RE: Volkswagen Golf GTI facelift: Review

RE: Volkswagen Golf GTI facelift: Review

Monday 17th April 2017

2017 Volkswagen Golf GTI Facelift (Mk7.5) | Review

Whisper it, but the Golf R may not be the best fast Golf around...



Time flies when you're having fun, or so we're always told. For fast VW Golfs it means that nearly four years have passed, along with the 300hp flagship, a 40th birthday present and a Nurburgring record breaker, since a 'regular' GTI has appeared in a PH review. That was back towards the end of 2013, when the then-new Mk7 Golf GTI squared up to the M135i (remember that?) and the original Mercedes A45 AMG.

Crucially for the sake of this story it was a GTI Performance version too, adding the larger brake discs, red calipers, 10 additional horsepower and the VAQ system that aims to mimic the effect of an LSD. Very good it was too. Now that the standard GTI has been replaced so the Performance pack has too, which is the car you see here.

Still a smart looking car, isn't it? The 'Mk7.5' is hardly a transformative facelift - you expected one? - but it's done enough in enhancing the Golf's look to make it appear fresh. With the usual GTI embellishments it's distinctive enough for those in the know to spot but still restrained and subdued in that traditional Golf way. If it ain't broke and so on.


The key mechanical change is in liberating another 15hp from the 2.0-litre EA888 turbo for the GTI Performance, taking the total to 245hp (it's up 10hp as standard, to 230hp). However, given this engine has now been offered in the MQB cars with 220, 230, 245, 265, 280, 290, 300 and 310hp (please shout if there are more), it's becoming very difficult to detect any discernible differences. Perhaps this car is a fraction stronger through its mid range (torque is up 15lb ft) and a mite more willing at the top end, but if you had said this still had 230hp it would be eminently believable. Otherwise the Performance add-ons are the same, with the brakes and VAQ the notable inclusions.

What a pleasure it is to drive a hot hatchback with a manual gearbox and front-wheel drive. Yes, it's an old formula now. Yes, four-wheel drive would make it quicker 'whatever the weather'. And yes, a DSG would make it faster still. That it remains such a satisfying combination though hopefully means there's still life in it yet. The pedals are well placed, the golf ball gear topper a joy to hold and the throw precise and quick, if a little light. The appeal of changing gears for yourself means you do it for fun, aided in this case by a good gearbox and that engine, which is willing both to draw on its mid-range reserves and be held at higher revs.

In fact that behaviour is indicative of the GTI's general demeanour - it just suits, everywhere. It's entirely happy to pootle around town or mooch down the motorway, yet equally adept when driven with what journalists might once have called gusto. In fact it's really good fun when you're haring around like you're playing GTI Club in a Mk1 (an arcade game well worth experiencing). It's poised and balanced but also responsive to your inputs, tightening its line obediently with a lifted throttle or trailed brake. Perhaps the ESC Sport threshold is a little strict, but then this is still a VW. The ride is always super composed too, the adaptive dampers' breadth of ability making them feel like an option box worth ticking.


The VAQ front axle remains a curious device, effective in the end but still not quite as confidence inspiring as a true LSD. Having tried other installations it feels to particularly benefit from more focused rubber than the Bridgestone Potenza 5001s fitted as standard here, the aggressive way in which it diverts power then able to be harnessed. Certainly it's better than an open differential, and worth having the Performance Pack for, though it still required a brutal style to exploit. Keep your foot in and the wheelspin will subside. Honest...

While a Golf GTI has never been a balls-out hot hatch, it would have been nice to see this latest car incorporate a little more of what made the Clubsport S so satisfying. Perhaps there was deemed little need, the CS appealing to a group of enthusiasts who would never consider a standard car and buyers of the latter content with the range of talents already offered.


That VW focused on the improved equipment, efficiency and connectivity of this latest Golf facelift should tell you much about the verdict of this GTI against the last. It's been moved on in certain areas without ever feeling markedly different. Arguably it didn't need to be. The interior is a particular improvement though, with lovely new displays, an improved touchscreen nav and another step up in perceived material quality. 'Really, really nice' is probably damning it with faint praise - hopefully you get the gist. Plus the fact VW knows, and you know, that impressions on the inside count as much - if not more than - driving satisfaction. Where would you rather sit: a Golf or a Focus ST?

