RE: Porsche 911 GT3 RS: Driven

RE: Porsche 911 GT3 RS: Driven

Friday 27th April 2018

Porsche 911 GT3 RS | PH Review

We know the GT3 RS is phenomenally fast around the 'ring, but what's it like if you're not Kevin Estre?



Er, yeah, so, spoiler alert: it's quite good. The new Porsche 911 GT3 RS, of second-gen 991 generation, is here. And it'll stay here until the next-generation 911 (the 992) knocks the current 911 out of production next year.

The accessibility stuff first: it's £141,346 and not strictly limited in numbers, per se, but you'll know how it is if you've tried to get one: there won't be enough. There's a Weissach Pack (28kg lighter) coming later too. Production is limited by supplier deals and how many Porsche can squeeze down the line while fulfilling other 911 orders, plus the fact that its emissions mean it's homologated for 1,000 units in the EU this year (registered before September), before it'll have to be fitted with a petrol particulate filter (which later on it will be).


Right. That sorted, now the interesting bits. The GT3 RS is, in a way, a GT2 RS but with a naturally-aspirated motor. Suspension is, like the 2, rose/heim/rod end bearing jointed, for immense precision. The bodywork employs Turbo rear fenders but with new, more efficient scoops, the rear wing and front aero are GT2 RS-ish, although overall this car makes more downforce (480kg at top speed) and more drag, because the 2 RS is regarded as a higher-speed machine, the 3 RS as a track car, in Porsche terms. They deal in very, very small detail at Porsche, as you know. But, as they say: lots of tiny details that each make a very small improvement, add up to a big improvement at the end. As we'll see.

The engine is a development of that found in the 911 GT3, which means it's basically a 4.0 Cup race engine that revs to 9,000rpm. It makes 520hp at 8,250rpm and if you want to get some idea of its character, be aware it makes only 347lb ft and that doesn't arrive until 6,000. It drives the rear wheels through a seven-speed PDK gearbox only - no manual option here. Wheels are the same size as the GT2 RS's, 9.5J x 20in at the front and 12.5J x 21in at the rear - the rear tyres (Michelin Pilot Sport Cup 2, 265/35 R20 at the front, 325/30 ZR 21 at the back) are a slightly different compound to the 2RS's because this car weighs less and the power delivery is different. Magnesium wheels will form part of the Weissach pack and are the reason it's coming later: Porsche has been surprised, I'm not sure why, by the fact that so many 2 RS buyers want the same pack - so that's where the wheels are going for now. There's active rear steer, PASM dampers, and spring rates that are way up on the last-gen GT3 RS, to GT2 RS levels.


As it is, then, weight is 1,430kg, about 40kg lighter than a 2. Stick a half-cage in it with the Clubsport pack and it gets a bit heavier, spec the PCCB ceramic brakes and it gets 16kg lighter, and so on. Details, again.

Either way, what you can definitely tell is that this car is lighter and more agile than a GT2 RS, which means it's more willing to turn than any sports cars this side of a truly lightweight track special. My first experience of it is as a passenger alongside Walter Rohrl, who describes it as "almost mid-engined" in feel.

I haven't driven it on the road. My only go at the wheel is an extended run on the Nurburgring GP circuit - wide, smooth, and from about halfway through, because it's Eifel and it's spring, at least partly damp. At first, though, it's dry, which is a GT3 RS's preferred operating condition.


And it's fabulous. The driving environment is pure GT Porsche: great driving position, spot on seats, a widely adjustable and round steering wheel. Visibility's good, the pedals are ideally spaced, and weighted, to make the most of the beautifully linear, really sharp, naturally-aspirated throttle response. Ooh, it's dead good.

At lower revs and with PDK left in 'D' it's all fine, though to be honest I didn't get a huge chance to try it. But when you ask everything of this engine it's mega, one of the finest production engines on the planet. Sounds great, goes well, revs up for downshifts in an instant. Straight-line performance isn't what the GT3 RS is about but 0-62mph in 3.2 seconds and a top speed of 194mph isn't shabby, is it?

Where it's more impressive, though, is in the way it turns. The big difference between GT3s and GT3 RSs is often in the way the RS is more willing to turn in, and that's the case here. The agility is way beyond anything with its engine in the front, like a BMW M4 GTS, or Mercedes-AMG GT R. It still helps if you trail a GT3 RS's brakes into a bend, keeping that light front end slightly loaded, but there's less compulsion to do so than in a regular GT3. The agility and willingness is there either way.


In the dry there's barely any understeer. Turn too aggressively with no load on the front, especially if it's even mildly damp, and it can push onwards. But more likely is that if you turn with the front settled, you can unsettle the rear. Perhaps you want to. Rear-steer helping to pitch the back in presumably accentuates that, and it all happens pretty swiftly. The GT3's willingness to step beyond its limits is as quick as its reactions below them.

Somewhere between all of this there's a sweet spot of massive lateral grip, and the medium-weight, hugely talkative (and yet uncorrupted) steering. The whole chassis, in fact, is so communicative that you're totally aware, all the time, what state the car is in, how you got it there, and what you ought to do to get it out of it. There's nothing else on sale quite like it.


Perhaps a modern McLaren turns with similar willingness, and has steering almost as good; though I think gives you fewer cornering options. A new Aston Vantage goes in and out of rear grip more benignly. A Ferrari 488 is perhaps more adjustable. But none of these - nothing, in fact, this side of a Caterham, Radical, Ariel, BAC, etc - is ultimately so track happy, or tells you what it's doing with such vigour, or responds to your demands so quickly. I don't think any is, ultimately, as engaging overall as a GT3 RS. Nor, for my money, is a 2 RS - whose power is addictive, sure, but given the choice of more power or less weight, I'd take fewer kilos every time. Especially when the throttle response is like this.

