RE: Hyundai i30 Fastback N: PH Trade-Off!

RE: Hyundai i30 Fastback N: PH Trade-Off!

Sunday 20th January 2019

Hyundai i30 Fastback N: PH Trade-Off!

Hyundai's booted hot hatch has made an impression. But is there a half-price alternative to its talents?



Why have one hot hatch in your range, when you can have two? That, it seems, was the logic behind Hyundai's decision to launch an N version of its i30 Fastback. Not that we had any problem with that, of course; the more hot hatches the better, as far as we're concerned.

However, as we discovered when we took one for a spin last week, it turns out the Fastback N's character is subtly different. Hyundai's altered the suspension settings to make it more pliant, with a view to enhancing its appeal to the more mature customers the company thinks will be interested in the Fastback.

The result is a car that rides better, seemingly without sacrificing involvement or ability. "While it's not night and day different to the hatch, the Fastback seems more settled, less intimidated by speed humps and ridges, and undoubtedly a more relaxing place to sit at road pace," commented Mr Sheehan in his review. "It is the sort of subtle change which reduces fatigue on a long drive; not one which subverts the character of the car." Throw in the extra boot space you get from that elongated tail, and the Fastback N makes quite a compelling case for itself.


All the more so given it isn't exorbitantly priced, too, coming it at a fiver below £30,000; a lot of car and a lot of performance for the cash - especially backed up by that five-year warranty. That's going to make it tough to find a half-price alternative that does everything the i30 can. So, can we?

Our first thoughts turn to something actually rather Fastback-esque in shape: the Skoda Octavia vRS. It, too, features a fastback tail, and as a result boasts a vast boot - one even bigger than the i30's in fact. It also replicates the i30's trick of combining an engaging drive with the sort of comfort that makes it liveable-with every day. This one's done a relatively low mileage, and looks rather good in bright red. But there's a catch: it's considerably down on power, at just 220hp, and while the Octavia's fun it's still a little way off being as involving as the i30. We can do better.

Especially given that it's now actually possible to get something that's just as powerful as the Fastback N for half its price. Namely, this Seat Leon Cupra. With 280hp to its name, it's capable of hitting 62mph even quicker than the i30 can, in just 5.6 seconds, and as this one comes with adjustable suspension it has the Fastback's 'everyday comfort' remit sewn up too. There's a smattering of extra options, too, such as ambient lighting - hardly a must-have, but still a very appealing nice-to-have. Then again, is the Leon really a rival for the Fastback N? Boot space is, after all, on a par with the standard i30 hatch. Perhaps we could let it off that minor inconsistency, but more troubling, is the nagging feeling that for all its outright pace, the Cupra suffers from the same problem as its distant cousin, the Octavia, in that it's just not quite involving enough.


So this week's trade-off hero takes a hit on outright power in the name of driving excitement. The flip side is that it manages to squeeze some extra boot space back into the bargain - more, indeed, than the Fastback N can offer. And it even ticks the same 'alternative body style' box, too, because it's not your common-or-garden hatch. In fact, it's not a hatchback at all, because our choice this week is this Ford Focus ST-2 Estate.

An estate instead of a hot hatch? A bit of left-field thinking there, admittedly. But hear us out. For starters, this Focus is a happy halfway house between the Octavia and the Leon, being more powerful than the former, more spacious than the latter - and more involving than either.

This example, being a 2016 car, benefits from the facelift, which brought significant improvements to the ST's already excellent chassis and steering that made it into a truly exciting car to drive. "The ST no longer feels overawed by its output, finding remarkable traction and retaining great composure where experience of the old car would suggest it shouldn't," scribbled Mr Bird when he reviewed it back in 2012. "The brakes are strong even when they get a bit smoky, the engine still torquey and responsive, the suspension striking an excellent compromise between comfort and control. And there's not a single damn thing to configure, which makes a pleasant change."


Yet despite this, being the slightly more laidback ST, this Focus should also be relaxed enough for day-to-day life, making it the perfect answer to the Fastback N's more comfortable character. What's more, as we've already touched on, that estate tail means it's every bit as practical - indeed more so, with an extra 40 litres of boot, not to mention a lower load lip and a squarer, more usable space. Oh, and if you'll help yourself to a squiz at the specs below, you'll spot that the i30's extra weight means the Focus is considerably more efficient - which is the sort of thing that's going to help if you're after a daily that can entertain.

Downsides? Well, it'd be remiss of us not to point out that for all its dynamic abilities, the Focus isn't actually as quick as the i30; it gives away 25hp and nearly half a second in the race to 0-62mph. The Focus's interior isn't much cop either, being a confused mess of plasticky swooshes, but then it is at least livened by bright red inserts on the seat - in contrast to the i30's rather dour affair. And while this ST is only three years old, it's a touch on the leggy side with 39,000 miles under its wheels already. You'll have to live without the Hyundai's whopping warranty as well.

