RE: Abarth 124 Spider: PH Fleet

RE: Abarth 124 Spider: PH Fleet

Tuesday 10th October 2017

Abarth 124 Spider: PH Fleet

A battle with a baby brother and a tussle with the twin in a busy first month!



Wouldn't you know, life with the Abarth is proving rather enjoyable. It's not with me at the moment and I think I'm missing it slightly. Curious. For a car that didn't impress all that much on first exposure that's very pleasing, and what long-term tests aim to achieve.


There are still reservations, and I'm not a total convert yet, but there are little (and quite endearing) details that are being revealed day-to-day. That seemingly small boot can take a huge suitcase when your girlfriend massively overpacks for a holiday. The roof is now going up and down without a second thought, its simplicity a joy in our fickle climate. As the temperature drops the exhaust is rowdier too, and I'm learning how to get the pops and bangs on demand. And roof down with the heating up, the 124 is rather pleasant - agile, potent, entertaining.

Of course though, the irks begin to make themselves a more permanent fixture in a long-term arrangement. Fortunately, however, the list of those is shorter. Why the Abarth has Alcantara on the dash (where it's of no use) but not on the wheel (where it would be welcome) is a mystery, and having got used to keyless entry with the Swift it seems odd to use a car without it now. Like I said, minor gripes.


The 124's case was helped in its first month by a couple of comparison tests, too. The first was with a 595 Turismo, one in which the newer Abarth really shone. Or the older one performed pretty poorly; depends on your perspective. Not only does the 595 feel like a much cheaper car with performance forced upon it, it also feels pretty old now and, to be frank, quite compromised. The driving position is awkward, the gearshift baggy and the ride jiggly. It still looks quite funky - even after all this time - and there's some entertainment to holding on in something that really shouldn't go that fast, but the 595 isn't a brilliant car to drive. The 124, despite its issues, felt like a junior Ferrari by comparison - low slung, well honed and engaging. Perhaps the two aren't directly comparable, though the 124 must be considered at £27K (for the Scorpione version) when you can pay up to £25,000 for a '695 Rivale' cabrio.


A far sterner test came in the shape of the Mazda MX-5 blood brother, in 2.0-litre Sport Nav trim that's most comparable to the Abarth. They're separated by just 10hp, 15kg and, using that Scorpione spec again, less than £3,000. The duel is coming in a proper twin test soon, but it won't give way too much to say that it was a very enjoyable day, and that the two cars are admirably discrete despite their shared underpinnings. More on that to follow...

The Abarth has been busy then, showing nearly two thousand miles more than when it first arrived with us. It will continue to accrue the miles as well, and we're hoping to get it out at the Silverstone Sunday Service at the end of the month too. Given it's about the only place we've not driven the car yet, I'm really intrigued to see how it performs.


FACT SHEET
Car
: 2017 Abarth 124 Spider
On fleet since: August 2017
Mileage: 11,073 (delivered on 8,858)
List price new: £29,565 (As tested £32,210 comprising £600 for Portogallo 1974 Grey paint, £1,250 for Visibility Pack (LED headlights with automatic levelling and washers, Adaptive Front Light System, Dusk-sensing and rain sensitive wipers, rear parking sensors) and £795 for Bose Sound System)
Last month at a glance: Number crunching as 124 battles 595 and MX-5

Previous reports
A new Abarth arrives rather noisily

 

 

 

 

 

 

Author
Discussion

ecsrobin

Original Poster:

17,133 posts

166 months

Tuesday 10th October 2017
quotequote all
Good to see it’s growing on you.

Comparing a Turismo to a 124 is a bit unfair especially considering the price difference. A better comparison would be VS the competizione with performance pack which has an LSD and similar power.

Mr2Mike

20,143 posts

256 months

Tuesday 10th October 2017
quotequote all
said:
Why the Abarth has Alcantara on the dash (where it's of no use) but not on the wheel (where it would be welcome) is a mystery,
Because Alcantara on steering wheels gets irreversibly manky unless you wear driving gloves all the time. Leather is a far more practical steering wheel covering for a road car.

usualdog

231 posts

164 months

Tuesday 10th October 2017
quotequote all
Comparing a Turismo to a 124 is a bit unfair especially considering the price difference. A better comparison would be VS the competizione with performance pack which has an LSD and similar power.
[/quote]


Fair point. Offered to lend them my 180 Comp but no takers!

TheDrBrian

5,444 posts

223 months

Tuesday 10th October 2017
quotequote all
Its sad when Fiat's best car isn't made by them.

carinaman

21,325 posts

173 months

Tuesday 10th October 2017
quotequote all
TheDrBrian said:
Its sad when Fiat's best car isn't made by them.
Even as a Mazda MX-5 fan I'd agree.

I suppose it gives more choice? You can now have your MX-5 with a dash of Italian?

I saw a 124 in a pale to mid blue metallic that reminded me of a shade done on the Beta Coupe and Maseratis and it did look quite good even in Anytown UK High Street and not Tuscany.

Mr Tidy

22,408 posts

128 months

Wednesday 11th October 2017
quotequote all
Missed opportunity for Fiat IMHO. frown

I had a 125, then a 132 1800ES - the Colombo twin-cam was a great engine!

Now it's just more 1.4 litre turbo cr*p - however pretty it looks?

ecsrobin

Original Poster:

17,133 posts

166 months

Wednesday 11th October 2017
quotequote all
Mr Tidy said:
Missed opportunity for Fiat IMHO. frown

I had a 125, then a 132 1800ES - the Colombo twin-cam was a great engine!