I've driven a GT2 RS on the road and the ride was fine, and the steering clear. I'd want to try a GT3 RS on the road to say for sure, then, but I'm not in too much doubt: I think this is the best driver's car on sale today.


SPECIFICATION - PORSCHE 911 GT3 RS

Engine: 3,996cc flat-six, petrol
Power (hp): 520@8,250rpm
Torque (lb ft): 347@6,000rpm
0-62mph: 3.2sec
Top speed: 194mph
Weight: 1,430kg
MPG: 22.1
CO2: 291g/km
Price: £141,346

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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gstubbs010893

Original Poster:

22 posts

101 months

Thursday 26th April 2018
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Brilliant car. Really hope they get used as the maker intended and not kept in a garage never to see the light of day. GT Silver and gold wheels for me please.

seawise

2,146 posts

206 months

Thursday 26th April 2018
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good to see that Matt Prior got the invite to the launch, so we benefit from a clear, sensible and insightful review rather than some flowery nonsense that others, who will remain nameless, spout.

Wammer

394 posts

188 months

Thursday 26th April 2018
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What I don't understand is how Porsche has got away without having to release a version of the mid engined 911 GT3 RSR that they ran at Le Mans last year.

I thought homologation rules state for a car to run at Le Mans it has to have a road going equivalent. I know Ford was allowed to run the new GT before the road car was released but it did exist as a prototype. I have seen no such prototype from Porsche.

akashzimzimma

182 posts

77 months

Thursday 26th April 2018
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The 991.1 GT3RS on many tracks is slightly slower than a AMG GTR, and that car IS (front) mid engined, with a lower polar moment of inertia than the rear heavy Porsche.
So the comments re turning in better should be reserved until a direct comparison is made with the 991.2 and the AMG GTR.

akashzimzimma

182 posts

77 months

Thursday 26th April 2018
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The 991.1 GT3RS on many tracks is slightly slower than a AMG GTR, and that car IS (front) mid engined, with a lower polar moment of inertia than the rear heavy Porsche.
So the comments re turning in better should be reserved until a direct comparison is made with the 991.2 and the AMG GTR.

Porsche911R

21,146 posts

265 months

Thursday 26th April 2018
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"I think this is the best driver's car on sale today"

I would say A manual 991.2 GT3 is. if you want a "drivers" car.

SFO

5,169 posts

183 months

Thursday 26th April 2018
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excellent read .. great journalism

Terminator X

15,082 posts

204 months

Thursday 26th April 2018
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Looks / sounds amazing. I do wonder though how / if anyone runs them as daily drivers as the one I took out on the track at Silverstone was an absolute bone shaker it was so stiff plus it was not in the least bit comfortable. I was glad to leave it behind tbh.

TX.

steveb8189

473 posts

191 months

Thursday 26th April 2018
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Would love one but a tiny bit of me would be annoyed I couldn't even see a tiny part of the engine when I opened the bonnet

Cheib

23,250 posts

175 months

Thursday 26th April 2018
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Wammer said:
What I don't understand is how Porsche has got away without having to release a version of the mid engined 911 GT3 RSR that they ran at Le Mans last year.

I thought homologation rules state for a car to run at Le Mans it has to have a road going equivalent. I know Ford was allowed to run the new GT before the road car was released but it did exist as a prototype. I have seen no such prototype from Porsche.
I've seen it speculated on Rennlist that such a car in uber limited numbers is coming.

Never you mind

1,507 posts

112 months

Thursday 26th April 2018
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Reminds me, I need to get a new Ironing board.


Love it! Can I buy one? Ah yes, no I can't.

Goes of grumbling about speculators, flippers and how the world is sooooo unfair


ZX10R NIN

27,607 posts

125 months

Thursday 26th April 2018
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Seems like another great drivers car added to the market which ic brilliant now I just need to find my euromillions ticket for last nights draw. ;0

2 GKC

1,897 posts

105 months

Thursday 26th April 2018
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Looks absolutely fantastic

Helicopter123

8,831 posts

156 months

Thursday 26th April 2018
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Lovely, and I'm sure this will do very well for those 'investors' who will be getting one.

Really hope a few get driven.

WCZ

10,526 posts

194 months

Thursday 26th April 2018
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Helicopter123 said:
Lovely, and I'm sure this will do very well for those 'investors' who will be getting one.

Really hope a few get driven.
a few will get driven for sure, it'll be a fantastic track day car and i'm sure you'll spot a few at RMA days

bertie

8,550 posts

284 months

Thursday 26th April 2018
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Clearly the new geration GT 911s are fantastic to drive, I just wish they looked a bit more interesting inside and out.

Dale487

1,334 posts

123 months

Thursday 26th April 2018
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bertie said:
Clearly the new geration GT 911s are fantastic to drive, I just wish they looked a bit more interesting inside and out.
What would you do to make it look more interesting? Personally I prefer the more understated looks of the GT3 Touring & R.

AmosMoses

4,042 posts

165 months

Thursday 26th April 2018
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Lovely article! Enjoyed that.

Porsche really are at the top of their game, this car is awesome.

bertie

8,550 posts

284 months

Thursday 26th April 2018
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Dale487 said:
What would you do to make it look more interesting? Personally I prefer the more understated looks of the GT3 Touring & R.
Not look like literally the other million 911s on the road would be a start.

daytona111r

769 posts

204 months

Thursday 26th April 2018
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Wow that looks good RS treatment should have always been like this