Health and safety Nazis!
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The company I work for has decided that because an idiot cut himself with a Stanley knife....they are now BANNED completely, then they decided that it would be mandatory to wear gloves while at work!!! followed up with "no latex gloves because someone "may" be latex intolerant"......Ladders are BANNED! Rigger Boots are BANNED.....I could go on!
Am I wrong to think that the Health and safety at work act 1974 is LAW but that what it contains is just ADVICE!
They are driving me up the frigging wall!
Am I wrong to think that the Health and safety at work act 1974 is LAW but that what it contains is just ADVICE!
They are driving me up the frigging wall!
The vast majority of things hailed as ELF N SAFETY aren't actually required in any way at all.
http://www.hse.gov.uk/myth/
http://www.hse.gov.uk/myth/
Taita said:
The vast majority of things hailed as ELF N SAFETY aren't actually required in any way at all.
http://www.hse.gov.uk/myth/
Reading some of these I almost feel sorry for the HSE. What utter rot people come up with clearly just to avoid being arsed to do something or help someone. http://www.hse.gov.uk/myth/
We have to wear safety glass here all the time, now the only way I'm going to get an eye injury when walking around the factory is if someone runs up and pokes me in the eye, but it's all in the name of health and safety, rather than just letting people use their common sense to work out when they actually need to be wearing glasses.
The railway is just as bad,
I was b
ked twice on my last project for not wearing safety glasses,
Once when going for a piss and another when eating my pack up.
The place is riddled with morons enforcing this crap as it's an easy career move and no one can argue with health and safety can they.
I was b
ked twice on my last project for not wearing safety glasses, Once when going for a piss and another when eating my pack up.
The place is riddled with morons enforcing this crap as it's an easy career move and no one can argue with health and safety can they.
Most of my work is in the retail refurb sector and the company im contracting to at the moment (and many of the other big companies) have a 'Full PPE to be worn at all times' policy which is gloves, glasses, toe caps, hi viz and helmets.
There are times where you feel quite ridiculous especially on the live stores during the night shift where i could be in the baked bean aisle setting something out with a very dangerous permanent marker pen and a set of drawings fully PPE'd up right next to a bean stacker whos has got zero PPE on.
Step ladders are banned, no rigger boots, a ladder permit system in place, 2 set of hot works permits to fill out even for one small cut with a recip saw, god knows how many risk assessments and method statements....the list goes on and on and all the while im still expected to make sure the work is done on time!
There was one particular retailer i done work for who brought in a PPE policy of gloves, glassed, hi viz, boots and helmet but had to be said retailer issued PPE. Imagine the looks on the contractors faces when i had to tell them you cant come on site with that helmet because its the wrong colour or you cant come on site because your glasses are the wrong style. I st you not.
There are times where you feel quite ridiculous especially on the live stores during the night shift where i could be in the baked bean aisle setting something out with a very dangerous permanent marker pen and a set of drawings fully PPE'd up right next to a bean stacker whos has got zero PPE on.
Step ladders are banned, no rigger boots, a ladder permit system in place, 2 set of hot works permits to fill out even for one small cut with a recip saw, god knows how many risk assessments and method statements....the list goes on and on and all the while im still expected to make sure the work is done on time!
There was one particular retailer i done work for who brought in a PPE policy of gloves, glassed, hi viz, boots and helmet but had to be said retailer issued PPE. Imagine the looks on the contractors faces when i had to tell them you cant come on site with that helmet because its the wrong colour or you cant come on site because your glasses are the wrong style. I s
t you not.matlee said:
2 set of hot works permits to fill out even for one small cut with a recip saw, god knows how many risk assessments and method statements.
Hot work usually = grinding, welding, burning etc.If you can put your finger on it(obviously a bad idea with a recip saw
) it's not hot work.daveparry said:
My point is, as I said to my manager...The HSE Act 1974 is the Law, BUT what the Act contains is simply guidance and advice on how the Law is interperated to which he hid behind that old favourite "company policy"
Easier for you to take that view, your not the one who will be fked over by the HSE when some idiot hurts himself. hidetheelephants said:
matlee said:
2 set of hot works permits to fill out even for one small cut with a recip saw, god knows how many risk assessments and method statements.
Hot work usually = grinding, welding, burning etc.If you can put your finger on it(obviously a bad idea with a recip saw
) it's not hot work.
REALIST123 said:
daveparry said:
My point is, as I said to my manager...The HSE Act 1974 is the Law, BUT what the Act contains is simply guidance and advice on how the Law is interperated to which he hid behind that old favourite "company policy"
Easier for you to take that view, your not the one who will be fked over by the HSE when some idiot hurts himself. BIANCO said:
I hate it to it must be costing the economy millions, all jobs take twice as long and so cost twice as much. Whatever happend to common sense and if you do hurt yourself it’s your own fault.
The aggressive marketing built up around no win no fee, as contributed to the current situation, this also creates the scenario where blanket policies are put place over PPE etc. as an aside to blanket policies, interestingly In the place I currently work a red high vis seems to make you invulnerable and therefore not require safety footwear or bump hat - which if an operative, team leader or supervisor did it would result in being sent home that day followed by informal disciplinary for staff / final warning of cancellation for agency staff. the bump hat stuff is b
ks as if a pallet full of of product fell off the racking even a rescue helmet wouldn;t save your head -but it;s a blanekt policy in the racking, the safety shoe stuff is important given the number of pallet trucks ( both hand and powered) and various flavours of forklift running around, not to mention dock levellers, pallet inverters etc etc ... The costs of not using safe systems of work and proper techniques are far greater than the costs of doing so.
REALIST123 said:
daveparry said:
My point is, as I said to my manager...The HSE Act 1974 is the Law, BUT what the Act contains is simply guidance and advice on how the Law is interperated to which he hid behind that old favourite "company policy"
Easier for you to take that view, your not the one who will be fked over by the HSE when some idiot hurts himself. GG89 said:
The vast majority of HSE is utter utter bks.
Makes me even more thankful to be self employed.
If u carry public liability insurance you may find yourself to lot more health and safety requirements than you bargain for. Also, bear in mind, that legally speaking you carry the same responsibilities to the health and safety of those who suffer the consequences of your actions and inaction as you would as an employee acting on behalf of your employer.ks. Makes me even more thankful to be self employed.
santona1937 said:
To all those folks complaining about HSE. Will you sign a contract releasing you employer from ANY responsibility for any accident or injury that may occur to you at work? And agree that under no conditions will you make a claim for any such injury?
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