There's a temptation to call this update complacent from VW, that it's an arrogantly modest refresh of a car that didn't need it. That would be wrong though; it feels sufficiently enhanced and improved to feel like a new car, even if those significant tweaks are inside. To drive it's still very good too, particularly with the Performance pack fitted - certainly if it stays as the c. £1,000 option it was before, then it will be well worth having. So while there may be more exciting hot hatches around, and certainly cheaper ones, it's a struggle to think of any with such a broad and appealing range of talents. It will surprise precisely nobody, but the GTI remains a great car.


SPECIFICATION | 2017 VOLKSWAGEN GOLF GTI PERFORMANCE (MK7.5)
Engine:
1,984cc 4-cyl turbocharged
Transmission: 6-speed manual/7-speed (DSG) optional (6-speed DSG for regular GTI), front-wheel drive
Power (hp): 245@4,700-6,200rpm
Torque (lb ft): 273@1,600-4,300rpm
0-62mph: 6.2seconds
Top speed: 155mph (limited)
Weight: 1,387kg (to EU, with 75kg driver), +28kg for DSG, +30kg for 5-door
MPG: 42.8-43.5 (44.8 DSG)
CO2: From 148g/km (up to 150g/km depending on wheels, 144g/km for DSG)
Price: TBC





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ZX10R NIN

Original Poster:

27,598 posts

125 months

Monday 17th April 2017
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The price would make my decision as there really aren't any bad hot hatches out there, for me the GTI has always been a bit to much for what it is but it's a decent car now the Meganes gone I'd probably take the ST but this ticks a lot of boxes for people, decent drive badge etc & probably good lease/pcp deals.

Wish

1,267 posts

249 months

Monday 17th April 2017
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If only vw would build the bloody thing. I've got one on order. Well when I say order the dealer is holding my £1,000 against one of its allocation.

Come on VW get the production line rolling.



Helicopter123

8,831 posts

156 months

Monday 17th April 2017
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ZX10R NIN said:
The price would make my decision as there really aren't any bad hot hatches out there, for me the GTI has always been a bit to much for what it is but it's a decent car now the Meganes gone I'd probably take the ST but this ticks a lot of boxes for people, decent drive badge etc & probably good lease/pcp deals.
Discounts of around £4k are already readily available on the 7.5 Golf GTi so in essence not really bad vfm.

The bigger problem is the more powerful, faster, better equipped R is only £4k more after discount...


hondansx

4,569 posts

225 months

Monday 17th April 2017
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I would like to see the lease deals versus the R. You see a lot of Rs around and GTIs are not as plentiful as they were once before. Makes me tend to think the R has become a no brainer financially. Let's face it it, the weather in the UK isn't perfect so the R will be the better car for the majority of the time.

I've noticed PH seems to have something against the R, whereas all other publications appear to believe its the best thing since sliced bread.

Dommydino

42 posts

84 months

Monday 17th April 2017
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Beautiful car on the outside but the interior reminds of a wheat bag.

loose cannon

6,030 posts

241 months

Monday 17th April 2017
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It might be many things but beautiful it ain't
Well unless square van/people carrier is your preferred beautifully shaped vehicle

Klippie

3,139 posts

145 months

Monday 17th April 2017
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Very nice...I'll have a 3dr manual in Tornado Red please, oh wait it's £28k before extras fk that.

acme

2,971 posts

198 months

Monday 17th April 2017
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hondansx said:
I would like to see the lease deals versus the R. You see a lot of Rs around and GTIs are not as plentiful as they were once before. Makes me tend to think the R has become a no brainer financially. Let's face it it, the weather in the UK isn't perfect so the R will be the better car for the majority of the time.

I've noticed PH seems to have something against the R, whereas all other publications appear to believe its the best thing since sliced bread.
There were for a very limited time some ridiculous deals on GTI's, circa 5800 over two years in total I think. Frankly at that price if you must go new a lease was surely a new brainer.

ZX10R NIN

Original Poster:

27,598 posts

125 months

Monday 17th April 2017
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hondansx said:
I would like to see the lease deals versus the R. You see a lot of Rs around and GTIs are not as plentiful as they were once before. Makes me tend to think the R has become a no brainer financially. Let's face it it, the weather in the UK isn't perfect so the R will be the better car for the majority of the time.

