Is there a better vacuum than a Numatic / Henry?
Discussion
We've got George, like Charles only 'he' can spray cleaner and has a heavy duty bush on the wet head - handy for pet 'spills'.
Worth noting though, they're a pretty old fashioned design, you've got to virtually completely strip and rebuild the things between wet and dry modes. It only takes a few mins to go dry to wet, but they other way requires some cleaning and drying time or it can get a bit messy / smelly and you have a pile of stuff to store.
Worth noting though, they're a pretty old fashioned design, you've got to virtually completely strip and rebuild the things between wet and dry modes. It only takes a few mins to go dry to wet, but they other way requires some cleaning and drying time or it can get a bit messy / smelly and you have a pile of stuff to store.
Edited by P-Jay on Monday 3rd February 15:27
Get a Charles, and a cheap bojack toolkit from ebay. It takes ages to dry the hose and poles out inbetween wet and dry, so have 1 hose for wet and 1 for dry. I got 2 with my George and it's invaluable!
Quick wipe out of the bucket before putting the bag and filter back in and job done! Keeps it clean too. I only use my George for wet car related tasks (sucked the custard out of a blocked 1.6 vauxhall sump breather the other day) and it's filthy because I don't clean it after every use...
Quick wipe out of the bucket before putting the bag and filter back in and job done! Keeps it clean too. I only use my George for wet car related tasks (sucked the custard out of a blocked 1.6 vauxhall sump breather the other day) and it's filthy because I don't clean it after every use...
Dysons s
t themselves if you suck half as much up them as a Henry.
Watch out for the autosave ones (with the hi/lo rocker and LED light). The PCB controlling it is in full view of the motor and gets coated in carbon dust, which then conducts electricity and shorts the board out, killing henry.
Re-wiring the switch to take out the hi/lo sorts it out (just makes it run on high all the time, which is what most people do with a hi/lo henry!), or put a new PCB in for £15. Have got so many cheap henries due to that issue!
t themselves if you suck half as much up them as a Henry.Watch out for the autosave ones (with the hi/lo rocker and LED light). The PCB controlling it is in full view of the motor and gets coated in carbon dust, which then conducts electricity and shorts the board out, killing henry.
Re-wiring the switch to take out the hi/lo sorts it out (just makes it run on high all the time, which is what most people do with a hi/lo henry!), or put a new PCB in for £15. Have got so many cheap henries due to that issue!
I've seen an equivalent Henry/Charles at Screwfix, seems to be more power (1400W vs 1200W) and better airflow, 90litres per second vs Numatic 45 per second
http://www.screwfix.com/p/titan-ttb431vac-1400w-40...
Or is that st?
http://www.screwfix.com/p/titan-ttb431vac-1400w-40...
Or is that s
t? It'll do the job, but the dry filter will clog up faster due to it's design.
For wet pickup though it'll do just as good a job, and be more disposable should the worse happen!
I had an Earlex Combivac for years until it failed after 8 years, don't know if you can still get them though. They are LOUD though (louder than a charles/george, and they aint quiet!)
For wet pickup though it'll do just as good a job, and be more disposable should the worse happen!
I had an Earlex Combivac for years until it failed after 8 years, don't know if you can still get them though. They are LOUD though (louder than a charles/george, and they aint quiet!)
beko1987 said:
Dysons st themselves if you suck half as much up them as a Henry.
Watch out for the autosave ones (with the hi/lo rocker and LED light). The PCB controlling it is in full view of the motor and gets coated in carbon dust, which then conducts electricity and shorts the board out, killing henry.
Re-wiring the switch to take out the hi/lo sorts it out (just makes it run on high all the time, which is what most people do with a hi/lo henry!), or put a new PCB in for £15. Have got so many cheap henries due to that issue!
I re tiled my bathroom and sucked up all the broken bits of old tiles, plaster etc with Henry, try that with a Dyson ! t themselves if you suck half as much up them as a Henry.Watch out for the autosave ones (with the hi/lo rocker and LED light). The PCB controlling it is in full view of the motor and gets coated in carbon dust, which then conducts electricity and shorts the board out, killing henry.
Re-wiring the switch to take out the hi/lo sorts it out (just makes it run on high all the time, which is what most people do with a hi/lo henry!), or put a new PCB in for £15. Have got so many cheap henries due to that issue!
andy-xr said:
I've seen an equivalent Henry/Charles at Screwfix, seems to be more power (1400W vs 1200W) and better airflow, 90litres per second vs Numatic 45 per second
http://www.screwfix.com/p/titan-ttb431vac-1400w-40...
