RE: Mazda Eunos Roadster: PH Fleet

RE: Mazda Eunos Roadster: PH Fleet

Saturday 10th June 2017

Mazda Eunos Roadster: PH Fleet

Dan's Eunos returns from the paint shop - was it worth the investment?



Whether your car cost £1,250 like my Eunos or £1.25m, spending a multiple of any purchase price on having it done up is never a decision to be taken lightly. Dropping the car off at Deepcar Autobodies was a bit of a giddy experience and seeing the work in progress underlined quite how extensive the job had become. But sitting on a Sheffield Supertram en route to Deepcar with my credit card trembling in my pocket the realities of actually paying for the work were beginning to hit home. Possibly belatedly.


You're now going to ask how much. And I'm not going to tell you. Mainly because as well as multiples of the car's cost it's also multiples of what I told Mrs Trent it would be. If you're reading this, dear, then don't worry, Mk1 MX-5s are the next air-cooled 911s in terms of investment value and that there is our pension. I'm sure of it, even if it's more beans on toast in a bedsit than caviar on crostini in a beachside villa.

Surprisingly hard finding a good bodyshop, isn't it? Over my years with the car I've popped by a couple here and there to see about getting some of its scrattier aspects tidied up. Nobody seemed interested, even with the promise of, y'know, payment. One told me it was a complete waste of his time, but seemed to have enough on his hands to walk slowly round the car and tell me, panel by panel, exactly how rubbish the paintwork was in a vintage display of 'who done that?' disdain.


I get the impression Dave and the guys at Deepcar do it for the love as much as anything though. While not cheap I'm more than satisfied I got value for the money invested in the car, and the fact they're booked until the end of the year shows how in demand their services are. And the way they approached the job demonstrates why it's always worth hunting out specialists for work like this.

I've had the car back a week now and every time I poke and prod around it I find another little thing they've done. It might be the fresh new bolts holding the front bumper and only exposed when the lights are up, that they put shiny new door catches on or fact they dug out a new bit of carpet and a battery clamp when they were tidying up the boot suggests the kind of attention to detail only people who really know and love the cars would be bothered about. I didn't ask them to do it but they even wire-brushed and Waxoyled the suspension arms and coated the inside of the wheelarches with stone chip protection too, hopefully helping my rust-free car stay that way in the years to come. Dave sourced a secondhand hood to replace the one with the frayed rear window he'd taken off, the door cappings are new and from front to back (and even underneath) the car looks absolutely brilliant.


Basically, you get the impression that once they've got a car apart they start doing stuff like this just because it would offend their sensibilities to put a rusty bolt back in alongside shiny new panels or not replace the sound deadening material inside the boot or whatever other myriad little things they did along the way. OK, so the final bill came in a little heftier than I'd prepared myself for. But I don't begrudge any of it.

I even like the return of the Eunos badge on the nose, though it does present a dilemma on where to put my stick-on plate. I think I'll source some proper badges for the back too. So much for the new-found enthusiasm for originality - what about the much-derided orange wheels? They're staying orange for now, mainly because they seem to really wind people up and that amuses my more belligerent side!


Does the expenditure add up though? It's interesting to see a search for NA MX-5s on PH now returns just 29 cars, the first dozen of which are over £5K and within that number a selection of super low-mileage examples for more than double that. I'm amused to see you can still buy a basic silver Eunos like mine for little over a grand but I can't help thinking that the days of the cheap early Eunos or MX-5 are not long with us.

Of course, in monetary terms it's is only worthwhile if you make a return on it. Which would mean selling it, something I have no intention of doing. Money's money; the return on the emotional investment is already being realised though. There's a McLaren outside my house too. But my little Mazda is getting all my attention at the moment.

In fact, the sun is out. I'm off for a drive.


FACT SHEET
Car:
1993 Eunos Roadster (JDM import model)
Run by: Dan Trent
Bought: January 2011
Mileage: Hopefully some more now the weather is looking better!
Purchase price: £1,250
Last month at a glance: Eunos gleaming, credit card reeling

Previous reports:
The answer to everything?
More exhaust noise? Don't mind if I do...
Skidfoolery at Silverstone on the eco tyres
Er, more skidfoolery at Silverstone on the eco tyres!
Hibernation? Not for this Eunos!
Sell it? Nah, I'll just drive it, ta
Spring comes along and heating mechanism packs up
Skids on hold as LSD bites the dust
Eunos out of hiding and expenditure looms
To the paint shop!
Issue with rear quarter
Stripped and ready for paint

 

 

 

 

 

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suffolk009

Original Poster:

5,441 posts

166 months

Tuesday 6th June 2017
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You lucky sod.

