RE: What is sequential turbocharging? PH Explains

RE: What is sequential turbocharging? PH Explains

Tuesday 15th May 2018

What is sequential turbocharging? PH Explains

Discover how manufacturers improve engine response and performance with sequential blowers...



Designing or selecting a turbocharger to best match an engine's intended usage can result in somewhat of a compromised outcome. An engine, after all, is typically operated at a wide range of speeds - and the behaviour of the turbocharger has to be carefully considered to deliver the intended power while maintaining good driveability.

For example, a manufacturer may have a large turbocharger that delivers high boost at high engine speeds. Opting for this would result in good top-end power but poor performance at lower speeds, as well as issues with response and delivery.

Alternatively, a smaller turbocharger that the firm has to hand may start producing boost at very low engine speeds - improving the car's manners at from a standing start - but deliver less manifold pressure than the bigger turbocharger, ultimately restricting peak power.

One way around this issue is to use both turbochargers, with them working together in what's called a 'sequential' configuration. This allows the manufacturer to meet its power targets without delivering a car that suffers from driveability issues.


How does sequential turbocharging work?

In a sequential turbocharger set-up featuring one small and one large turbocharger, the small turbo will primarily produce boost for low speeds while the other will be reserved for higher engine speeds. When the engine speed is low, the limited amount of exhaust gas available will be directed into the smaller turbocharger. This results in the rapid production of boost, granting a prompt response to the driver's accelerator input and improved engine output.

As the power demands and engine speed increases, the engine management system will start to bring the second turbocharger online. A flap in the exhaust manifold will begin to redirect exhaust gas into the second turbocharger, which starts spooling before it is called on in earnest. This helps avoid erratic changes in engine output.

With the second turbocharger now up to speed, all of the engine's exhaust can now be diverted into the large turbocharger; this then allows the engine to reach its maximum output. Depending on the configuration of the system, valves on the intake side may also open and close to the respective turbochargers to avoid pressurised air escaping through the bypassed turbocharger.

This particular arrangement, with one turbocharger being bypassed as another is introduced, is called series-sequential turbocharging. If the first turbocharger continues to be used throughout the entire rev range, however, then the set-up is what's known as a parallel-sequential configuration.


Do the turbochargers have to be a different size?

No - sequential turbocharging can be carried out using identically sized turbochargers, with only one being employed until sufficient exhaust gas is being produced to drive both properly. This marginally less complicated set-up grants similar benefits, improving response yet still permitting for significant power output. Many existing sequentially turbocharged cars - such as the Mk4 Toyota Supra - feature similarly specified turbochargers in a parallel sequential set-up, instead of a small and a large one.

The downsides of sequential turbocharging

The primary problem is complexity and cost. Besides having to contend with two turbochargers and all the required plumbing, the systems to control them are also often complicated and - when the car is older - difficult to maintain. Advances in turbocharging technology, such as the more flexible variable-geometry turbocharger, have subsequently made involved and expensive sequential set-ups redundant.


A brief history of sequential turbocharging

The first production car featuring sequential turbocharging was the Porsche 959, which was launched in 1986. Its sequential turbocharger set-up permitted its six-cylinder boxer to deliver an impressive amount of power in a smooth, controllable fashion, instead of the often spiky delivery experienced in conventional single- or twin-turbo configurations.

Other manufacturers followed this approach; Mazda made use of sequential turbocharging in the Eunos Cosmo, which arrived in 1990, and the same system was used in the 1992 RX-7. Toyota similarly etched its name in the history books in 1993, when it launched the sequentially turbocharged 2JZ-GTE in the Mk4 Supra. Sequential systems have been employed by companies such as Subaru, too, and they can also be found in industrial and diesel applications.

