RE: Porsche Project Gold makes £2.5m

RE: Porsche Project Gold makes £2.5m

Monday 29th October 2018

Porsche Project Gold makes £2.5m

Porsche's restomod 993 makes the big bucks, all of which are heading to the Ferry Porsche Foundation



A one-off 993 Turbo overhauled by Porsche itself was never going to be a cheap car to purchase: take into account the air cooled 911 fascination, its unique status and the manufacturer involvement, and it's clear this wasn't going to be a 'mere' six-figure Porsche. Still, even with that knowledge, that the hammer fell on Project Gold at €2,589,027 (€2,743,500 with fees included, which makes for a £2.4m total) still looks like a remarkable result. Makes that £1.8m GT2 from a couple of years back look a bargain...

The car was sold at RM's Porsche 70th Anniversary auction at Atlanta over the weekend, with 37 bids in 10 minutes leading up to that extraordinary total. Additional results haven't yet been issued, though they'd be well worth keeping an eye on: lots included the 959 Paris Dakar, plus 2.8 and 3.0-litre 911 RSRs. Yum.


As mentioned, the proceeds from the sale are going to the Ferry Porsche Foundation. A not-for-profit organisation, the Porsche foundation "supports work in the fields of education, research, sport, culture and social affairs."

Should the reality of a £2.5m 993 fill you with dread - even given its status and specification - then there might be some solace to find in the PH classifieds. It is possible, for example, to still purchase a manual, rear-wheel drive 993 for less than £40,000 - see here. Finally, it's worth remembering that Project Gold isn't road legal, so there's no chance of it turning up in supercar spotter's gallery anytime soon. Make the most of it while you can!


[911 2.8 RSR pic: Stephan Bauer for RM Auctions]

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DanT5R

Original Poster:

1 posts

112 months

Monday 29th October 2018
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Why is it not road legal?

thegreenhell

15,337 posts

219 months

Monday 29th October 2018
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DanT5R said:
Why is it not road legal?
I think it was built from all new parts, and it doesn't meet current regulations for a new car. You could probably get it through IVA if you really wanted to though.

Midgster

571 posts

234 months

Monday 29th October 2018
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Take an awesome road legal car, spend £000's on it making it an even more awesome version of that road legal car, but do things to it that means you can't drive it on the road anymore, which means no-one other than the owner will ever see it again (and future owners that no doubt will pay more than £2.5 million for).

Pointless, utterly pointless (other than £2.5 million going to charity)

M7NDP

31 posts

128 months

Monday 29th October 2018
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I believe its to do with the old air cooled engine no longer passing emissions as this would be seen as a 'new car'.

CS Garth

2,860 posts

105 months

Monday 29th October 2018
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2.5 mill??

Someone could have overpaid their mortgage, picked up a couple of buy to lets in Mexborough, topped up their SIPP and bought a station car PLUS Exige for that. Some people rolleyes

(I’d thought I save someone else the effort).

Spidersoon

39 posts

177 months

Monday 29th October 2018
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A nice way to make a large charitable donation.

dimik

14 posts

160 months

Monday 29th October 2018
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Generally some silly amounts obtained for some of the lots in that auction, $50+k for a 924 https://rmsothebys.com/en/auctions/po18/the-porsch...

Not a turbo, not a Carrera GT/GTS, just a standard (painfully slow) 924; regardless of mileage and condition, no one in their right mind could think that is an investment (i.e. it will go up in price) - sentimental value to the new owner perhaps is my only guess.

I'm a big Porsche fan, but the current prices in the market frankly sadden me (basically sour as I can't afford those prices and wish the days of the GBP 15k 928 GTS and 964 and GBP 25k 993 would come back, soon).

Plus, am I the only one who thinks the subject 993 Gold thingy looks horrendous? Not doubting Porsche worked its magic on it, but the black 993 Turbo S which was sold in that auction looks delicious (although, again, silly price).

3795mpower

486 posts

130 months

Monday 29th October 2018
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I do hope this fashion for dark or black painted wheels ends soon.

I think it makes the car look like a back street lash up.

Filibuster

3,154 posts

215 months

Monday 29th October 2018
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Am an absolute Porsche Fanboy, but this is just plain stupid!
Same as with the DB4GT Recreations that are not road legal, I can't see the point in it.

You'd be so much better off going to Gunther Werks and buy a 400 R from them



I understand it may not be to everyones taste, but they can do whatever you want them to do.
For way less than half of what Porsche wants for the Project Gold and it is road legal!