I'm at the point of getting my Eunos (just 270,000kms) through MOTs on a wing and a prayer until I can afford to spend the money on it. The other day I was able to see it up on a ramp - my friendly mechanic walked me around, sticking his finger into holes underneath it.

I don't doubt that the money spent is worthwhile. What else is there? I think once these cars become rarer the value will rise steadily. Not 911 money (but that won't last), but good ones will be £20k in a couple of years time.

It looks absolutely great. Except for those horrible orange wheels....


alorotom

11,954 posts

188 months

Tuesday 6th June 2017
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looks good ... only part that would niggle me is the bonnet looking a different shade now

I have a 2002 megane cab that I picked up for £275 recently and that in the process of being returned to OEM and prettied ... def a labour of love and one that many just dont get smile

oh and keep the wheels smile

J4CKO

41,676 posts

201 months

Tuesday 6th June 2017
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They will go up but cant see them going that high, after all even the original British stuff they used as a template isnt that expensive, MGB's for example, ok, TRs, Healeys and the like have gone higher but there werent many about, compared to the number of MX5's, still a fairly regular sight on our roads.

rtz62

3,374 posts

156 months

Tuesday 6th June 2017
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I'm sure Dan will confirm that the bonnet is, in fact, exactly the same colour as the rest of the car, and that the difference is an illusion caused by shade from trees to the drivers side?
After all, I can't see Dan pootling on home and presenting this to SWMBO, with a 'ta da!' Only for her to distainfully suggest that it was painted by a certain Mr S Wonder. Especially as it cost £foreign holiday'...
And to be fair J4CKO, I think you're possibly not comparing apples with apples. The MX5 took a lot of its DNA from the Lotus Elan, which have gone up in value and are equally as lightweight and eager (thats not dissing a TR or MG, but they just don't sit in the same category to me).
And Dan, justification is surely along the same lines as when Mrs Dan, like many of her sex, triumphantly return from a shopping spre, and explains how spending £500 SAVED her/you £1000. I've tried it. It works. But only once for men about car purchases, unlike our dear ladies who seem to apply the justification ad nauseam......

Dan Trent

1,866 posts

169 months

Tuesday 6th June 2017
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Bonnet is indeed the same shade - it was a very bright day when I shot the photos and the reflections off the wings bleached out the camera's sensor. It's THAT SHINY!

And I think both sexes play the same game when it comes to unnecessary expenditure, albeit with different products.

Dan

Rob.043

62 posts

182 months

Tuesday 6th June 2017
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Financially it will never make much sense. But you are a car enthusiast, so what else were you going to do! I suppose it makes vastly more sense than watching the money disappear in depreciation on a new one.

You'll have boosted its resale value substantially if the time came to sell, which would pay back a good portion of this big spend. But cars take a bit of money to keep this nice and you can enjoy its superb condition every time you look at it or use it. Well done.

CABC

5,595 posts

102 months

Tuesday 6th June 2017
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better man maths here is that you're maintaining an asset. cars cost £ to run but when the asset is appreciating, even if only slowly, everything is good in my book. key is to enjoy it and justify the running costs. memories of great drives. priceless.

Plate spinner

17,739 posts

201 months

Tuesday 6th June 2017
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You've invested in it and it's looking great - so now sort those bloody awful wheels out!

They'd look fine on a dented / rusty track slag wrapped in R888s hooning around a deserted airfield..
But on a tidy car like this they look so wrong it's verging on being offensive.

Just IMHO of course biggrin

Plate spinner

17,739 posts

201 months

Tuesday 6th June 2017
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CABC said:
better man maths here is that you're maintaining an asset. cars cost £ to run but when the asset is appreciating, even if only slowly, everything is good in my book. key is to enjoy it and justify totally erase the running costs. memories of great drives. priceless.
Edited for you hehe

threespires

4,297 posts

212 months

Tuesday 6th June 2017
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Excellent. How nice to see an MX-5 restored and not turned into a kit or track day warrior. As you say, Mk1 cars are becoming scarce. I'm saving to do the same to my 1990 car.

I wonder if Mazda will do the same as MG & start offering body shells for NA/NB cars at a sensible price. Surly its in their interests to keep early cars away from the scrapper.