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RSchneider

Original Poster:

215 posts

164 months

Tuesday 15th May 2018
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Sequential forced induction started during the late 1930's with Diesel aero-engines (Junkers Jumo 205 and 207) with a combination of supercharger(s) and turbocharger (a concept also used for the Daimler DB 624 engine, or the Dobrynin WD-4K). And the last generation of piston fighter engines had sequential superchargers with intermediate intercooler. Speaking strictly about sequential turbocharges the 959 was the first.

shotta287

855 posts

94 months

Tuesday 15th May 2018
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Is the BMW N54 a sequential setup?

skidskid

284 posts

141 months

Tuesday 15th May 2018
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RSchneider said:
Sequential forced induction started during the late 1930's with Diesel aero-engines (Junkers Jumo 205 and 207) with a combination of supercharger(s) and turbocharger (a concept also used for the Daimler DB 624 engine, or the Dobrynin WD-4K). And the last generation of piston fighter engines had sequential superchargers with intermediate intercooler. Speaking strictly about sequential turbocharges the 959 was the first.
Are you sure you arent mixing up compound and sequential turbocharging?

smilo996

2,791 posts

170 months

Tuesday 15th May 2018
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Excellent article,
With the management of engines by electronics now widespread do any set ups use electric turbochargers to spool up before the exhaust gas is fully available and vary the input of the turbo outside of the delivery of gases. Like a dim question but.....

Lewis Kingston

240 posts

77 months

Tuesday 15th May 2018
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shotta287 said:
Is the BMW N54 a sequential setup?
The N54 is a conventional twin-turbo engine (two small turbochargers, each with their own manifold fed by three cylinders).



Went back to a single for the N55, I believe, although that was badged 'TwinPower Turbo' in an effort to catch out as many journalists as possible. biggrin

martin12345

603 posts

89 months

Tuesday 15th May 2018
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I am aware of 3 engines with "supplementary" boost devices - 2 are E-compressors and one is a stored compressor air method
There may be more and all 3 are new on the market (~1 year)

Audi 3.0l V6 Turbo Diesel - only in the highest power rating. Uses two conventional tubo's plus an electric compressor for transient response improvements

Mercedes 2.0l T-GDI - Produces ~300PS. One turbo plus electric compressor

Both these engines also have a 48 volt starter/generator as 48 volts is needed to power the electric compressor as the current draw is "too high" for a 12volt motor (efficiency is improved by higher voltage). The electric compressors can run either just for transient boost or in some cases can run constantly at low engines speeds (< 1500 RPM). They are not sized to support constant high RPM operation, that is the turbo's job once the e-compressors have helped to get the turbo spinning nicely

The Volvo 2.0l Diesel has a similar but total different solution. It has an air compressor and a compressed air storage tank. When needed compressed air is released from the tank. This solution does not need 48 volts but the time the extra boost can be supplied is less (dependong on storage tank size.....) Volvo call this their Power-Pulse system.

With the trend to "right size" for emissions (HC, NOx) it is not clear how widespread these boost assist devices will become. Very good for down-sizing but with the change from NEDC to WLTP & RDE, extreme downsizing as a way to achieve low CO2 is less likely.

Dale487

1,334 posts

123 months

Tuesday 15th May 2018
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Lewis Kingston said:
shotta287 said:
Is the BMW N54 a sequential setup?
The N54 is a conventional twin-turbo engine (two small turbochargers, each with their own manifold fed by three cylinders).



Went back to a single for the N55, I believe, although that was badged 'TwinPower Turbo' in an effort to catch out as many journalists as possible. biggrin
The confusing twin power turbo badge refers to it being a twin scroll turbo - which is a different solution to the same problem.

Lewis Kingston

240 posts

77 months

Tuesday 15th May 2018
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skidskid said:
RSchneider said:
Sequential forced induction...
Are you sure you arent mixing up compound and sequential turbocharging?
I stand to be corrected but, as suggested, I believe those are all staged (compounded) engines (like numerous examples from the time), not sequential. I've not encountered a sequentially force-fed aircraft engine but that doesn't mean they aren't out there.

smilo996 said:
With the management of engines by electronics now widespread do any set ups use electric turbochargers to spool up before the exhaust gas is fully available and vary the input of the turbo outside of the delivery of gases.
One (of the very few) examples that springs to mind is the VAG 4.0-litre diesel V8, used in the Audi SQ7 and the Bentayga, which makes use of electrically assisted forced induction. It has a small electrically driven centrifugal supercharger in the intake tract that runs from idle to around 1500rpm; it doesn't interact with the turbochargers directly but, by supplying just enough intake pressure from a dead stop, it helps the SQ7 get going – and cuts down the time it takes for the engine to start producing enough exhaust gas to drive the first turbocharger in earnest.