Even their upcoming all carbon Sports Tourer won't be £2.5m!








I know where my money would go!!

gigglebug

2,611 posts

122 months

Monday 29th October 2018
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Filibuster said:
Am an absolute Porsche Fanboy, but this is just plain stupid!
Same as with the DB4GT Recreations that are not road legal, I can't see the point in it.

You'd be so much better off going to Gunther Werks and buy a 400 R from them



I understand it may not be to everyones taste, but they can do whatever you want them to do.
For way less than half of what Porsche wants for the Project Gold and it is road legal!

Even their upcoming all carbon Sports Tourer won't be £2.5m!








I know where my money would go!!
Contributing 2.5 million to a charity is just plain stupid?? I think you are completely missing the whole point of the exercise don't you think?

That Gunther looks pretty epic by the way.

wab172uk

2,005 posts

227 months

Monday 29th October 2018
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As you can't drive it on the road, then what's the point?

Sat in some collectors garage, never to see the light of day again. But I suppose same collector will have lots of cars that never get driven either.

Personally, for that kind of money, I'd be giving Singer a ring and ordering one of theirs instead. (though he's probably already got one)

Jon_S_Rally

3,406 posts

88 months

Monday 29th October 2018
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Amazing how many people are totally missing the point of this car. If you don't get it, Porsche don't care, as it was never aimed at you anyway.

It's not to my taste, but it's done its job (marketing) and raised a nice chunk of money for charity. Job done.

Cheib

23,248 posts

175 months

Monday 29th October 2018
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In the original coverage of the car when the auction was announced it was speculated that it could be road legal in the Middle East. Although at that price it’ll never be driven and in the US charitable donations are tax deductible aren’t they ?

2Btoo

3,426 posts

203 months

Monday 29th October 2018
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Cheib said:
In the original coverage of the car when the auction was announced it was speculated that it could be road legal in the Middle East. Although at that price it’ll never be driven ....
'Zactly. It's essentially an ornament; calling it a 'car' is not quite correct.

Cheib said:
... in the US charitable donations are tax deductible aren’t they ?
Depends upon a number of things but they can be, yes.

AW10

4,436 posts

249 months

Monday 29th October 2018
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The PH text ("A one-off 993 Turbo overhauled by Porsche itself ") contradicts Sotheby's text ("the body of “Project Gold” is an original, new-old-stock body shell from the factory in Zuffenhausen."). It's effectively a car built in 2018 that meets the regulations from 20 years ago so hard to road register in most countries.

That said they gave it 1998 VIN?!

Not sure a US buyer can claim the purchase as a charitable donation. They have received something quite tangible for their money and unless the Ferry Porsche Foundation is registered in the US and recognised as a charity by the IRS there's another problem to overcome.

Lastmin

89 posts

210 months

Monday 29th October 2018
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As charity the buyer can declare as a tax write off , see quite a bit at the barrett Jackson auctions. Means good news for the charity.

Lastmin

89 posts

210 months

Monday 29th October 2018
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Plus, I think the ferrari fxx was meant to be track only not road legal.

Goodwood few years back saw an fxx with the additional lighting fitted and small vinyl vrm plates fitted.

It can be done but no idea how.

slk 32

1,487 posts

193 months

Monday 29th October 2018
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There are people out there (not me unfortunately!) to whom $2.5m is merely a rounding error
Owning this is just a bit of willy waving and most probably tax deductible.

I worked a few years back with someone who worked with Larry Ellison of Oracle fame. When McLaren were selling the F1 he had them deliver one to his hotel on Park Lane. They backed it out of the low loader he drove it for a couple of minutes and then told one of his retinue to complete the purchase

Filibuster

3,154 posts

215 months

Tuesday 30th October 2018
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gigglebug said:
Contributing 2.5 million to a charity is just plain stupid?? I think you are completely missing the whole point of the exercise don't you think?

That Gunther looks pretty epic by the way.
One should read the whole article before writing what I did.... boxedin
Even tough it is in the sub title, I didn't realize it was for charity. I must come across as a right dick... banghead

Yes, I'm sorry, I was indeed missing the point completely....

gigglebug

2,611 posts

122 months

Tuesday 30th October 2018
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Filibuster said:
One should read the whole article before writing what I did.... boxedin
Even tough it is in the sub title, I didn't realize it was for charity. I must come across as a right dick... banghead

Yes, I'm sorry, I was indeed missing the point completely....
You are being a bit tough on yourself to be honest, no-one is immune to the odd cock up on here, and it was interesting to see the carbon Gunther which I was unaware off.