Or is that st?
Not sure it's worth it, the suction on our George is more than adequate, you'll hear all sort of stories of the sorts of things they'll pick up, but one thing I know for certain is that with the little valve on the tube closed my wife cannot operate the thing, too powerful and she's a Nurse on a Stroke Ward who spends her days shifting about fat old men (and others of course).http://www.screwfix.com/p/titan-ttb431vac-1400w-40...
Or is that s
t? Anyway absolute power isn't their USP, it's they're very very tough and have cute names of course.
beko1987 said:
Dysons st themselves if you suck half as much up them as a Henry.
Watch out for the autosave ones (with the hi/lo rocker and LED light). The PCB controlling it is in full view of the motor and gets coated in carbon dust, which then conducts electricity and shorts the board out, killing henry.
Re-wiring the switch to take out the hi/lo sorts it out (just makes it run on high all the time, which is what most people do with a hi/lo henry!), or put a new PCB in for £15. Have got so many cheap henries due to that issue!
I've got one of those. t themselves if you suck half as much up them as a Henry.Watch out for the autosave ones (with the hi/lo rocker and LED light). The PCB controlling it is in full view of the motor and gets coated in carbon dust, which then conducts electricity and shorts the board out, killing henry.
Re-wiring the switch to take out the hi/lo sorts it out (just makes it run on high all the time, which is what most people do with a hi/lo henry!), or put a new PCB in for £15. Have got so many cheap henries due to that issue!
It's under warranty but I'll keep an eye on it.
OllieC said:
I have both a Henry and a George, and they are excellent, tough as old boots.
I think the general consensus is that Dysons etc probably suck up more stuff, but are nowhere near as reliable, and cost more to boot.
This is only for about the first 2 hours, after that dysons seem fairly useless. we had 2 and gave up on this after the second failed after a year or so. 3 years on with a Henry and it's still as good as day one. Just make sure you get decent bags for it, not the fleabay cheapness I think the general consensus is that Dysons etc probably suck up more stuff, but are nowhere near as reliable, and cost more to boot.
OllieC said:
I re tiled my bathroom and sucked up all the broken bits of old tiles, plaster etc with Henry, try that with a Dyson !
I have, and continue to ues the Dyson like this, wood burner, plaster, brick dust wet or dry. The old DC01 original is till going strong, and I wouldnt change it for anything. My experence of henry's by comparison is not so good as others here...K
I see alot of dysons, and the number 1 reason for them being st is they have been used for palster dust, which has coated every internal seal and surface in plaster dust.
I've lost count of the number of times I've taken a machine in for refurb, and the owner thinks I've swapped it for another machine due to the performance when finished. Had one come back to me as it had been rubbish for years, I fix it and when she used it it pulled so much out of their carpet it clogged and shat its belt! Put a new belt on and told her to take it easy for a while until it caught back up again!
However, I've seen Henrys that have been used bagless with a tear in the filter, that's not pretty either!
PCB affected Henrys seem to be from mid 2010 to late 2012 after comparing PCB's from different models
The new PCB's have solved the issue by a redesign (although not proven as theyve not been about long enough and I sold the ones I have replaced quite quickly)
t is they have been used for palster dust, which has coated every internal seal and surface in plaster dust.I've lost count of the number of times I've taken a machine in for refurb, and the owner thinks I've swapped it for another machine due to the performance when finished. Had one come back to me as it had been rubbish for years, I fix it and when she used it it pulled so much out of their carpet it clogged and shat its belt! Put a new belt on and told her to take it easy for a while until it caught back up again!
However, I've seen Henrys that have been used bagless with a tear in the filter, that's not pretty either!
PCB affected Henrys seem to be from mid 2010 to late 2012 after comparing PCB's from different models
The new PCB's have solved the issue by a redesign (although not proven as theyve not been about long enough and I sold the ones I have replaced quite quickly)
Henry is a truly robust machine but works best on hard floors like any purely suction cleaner. For carpets an agitator (no, not Bob Crow) is required so I bought this Airobrush accessory and that works a treat. Make sure the bag isn't too full and use 'Hi' setting and all those irritating little bits of fluff are gathered up properly. We had a Panasonic bagless Dyson lookalike once and it kept clogging its filters. It died when I vacuumed up soot and the carbon shorted the commutator segments. A spectacular burn out followed!
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