable and fun to drive. Good choice of she'd this week and a nice change from the usual barges.

Valgar

850 posts

135 months

Friday 22nd February 2013
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Oh I recognise this, I posted it in bargain basement! Honestly, I just bought a Scooby Turbo, I think if this was around a week ago I would have looked at it, I'm already missing my Legacy estate and can't get bugger all in the scoob.

Loplop

1,937 posts

185 months

Friday 22nd February 2013
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The ONLY thing MB Civics are good for is breaking.

Completely different to the EK (1.6 VTi) in that the chassis is shared with the Rover 45.

I'll have wishbones all round on an EK4 please.

Nuppy

95 posts

162 months

Friday 22nd February 2013
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No
That is all... getmecoat

dirtbiker

1,189 posts

166 months

Friday 22nd February 2013
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Haha - "post-round club-bending" - love it!

Do like a fast estate and this ticks a lot of boxes, shame the interior is so dreary!

Dr G

15,175 posts

242 months

Friday 22nd February 2013
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I've always rather liked these, good shed smile

The Don of Croy

5,998 posts

159 months

Friday 22nd February 2013
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Wonder if the engine will transplant into the MR2...?

And why are sunroof's not loved? How else do you transport skirting boards back from the DIY shed?

rossub

4,442 posts

190 months

Friday 22nd February 2013
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Reading the article, I was expecting to see 160k+ miles on it. 103k miles is perfectly fine for its age.

Krikkit

26,527 posts

181 months

Friday 22nd February 2013
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I'm with shed on this one - LSD'd and with a dollop of horse power for comical roundabout attacking, completely against the usual owner character (I always see old biffers pottering about in these) and glass on the back for better tip runs.

X5TUU

11,939 posts

187 months

Friday 22nd February 2013
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shed fail of the most EPIC proportions

maybe's for the blue rinse brigade

GranCab

2,902 posts

146 months

Friday 22nd February 2013
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I'm guessing the dealer took it in part-ex for some other god-awful barge ... sucks through teeth ... not much call for these mate ... I can only offer you 250 quid for it ...

phototropic

24 posts

134 months

Friday 22nd February 2013
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At least its a new kind of shed - last week everyone said SOTW was repeating itself.

RussH91

363 posts

160 months

Friday 22nd February 2013
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Just about to scrap a 1.5 vtec identical to this minus aerodeck skirts. I thought it was great reasonably quick for a pensioners car. But the rear callipers needed replacing and the clutch. Although it was a hand me down and had put 4 new Dunlop's on it. Didn't bother repairing as using the vtec I seemed to be putting as much oil in as fuel.
Great little car did 6k in it in 3 months. And it only ever broke down at the gate at home.

B'stard Child

28,398 posts

246 months

Friday 22nd February 2013
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No looker is it??

Hellbound

2,500 posts

176 months

Friday 22nd February 2013
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As I mentioned in another thread, I owned a pirates black VTI-S Aerodeck. It was ugly and slow. You're really pushing it with the whole 'fast wagon' Jalopnik obsession with one of these.


dukebox9reg

1,571 posts

148 months

Friday 22nd February 2013
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I nearly bought one of these when I was 18 (1.6 Vtec)only a few moons ago lol and ended up buying a Fiat Bravo 1.4 12V with a HGT kit on it in the end. Always regretted it and still itch for one as it was 'the one that got away' but the insurance was the killer on one of those at 18 leading the way to the Bravo.

opieoilman

4,408 posts

236 months

Friday 22nd February 2013
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A mate of mine bought one of these a couple of months ago. He's loving the VTEC and it's the quickest way he can afford to get his boards to the beach.

MX7

7,902 posts

174 months

Friday 22nd February 2013
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Does it come in beige?