Now it's just more 1.4 litre turbo cr*p - however pretty it looks?
The days are numbered for manufacturers making N/A cars I’d suggest.

Mr Tidy

22,408 posts

128 months

Wednesday 11th October 2017
quotequote all
ecsrobin said:
The days are numbered for manufacturers making N/A cars I’d suggest.
Probably - but that didn't put Mazda off did it! laugh

If only Fiat still had some b*lls!? (Or even a decent engine)! Sad days for Italian sports cars. frown



ecsrobin

Original Poster:

17,133 posts

166 months

Wednesday 11th October 2017
quotequote all
Mr Tidy said:
Probably - but that didn't put Mazda off did it! laugh

If only Fiat still had some b*lls!? (Or even a decent engine)! Sad days for Italian sports cars. frown
I’m biased but I don’t mind my 1.4 “turbo crap” certainly puts a lot of other cars to shame.

Mr Tidy

22,408 posts

128 months

Wednesday 11th October 2017
quotequote all
ecsrobin said:
I’m biased but I don’t mind my 1.4 “turbo crap” certainly puts a lot of other cars to shame.
That's good - maybe Fiat have identified a niche?

Who knows, but a 124 Spyder isn't ever going to put either of my 10+ years old cars to shame. laugh



ecsrobin

Original Poster:

17,133 posts

166 months

Wednesday 11th October 2017
quotequote all
Mr Tidy said:
That's good - maybe Fiat have identified a niche?

Who knows, but a 124 Spyder isn't ever going to put either of my 10+ years old cars to shame. laugh
True although on paper it’s an equal match to your 325 from the 1.4 crappy turbo :haha:

Mr Tidy

22,408 posts

128 months

Wednesday 11th October 2017
quotequote all
ecsrobin said:
True although on paper it’s an equal match to your 325 from the 1.4 crappy turbo :haha:
Oops, I forgot that 168 bhp from a Fiat "Abarth" is apparently equal to 192 bhp from a German manufacturer - but I notice you didn't mention my other car! byebye

ecsrobin

Original Poster:

17,133 posts

166 months

Wednesday 11th October 2017
quotequote all
Mr Tidy said:
ecsrobin said:
True although on paper it’s an equal match to your 325 from the 1.4 crappy turbo :haha:
Oops, I forgot that 168 bhp from a Fiat "Abarth" is apparently equal to 192 bhp from a German manufacturer - but I notice you didn't mention my other car! byebye
It’s how it uses them horses. Same 0-60, lighter with LSD and probably a lot more fun than a German barge down a B road.

I’m assuming you’ve driven the 124?

Mound Dawg

1,915 posts

175 months

Wednesday 11th October 2017
quotequote all
Mr Tidy said:
Missed opportunity for Fiat IMHO. frown

I had a 125, then a 132 1800ES - the Colombo twin-cam was a great engine!

Now it's just more 1.4 litre turbo cr*p - however pretty it looks?
Good point. I've got a 124 Lusso and despite it being a Japanese car with an Italian engine I'd say that the engine is the least Italian thing about it.

If it made the noise and had the power delivery of my Alfa 75 Twinspark it would be perfect but then it would do 25 mpg instead of 43 and cost £400 a year to tax instead of £150.

stuckmojo

2,982 posts

189 months

Wednesday 11th October 2017
quotequote all
These look somewhat dumpy on photos, but are very pretty in the real world, especially while on the move.

If I were in the market for a small convertible I'd have one.

TheDrBrian

5,444 posts

223 months

Wednesday 11th October 2017
quotequote all
ecsrobin said:
Mr Tidy said:
Missed opportunity for Fiat IMHO. frown

I had a 125, then a 132 1800ES - the Colombo twin-cam was a great engine!

Now it's just more 1.4 litre turbo cr*p - however pretty it looks?
The days are numbered for manufacturers making N/A cars I’d suggest.
I dunno HCCI could be interesting. Also an sounds way better than the farting through a straw of turbo cars.

Agent XXX

1,248 posts

107 months

Wednesday 11th October 2017
quotequote all
Mr2Mike said:
said:
Why the Abarth has Alcantara on the dash (where it's of no use) but not on the wheel (where it would be welcome) is a mystery,
Because Alcantara on steering wheels gets irreversibly manky unless you wear driving gloves all the time. Leather is a far more practical steering wheel covering for a road car.
Also alcantara on the dash IS useful. Eliminates glare from the screen reflecting on a plastic dash.

MrK50

22 posts

80 months

Wednesday 11th October 2017
quotequote all
I've had mine for 7 months now and really can't fault it. I've been a lifelong MX-5 fan (owned a Mk 2 for 10 years) but the Abarth is so much more than the sum of its parts.

RacerMDR

5,516 posts

211 months

Wednesday 11th October 2017
quotequote all
if a person was in the market for an S2000.............(forgetting budget for a moment) - would a person be seriously interested in this Abarth as an alternative?


Mound Dawg

1,915 posts

175 months

Wednesday 11th October 2017
quotequote all
Agent XXX said:
Also alcantara on the dash IS useful. Eliminates glare from the screen reflecting on a plastic dash.
It is, but if you look at where it is you can see that this part of the dash won't reflect on the screen anyway!