Ferrari (and BMW, I think) has a series of patents for electrically assisted turbochargers, however, with motors integrated into the cores – which could also be used to recover energy. Nothing concrete on that front yet, though. Give it time...

Ron99

1,985 posts

81 months

Tuesday 15th May 2018
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Dale487 said:
The confusing twin power turbo badge refers to it being a twin scroll turbo - which is a different solution to the same problem.
But generally speaking a twin/ twin-scroll arrangement has a narrower operating range than a sequential arrangement because in the former, both turbos spool up at the same time and run out of puff at the same time whereas in the latter one turbo works in the lower half of the rpm range and the other in the upper half.

GravelBen

15,686 posts

230 months

Tuesday 15th May 2018
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Dale487 said:
The confusing twin power turbo badge refers to it being a twin scroll turbo - which is a different solution to the same problem.
Subaru confused people that way too, the 3rd gen Legacy GT had sequential twins and then the 4th gen Legacy GT had a single twinscroll turbo instead.

margerison

736 posts

250 months

Tuesday 15th May 2018
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Don't BMW offer a quad turbo variant for their 3 litre diesel lump now?

Dale487

1,334 posts

123 months

Tuesday 15th May 2018
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Ron99 said:
Dale487 said:
The confusing twin power turbo badge refers to it being a twin scroll turbo - which is a different solution to the same problem.
But generally speaking a twin/ twin-scroll arrangement has a narrower operating range than a sequential arrangement because in the former, both turbos spool up at the same time and run out of puff at the same time whereas in the latter one turbo works in the lower half of the rpm range and the other in the upper half.
I'm guessing that packaging is easier, lighter and its a cheaper solution than a twin turbo.

Ron99

1,985 posts

81 months

Tuesday 15th May 2018
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Dale487 said:
I'm guessing that packaging is easier, lighter and its a cheaper solution than a twin turbo.
At higher revs, twin works better than sequential because exhaust gas pulses are split into 2x3 (or 2x2) instead of 1x6 (or 1x4) which causes less interference between cylinders.

J4CKO

41,558 posts

200 months

Tuesday 15th May 2018
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margerison said:
Don't BMW offer a quad turbo variant for their 3 litre diesel lump now?
Yep,

https://www.carmagazine.co.uk/car-news/first-offic...

Imagine buying that with 200k on at 15 years old and diagnosing a boost issue/leak biggrin

underphil

1,246 posts

210 months

Tuesday 15th May 2018
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Dale487 said:
Ron99 said:
Dale487 said:
The confusing twin power turbo badge refers to it being a twin scroll turbo - which is a different solution to the same problem.
But generally speaking a twin/ twin-scroll arrangement has a narrower operating range than a sequential arrangement because in the former, both turbos spool up at the same time and run out of puff at the same time whereas in the latter one turbo works in the lower half of the rpm range and the other in the upper half.
I'm guessing that packaging is easier, lighter and its a cheaper solution than a twin turbo.
I think 'TwinPower' is BMW's way of making their customers think they're getting something special, even though practically every manufacturer has been using twin-scroll turbos even in pretty mundane engines for the last 15+ years!

