RE: New 911 GT3 RS unveiled - we go inside

RE: New 911 GT3 RS unveiled - we go inside

Wednesday 21st February

New 911 GT3 RS unveiled - we go inside

We've had a sneak peek at Porsche's latest RS model. With Walter Rohrl driving. Which is nice



Finland is properly brass monkeys. Minus 28 in fact, but nobody's complaining. As car reveals go it's the most unusual one I've been to yet, Porsche's GT Boss Andreas Preuninger, stood in front of what's very clearly the new GT3 RS, covered up in this winter wonderland. We're at Porsche's Experience Centre around 110 miles north of the Arctic Circle and they're about to pull the covers off it.

Not that anyone was under any illusion what might be under the sheet, the big wing makes it fairly obvious. Some of the details about the Lizard Green machine you'll have already gleaned thanks to the perennially leaky internet, but in case you missed them here's a re-cap. It retains its 4.0-litre capacity, and, contrary to many internet rumours, isn't turbocharged.

It's essentially identical to the engine in the GT3, though the differing intake, exhaust and electronic control liberates a few more hp, raising output from 500 up to 520hp. Torque's up about 7lb ft, too, the RS's engine featuring the same 9,000rpm maximum as its GT3 sibling. The numbers? It'll do 0-62mph in 3.2 seconds and reach a maximum of 193.8mph. As ever, don't be surprised if those figures are a touch conservative.


Despite being revealed at an event celebrating 30 years of Porsche's four-wheel drive system, the RS remains rear-wheel drive only. PDK only, too, as is its way. Three-pedal and stick fans having to console themselves with a manual GT3, or GT3 Touring. As is typical with an RS it's all about the details. Preuninger admits it's not simply about power, but instead a case of finessing the package, making small gains that collectively add up to a greater whole: "This is more about tactility, precision. Precision was in general what we had in mind."

Unsurprisingly, then, the chassis borrows heavily from the GT2 RS, the suspension featuring the same solid links, with the exception of one mount relating to the rear-wheel steering system. Essentially it's set -up like a Cup car, the spring rates doubled over the GT3, Preuninger admitting that the suspension is where the GT3 RS gains the most. Enough, he reckons for a Nurburgring time of around 7 minutes 5 seconds, significantly quicker than the old car, and he says only about one second of that gain would be down to the increased power.


The improvements will be traction, grip, control and aero. Everything from the rear-wheel steering system and e-diff controls having been re-calibrated, to the brake pads now sitting fractionally closer to the discs. Those discs will be steel as standard, or PCCB carbon ceramic items if you tick the correct option box. With either material the front brakes are cooled by the NACA ducts in the bonnet borrowed from the GT2 RS, these having the dual benefit of also cleaning up the air travelling over the back of the car to the rear wing. That wing sits a touch higher, the RS able to generate the same downforce as its predecessor, but doing so while generating less drag.

Weight savings obviously feature, too, Preuninger claiming to have saved 5kg in the carpets and sound-proofing alone. What it'll eventually tip the scales at remains a number to be decided by the homologation laws, though Preuninger admits it'll likely be the same as the old car. That's thanks to new measurement regulations not allowing Porsche to do so with all the weight saving options specified. They remain familiar, the ability to have your RS sans radio and air-conditioning, if you're some sort of mass masochist.


There'll be the choice of lighter seats, while another element pinched from the GT2 RS parts bin is the availability of a Weissach Package. Pick that and you'll drop another 29kg over a Clubsport equipped car thanks to the fitment of carbon-fibre bonnet and roof, magnesium wheels and a titanium cage. The Weissach Package will, says Preuninger, be offered as a two-stage option, early cars unable to have the magnesium wheels - which save around 12kg - due to production delays. Visually, the Weissach Pack equipped cars will be obvious thanks to the carbon on the bonnet and roof, the GT3 RS not getting the body-coloured stripe of the GT2 RS.

We'll likely see a Weissach-equipped car in Geneva, the Lizard Green car in Finland joined by a development hack in black 'disguise'. It's that car I'm just about to get in, with Porsche's Walter Rohrl at the wheel. A few laps, on ice, with 520hp, rear-wheel drive and a rally legend in control. Rohrl does that ridiculous thing of making it all look so easy, his inputs so measured, so efficient as to make them look lazy, their slowness in stark contrast to the speed they're generating through the high snow banks on the tight, challenging course. The noise filling the cabin is sensational, the GT3 RS's screaming 4.0-litre flat-six making a sound that's pure racer, the suspension smoothing off the rough, rutted surface, demonstrating the same ridiculous balance of control and supple ride that the GT2 RS boasts. Rohrl's as measured in his response to my questions as to how it compares to the old GT3 RS, simply saying: "it's much better." And until we actually get to drive it, I'm not about to argue...

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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terryb

Original Poster:

790 posts

177 months

Tuesday 20th February
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Simply awesome 👏

Gameface

4,465 posts

10 months

Wednesday 21st February
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I loathe the body colour rim edges on the alloy wheels.

Looks cheap and chavvy.

Pretty special otherwise.

MissChief

4,823 posts

101 months

Wednesday 21st February
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Looks amazing, but yet another car I won't ever be able to afford.

Could PH be going the way of Evo and forgetting that not everyone can afford £100k+ cars? Sure, I know many here can and all power to them, I'm sure most of them have worked hard to get where they are but part of the PH ethos has always been cheaper cars that still have that thrill of driving. I know there's Shed (which often doesn't have PH worthy cars. Or cars at all) but it seems to be moving towards more expensive cars these days.