VladD

7,864 posts

266 months

Tuesday 6th June 2017
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That looks good Dan, but you need to get a "proper" battery and tray in there to get the OEM look back.

jeremyc

23,546 posts

285 months

Tuesday 6th June 2017
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article said:
I'm amused to see you can still by a basic silver Eunos like mine for little over a grand but I can't help thinking that the days of the cheap early Eunos or MX-5 are not long with us.
Just because you're no longer on the payroll it doesn't mean you can give up on the proof reading. wink

Dan Trent

1,866 posts

169 months

Tuesday 6th June 2017
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Just checking the lads are still awake.

NIKOLAI!

Dan

jtopps

154 posts

155 months

Tuesday 6th June 2017
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Another grand job by Dave and the team at Deepcar. I sold my MX5 in February but I can't stop thinking about them... spin And thus the cycle begins again...

suffolk009

Original Poster:

5,441 posts

166 months

Tuesday 6th June 2017
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threespires said:
I wonder if Mazda will do the same as MG & start offering body shells for NA/NB cars at a sensible price. Surly its in their interests to keep early cars away from the scrapper.
Oh, that would be so welcome.

CABC

5,595 posts

102 months

Tuesday 6th June 2017
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threespires said:


I wonder if Mazda will do the same as MG & start offering body shells for NA/NB cars at a sensible price. Surly its in their interests to keep early cars away from the scrapper.
they offer the ND at an incredible price. updated and fully compliant with modern legislation.

Turbobanana

6,308 posts

202 months

Tuesday 6th June 2017
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How much of the discretionary effort is due to the fact that the specialist knows his work will appear in an article?

While I'm not proposing any opinion about Deepcar, anyone who knows that the results of their work will be globally broadcast will pull out all the stops - that's human nature.

That said, it does look good now, doesn't it? Apart from the wheels...

Dan Trent

1,866 posts

169 months

Tuesday 6th June 2017
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Turbobanana said:
How much of the discretionary effort is due to the fact that the specialist knows his work will appear in an article?

While I'm not proposing any opinion about Deepcar, anyone who knows that the results of their work will be globally broadcast will pull out all the stops - that's human nature.

That said, it does look good now, doesn't it? Apart from the wheels...
Go along, chat to Dave and the crew and I think you'll share the impression they'd do the same for anyone. They just love the cars, take pride in their work and have the kind of mindset where putting a rusty old bolt back in when you could put a nice fresh one there instead would be offensive! Given how in-demand their services are no special favours merited either - they've got more work than they can do as it is!

And I've got to the point with the wheels now where I just enjoy the fact they wind everyone up! Which isn't to say the Ultraleggeras currently in the cellar won't get a coat of paint and stuck on at some point. We'll see.

Cheers!

Dan

snotrag

14,481 posts

212 months

Tuesday 6th June 2017
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Turbobanana said:
How much of the discretionary effort is due to the fact that the specialist knows his work will appear in an article?

While I'm not proposing any opinion about Deepcar, anyone who knows that the results of their work will be globally broadcast will pull out all the stops - that's human nature.

That said, it does look good now, doesn't it? Apart from the wheels...
I'm as cynical as you, however as an ex and longtime mx5 fan boy, Deepcar have long held a very good reputation, which im sure is why Dan chose them. A spot of good PR is always great and I'm sure there might have been a little extra care on this one, but I think it's justified.


As a 3x owner, I have never been able from fully forget the idea of buying another....

Turbobanana

6,308 posts

202 months

Tuesday 6th June 2017
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Dan Trent said:
Turbobanana said:
How much of the discretionary effort is due to the fact that the specialist knows his work will appear in an article?

While I'm not proposing any opinion about Deepcar, anyone who knows that the results of their work will be globally broadcast will pull out all the stops - that's human nature.

That said, it does look good now, doesn't it? Apart from the wheels...
Go along, chat to Dave and the crew and I think you'll share the impression they'd do the same for anyone. They just love the cars, take pride in their work and have the kind of mindset where putting a rusty old bolt back in when you could put a nice fresh one there instead would be offensive! Given how in-demand their services are no special favours merited either - they've got more work than they can do as it is!

And I've got to the point with the wheels now where I just enjoy the fact they wind everyone up! Which isn't to say the Ultraleggeras currently in the cellar won't get a coat of paint and stuck on at some point. We'll see.

Cheers!

Dan
Good to hear, and the response that I was looking for.

But those wheels... tongue out