Does failing to inform DVLA of a medical condition.........

Does failing to inform DVLA of a medical condition.........

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NoNeed

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15,137 posts

213 months

Tuesday 2nd April 2013
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Void/cancel insurance cover?

Topic has come up on another forum and I think I read here that the third party aspect would remain in tact.



Thanks in advance.



and would this be considered driving without a licence.

Edited by NoNeed on Tuesday 2nd April 21:01

Du1point8

21,916 posts

205 months

Tuesday 2nd April 2013
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pretty sure its a criminal record and up to £1000 fine...

Someone I know looked it up a few years ago.

NoNeed

Original Poster:

15,137 posts

213 months

Tuesday 2nd April 2013
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Du1point8 said:
pretty sure its a criminal record and up to £1000 fine...

Someone I know looked it up a few years ago.
Thanks but would it nullify insurance cover if you drove or does the cover remain intact?

Du1point8

21,916 posts

205 months

Tuesday 2nd April 2013
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NoNeed said:
Du1point8 said:
pretty sure its a criminal record and up to £1000 fine...

Someone I know looked it up a few years ago.
Thanks but would it nullify insurance cover if you drove or does the cover remain intact?
At complete speculation until Loon appears, I guess you would be severely ass raped by your own insurance company and would be chased for costs, but 3rd party coverage for the person you hit will still pay out.


Durzel

12,668 posts

181 months

Tuesday 2nd April 2013
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On the basis that insurers seem to either flat out refuse cover for any disabilities or medical conditions that would need to be reported to the DVLA, or ask about them in the application form, I'd say it's a safe bet that it would void an existing policy/claim if it came to light. Best to wait for Loon and co to confirm though.

Pontoneer

3,643 posts

199 months

Wednesday 3rd April 2013
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I think it would be classed as failure to disclose a material fact that would have had a bearing on them accepting you as a risk .

The only way it might not cancel cover would be if a condition ( say for example epilepsy ) was undiagnosed when you took out cover , and only came to light when the driver took their first ever seizure at the wheel . Similar would apply to the likes of undiagnosed heart conditions etc .

In that hypothetical situation , there would have been no failure to disclose and insurance would remain valid , although condition would then have to be disclosed .

Basically , as soon as you know about it , you should tell them .

covboy

2,593 posts

187 months

Wednesday 3rd April 2013
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Is there a definitive “list” of what should be reported to the DVLA, or is it down to the medical people advising patient that certain conditions are reportable?

Dwight VanDriver

6,583 posts

257 months

Wednesday 3rd April 2013
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covboy said:
Is there a definitive “list” of what should be reported to the DVLA, or is it down to the medical people advising patient that certain conditions are reportable?
Road Traffic Act 1988 Sections 92 to 96 with 94 in particular.

dvd

TwigtheWonderkid

45,819 posts

163 months

Wednesday 3rd April 2013
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Durzel said:
On the basis that insurers seem to either flat out refuse cover for any disabilities or medical conditions that would need to be reported to the DVLA,
Really. I know a few people with disabilities and so long as DVLA have been made aware and have granted a licence to drive, Insurers charge no extra. I think the Disability Discrimination Act 1997 means that insurers cannot charge extra so long as DVLA are aware and have granted a licence, unless they have statistical evidence that certain disabilities increased risk.

In the case of a notifiable condition not being advised to DVLA, then of course that's a different matter.

Insurers will have to pay tp claim initially but if the condition was such that DVLA would have refused a licence, then a reclaim of outlay from the policyholder would be justified.

speedking31

3,683 posts

149 months

Wednesday 3rd April 2013
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If you're obese you have more chance of having a heart attack, with the probability also increasing with age. But that's not notifiable. Too many variables and too few dependent accident claims for it to be statistically relevant IMO.

Durzel

12,668 posts

181 months

Wednesday 3rd April 2013
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TwigtheWonderkid said:
Really. I know a few people with disabilities and so long as DVLA have been made aware and have granted a licence to drive, Insurers charge no extra. I think the Disability Discrimination Act 1997 means that insurers cannot charge extra so long as DVLA are aware and have granted a licence, unless they have statistical evidence that certain disabilities increased risk.

In the case of a notifiable condition not being advised to DVLA, then of course that's a different matter.

Insurers will have to pay tp claim initially but if the condition was such that DVLA would have refused a licence, then a reclaim of outlay from the policyholder would be justified.
Fair enough. There are a few websites that do online quotes that exclude medical conditions/disabilities that would need to be reported to the DVLA, but I guess that's just because the online quote makes certain assumptions for expediency. I didn't mean to infer that these companies wouldn't (or would be allowed not to) offer insurance at all for people with these conditions/disabilities.

Prof Beard

6,669 posts

240 months

Wednesday 3rd April 2013
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Mrs Beard had a pacemaker fitted in November (bradycardia - slow heart/electrical block). She was told not to drive for six weeks and we dutifully reported this to the DVLA and then the insurers. DVLA were happy for her to resume driving after the six weeks, as were the insurers - no effect on premiums.