Gus265

136 posts

66 months

Wednesday 21st February
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Yes - as car reveals go, definitely a weird one! Cars never look good driving through or covered in snow. Especially a car that wasn't designed to be there! Looking forward to the new Land Rover Defender reveal at Monza then!
I'm sure most will disagree but I think Porsche are doing enthusiasts a favour with yet another GT variant? 911R prices have crashed, latest GT3 just came out, GT3 Touring too, GT2RS as well, both GT3 and GT3 RS in 991.1 form seemingly settling in price, same engine in this as 997 GT3 4.0. Hopefully those lucky enough to get one of these will have it as they are an enthusiast and not for selling on. And those that are selling on just aren't going to get the premium they did when the 911R came out? Crikey, even the 911 Carrera T is a help! They are not diluting the brand but hopefully diluting the speculation? Time will tell

breadvan

1,204 posts

101 months

Wednesday 21st February
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I love it of course, but I can’t help thinking it’s a little too shouty considering the very modest power increase over the GT3 Touring.

It needs more power to match its looks imho.
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breadvan

1,204 posts

101 months

Wednesday 21st February
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Gus265 said:
Yes - as car reveals go, definitely a weird one! Cars never look good driving through or covered in snow. Especially a car that wasn't designed to be there! Looking forward to the new Land Rover Defender reveal at Monza then!
I'm sure most will disagree but I think Porsche are doing enthusiasts a favour with yet another GT variant? 911R prices have crashed, latest GT3 just came out, GT3 Touring too, GT2RS as well, both GT3 and GT3 RS in 991.1 form seemingly settling in price, same engine in this as 997 GT3 4.0. Hopefully those lucky enough to get one of these will have it as they are an enthusiast and not for selling on. And those that are selling on just aren't going to get the premium they did when the 911R came out? Crikey, even the 911 Carrera T is a help! They are not diluting the brand but hopefully diluting the speculation? Time will tell
Without diesels, this is the future for Porsche - more GT cars......

RamboLambo

4,843 posts

103 months

Wednesday 21st February
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Great, super, smashing, look at what you could of bought but you are not on the A list.

DanielSan

13,336 posts

100 months

Wednesday 21st February
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Coming to a Porsche dealer near you soon, second hand for £350k....

Marwood79

178 posts

120 months

Wednesday 21st February
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I'm not convinced. This is not warming my cockles like the last one did vs the 'cooking' GT3. I must be getting old but the idea of driving this on British roads just seems uncomfortable and it would be on the ramp every fortnight getting the geometry reset!

I like the Ford GT approach with that button that immediately and visibly transforms the car from passable roadsports to pinned-down track weapon in 1 second. The standard setting for this should be identical to the GT3, but with a similar button...

I am getting old. I apologise for this post!

RSchneider

63 posts

97 months

Wednesday 21st February
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breadvan said:
I love it of course, but I can’t help thinking it’s a little too shouty considering the very modest power increase over the GT3 Touring.

It needs more power to match its looks imho.
Don't worry. Up there in that cold dense air it has at least 530 PS.

wildatheart

141 posts

112 months

Wednesday 21st February
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Even if I had the cash, I'd feel silly buying this when pictures of the 992 are already out there.

LaurasOtherHalf

13,649 posts

129 months

Wednesday 21st February
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First time I'm more interested in the regular GT3 (touring) than the RS variant.

Doesn't help that they look so oversized in real life.

I also keep seeing mention in these articles it's a "cup car for the road", do they really share that much these days?

n4aat

432 posts

145 months

Wednesday 21st February
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It’s beginning to look like a parody of itself.

Can they stick any more black tat on it?!

LP670

488 posts

59 months

Wednesday 21st February
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Prefer the regular GT3 to the RS on looks alone, without even having to have the manual gearbox debate. Just a shame Porsche only open the order books for the upper echelons of their customer base.

T1berious

1,096 posts

88 months

Wednesday 21st February
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wildatheart said:
Even if I had the cash, I'd feel silly buying this when pictures of the 992 are already out there.
^This^

I know that all manufacturers do this "Swan song before the next model" but I can't help but feel "Meh" about it.

If I had 150k waiting to drop on a GT3 I'd wait till the 992. It won't be worse will it?



Dave Hedgehog

10,004 posts

137 months

Wednesday 21st February
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perfect just perfect

let me guess, all sold 18 months before being announced lol


isaldiri

3,766 posts

101 months

Wednesday 21st February
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Ah another GT car outside of the select few who get everything no one will be able to buy.

GiveItSomeWellie

2,640 posts

129 months

Wednesday 21st February
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Would still choose this over the new 488 Pista. In any other colour except Lizard Green, this would look (and sound) amazing cloud9

culpz

3,893 posts

45 months

Wednesday 21st February
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I've loved every iteration of the GT3 RS and this one is no different. That colour looks fantastic IMO. I'm also glad they've kept it N/A, at least for now, anyway. I'm not apposed to turbochargers but that 4.0 is a huge part of the appeal. The styling is also bonkers, which just looks amazing to me.

Digga

24,589 posts

216 months

Wednesday 21st February
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Gus265 said:
911R prices have crashed, latest GT3 just came out, GT3 Touring too, GT2RS as well, both GT3 and GT3 RS in 991.1 form seemingly settling in price, same engine in this as 997 GT3 4.0.
Not just jibberish, but also factually incorrect.