I've noticed PH seems to have something against the R, whereas all other publications appear to believe its the best thing since sliced bread.
You say that but at the end of the day you drive to the conditions if it's raining unless you're really pressing on the R willhold no advantage.

FN2TypeR

7,091 posts

93 months

Monday 17th April 2017
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Three doors, manual, black or dark blue and the performance pack - I said it in the R thread a few days ago and i'll say it again, I'd prefer that to a Golf R.

But I'd prefer an FK2 Civic to both of them. biggrin

culpz

4,882 posts

112 months

Tuesday 18th April 2017
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I'm not usually a fan of face-lifts but this is quite nice. The virtual cockpit display is smart and you get those lovely pulsating LED indicators that are found on the newer Audi's. Otherwise, it's just business as usual with the Golf.

I'd have a GTI over an R. The R is a great car but i've always preferred and admired the GTI more. Not sure if it's the heritage or it just being the underdog but it's just the sweet-spot for me.

I'm hoping that there will be some fantastic value leases towards the end of the year, like there was not long ago, to replace my current A4.

Bladedancer

1,269 posts

196 months

Tuesday 18th April 2017
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I've never been a particular fan of the GTI (and I don't dislike it either) but this one somehow looks and feels right.
Though I wish VW gave up with the silly checkered seat design.

It is good to see VW is still offering a manual version.
And I do wonder how quickly we'll see 300+ hp mods from the likes of Revo and MTM.

Onehp

1,617 posts

283 months

Tuesday 18th April 2017
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"However, given this engine has now been offered in the MQB cars with 220, 230, 245, 265, 280, 290, 300 and 310hp (please shout if there are more), it's becoming very difficult to detect any discernible differences."

Just want to emphasize that while they may be the same engine block and displacement, there are significant difference in several key components between the lower and higher powered versions. And not just the turbo as some will let you believe. Also spare part catalogues don't necessarily tell what is on the stock car, as it is usually cheaper to keep one single version of part, say a piston, in stock, than to keep all (lower grade) production versions in stock.

toys

239 posts

259 months

Tuesday 18th April 2017
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VW you cheapskates - you have fitted non-handed dog-leg wheels! (i.e. the car is not symmetrical - and thus vexing for us OCD types)

BMW have started doing this as well, but that's no excuse....




HJMS123

988 posts

133 months

Tuesday 18th April 2017
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The pre-facelift standard alloys were lovely but the facelift are not so good looking! Sounds like the PP is still a good drive though smile

anonymous-user

54 months

Tuesday 18th April 2017
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The Gti is a brilliant steer and most car people will ever need, if the horsepower figures aren't to your taste, dail up Revo and see 300bhp with no mods smile

sugerbear

4,032 posts

158 months

Tuesday 18th April 2017
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I have the Mk7 Golf GTi with the performance pack, it's a dreadful car, the R is much much much better in every way, everyone please buy the R. And you can get the R on finance for about £2.50 per month.

So let me repeat, please, please please, buy the R. (It's a "no brainer" right!) wink











Dale487

1,334 posts

123 months

Tuesday 18th April 2017
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Bladedancer said:
I've never been a particular fan of the GTI (and I don't dislike it either) but this one somehow looks and feels right.
Though I wish VW gave up with the silly checkered seat design.

It is good to see VW is still offering a manual version.
And I do wonder how quickly we'll see 300+ hp mods from the likes of Revo and MTM.
For about £700 more you can lose the check seats and have alcantara with a red stripe or leather for about twice as much - I really like the checked seats & never saw the point of putting full leather in a Golf GTI (but the choice is nice to have)

WCZ

10,523 posts

194 months

Tuesday 18th April 2017
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DSGbangs said:
The Gti is a brilliant steer and most car people will ever need, if the horsepower figures aren't to your taste, dail up Revo and see 300bhp with no mods smile
easy to get 400bhp on the R and it becomes genuinely rapid though

it's a no brainer imo, though the R does look a little boring

GloriaGTI

509 posts

87 months

Tuesday 18th April 2017
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sugerbear said:
I have the Mk7 Golf GTi with the performance pack, it's a dreadful car, the R is much much much better in every way, everyone please buy the R. And you can get the R on finance for about £2.50 per month.

So let me repeat, please, please please, buy the R. (It's a "no brainer" right!) wink
This. biggrin