A sequential turbo set up will have much better drive-ability, even if the headline numbers look the same

Dale487

1,334 posts

123 months

Tuesday 15th May 2018
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underphil said:
Dale487 said:
Ron99 said:
Dale487 said:
The confusing twin power turbo badge refers to it being a twin scroll turbo - which is a different solution to the same problem.
But generally speaking a twin/ twin-scroll arrangement has a narrower operating range than a sequential arrangement because in the former, both turbos spool up at the same time and run out of puff at the same time whereas in the latter one turbo works in the lower half of the rpm range and the other in the upper half.
I'm guessing that packaging is easier, lighter and its a cheaper solution than a twin turbo.
I think 'TwinPower' is BMW's way of making their customers think they're getting something special, even though practically every manufacturer has been using twin-scroll turbos even in pretty mundane engines for the last 15+ years!

A sequential turbo set up will have much better drive-ability, even if the headline numbers look the same
I think you're right - but as with everything in the motor industry its finding the best compromise and either packaging or the bean counters/price point mean a twin turbo set up isn't possible and a twin scroll turbo has advantages over a single scroll turbo.

samoht

5,713 posts

146 months

Tuesday 15th May 2018
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Good article.

The sequential turbos on my RX-7 are really nice when they're working; great low- and mid-range response, and then rather than running out of puff at high revs, it gets a second wind. The transition at 4,500rpm is noticeable, but not so marked that it really unsettles the car.

OTOH at 20+ years old, it needed a lot of parts replacing to work properly. Beyond the vacuum control lines, one further issue is that you end up with a rather substantial cast-iron manifold to house and feed the two turbos and flaps, which is then vulnerable to cracking with age / hard use.

'Going single' is one of the perennial debates among RX-7 owners; personally I find the sequentials really suit my driving style, and I love being able to go from stuck behind a dawdler to blasting past without needing a gearchange halfway through the overtake.


underphil

1,246 posts

210 months

Tuesday 15th May 2018
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Dale487 said:
underphil said:
Dale487 said:
Ron99 said:
Dale487 said:
The confusing twin power turbo badge refers to it being a twin scroll turbo - which is a different solution to the same problem.
But generally speaking a twin/ twin-scroll arrangement has a narrower operating range than a sequential arrangement because in the former, both turbos spool up at the same time and run out of puff at the same time whereas in the latter one turbo works in the lower half of the rpm range and the other in the upper half.
I'm guessing that packaging is easier, lighter and its a cheaper solution than a twin turbo.
I think 'TwinPower' is BMW's way of making their customers think they're getting something special, even though practically every manufacturer has been using twin-scroll turbos even in pretty mundane engines for the last 15+ years!

A sequential turbo set up will have much better drive-ability, even if the headline numbers look the same
I think you're right - but as with everything in the motor industry its finding the best compromise and either packaging or the bean counters/price point mean a twin turbo set up isn't possible and a twin scroll turbo has advantages over a single scroll turbo.
Agree, the majority of people will care more that their car has x-amount more lb/ft and bhp than how responsive the throttle is - no incentive for the manufacturer to spend more than they need on two turbos

adamcot

90 posts

158 months

Tuesday 15th May 2018
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JLR's new 2.0 240hp diesel engine uses a 2-stage system from BorgWarner:

https://www.borgwarner.com/news-media/press-releas...

Coldfuse

518 posts

194 months

Tuesday 15th May 2018
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samoht said:
Good article.

The sequential turbos on my RX-7 are really nice when they're working; great low- and mid-range response, and then rather than running out of puff at high revs, it gets a second wind. The transition at 4,500rpm is noticeable, but not so marked that it really unsettles the car.

OTOH at 20+ years old, it needed a lot of parts replacing to work properly. Beyond the vacuum control lines, one further issue is that you end up with a rather substantial cast-iron manifold to house and feed the two turbos and flaps, which is then vulnerable to cracking with age / hard use.

'Going single' is one of the perennial debates among RX-7 owners; personally I find the sequentials really suit my driving style, and I love being able to go from stuck behind a dawdler to blasting past without needing a gearchange halfway through the overtake.
I have a very similar experience in a similar vintage mk3 Subaru Legacy GTB, great for pootling around, but when you are in 3rd coming to the NSL signs you don't need to do much short of put you foot down, its especially useful when overtaking as you say aswell.

There is a noticable crossover between the small and the large turbo on mine.