There are sacrifices are to be made, then. But if you're willing to do so, the Focus ST offers you much of what's good about the i30 Fastback N for a £15,000 saving, which is not to be sniffed at. Question is: would you?


SPECIFICATION - HYUNDAI I30 FASTBACK N
Engine:
1,998cc 4-cyl turbocharged
Transmission: 6-speed manual, front-wheel drive
Power (hp): 275@6,000rpm
Torque (lb ft): 260@1,450-4,700rpm
0-60mph: 6.1 sec
Top speed: 155mph
Weight: 1,516kg
MPG: 34mpg
CO2: 178g/km
Price: £29,995

SPECIFICATION - FORD FOCUS ST ESTATE
Engine:
2,000cc 4-cyl turbocharged
Transmission: 6-speed manual, front-wheel drive
Power (hp): 250@5,500rpm
Torque (lb ft): 250@1,750rpm
0-62mph: 6.5 sec
Top speed: 154mph
Weight: 1,362kg
MPG: 41.5mpg
CO2: 159g/km
Price: £14,995

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Dale487

Original Poster:

1,334 posts

123 months

Sunday 20th January 2019
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May I combine two of the suggestions; a SEAT Leon Cupra ST (estate to everyone else);

https://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/...

This is an ex-SEAT press car, so very well (& rather questionable) spec'd & over the £15k budget but not too far off - this was the only manual Cupra ST I could find when I was looking for a new car 2 years ago; other than it was 200 miles alway & over my budget - can you guess why I didn't buy it?

Hairymonster

1,428 posts

105 months

Sunday 20th January 2019
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Dale487 said:
May I combine two of the suggestions; a SEAT Leon Cupra ST (estate to everyone else);

https://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/...

This is an ex-SEAT press car, so very well (& rather questionable) spec'd & over the £15k budget but not too far off - this was the only manual Cupra ST I could find when I was looking for a new car 2 years ago; other than it was 200 miles alway & over my budget - can you guess why I didn't buy it?
That's definitely a contender, but those wheels would have to go!

DoubleD

22,154 posts

108 months

Sunday 20th January 2019
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The dashboard on the seat is so bland.

JMF894

5,504 posts

155 months

Sunday 20th January 2019
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Sort the wheels ands its a go from me...........

Dale487

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1,334 posts

123 months

Sunday 20th January 2019
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DoubleD said:
The dashboard on the seat is so bland.
It's not exactly thrilling to look at but it is angled towards the driver just like an E30 M3 (well any E30 3 series) - why did BMW ever stop doing this? And the sat nav screen is better placed than the Golf - up high, level with the dials.

Dale487

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1,334 posts

123 months

Sunday 20th January 2019
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Hairymonster said:
Dale487 said:
May I combine two of the suggestions; a SEAT Leon Cupra ST (estate to everyone else);

https://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/...

This is an ex-SEAT press car, so very well (& rather questionable) spec'd & over the £15k budget but not too far off - this was the only manual Cupra ST I could find when I was looking for a new car 2 years ago; other than it was 200 miles alway & over my budget - can you guess why I didn't buy it?
That's definitely a contender, but those wheels would have to go!
All the orange would have to go - it's worse than the Cupra copper over load we have to suffer now. I get this look on a hatch but not the estate - like the i30N Fastback, the buyer & target audience are a little more understated.

Mr Tidy

22,327 posts

127 months

Monday 21st January 2019
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Dale487 said:
All the orange would have to go - it's worse than the Cupra copper over load we have to suffer now. I get this look on a hatch but not the estate - like the i30N Fastback, the buyer & target audience are a little more understated.
I'd rather have the car in Orange - but if it has to be grey the orange bits look dreadful!

But the red Focus looks really great - definitely one to bear in mind in a few years time.

And any Focus usually drives at least as well as any of it's rivals.

Dale487

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1,334 posts

123 months

Monday 21st January 2019
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Mr Tidy said:
Dale487 said:
All the orange would have to go - it's worse than the Cupra copper over load we have to suffer now. I get this look on a hatch but not the estate - like the i30N Fastback, the buyer & target audience are a little more understated.
I'd rather have the car in Orange - but if it has to be grey the orange bits look dreadful!

But the red Focus looks really great - definitely one to bear in mind in a few years time.

And any Focus usually drives at least as well as any of it's rivals.
I agree the Leon would look better in orange - lighter colours work well on the Leon, as they show off the sharp creases really nicely.

I'm not a fan of looks of any Focus inside or out other than the MK1 but this one doesn't look bad in red - but the right/a good colour can make or break how good a car looks.


AJB88

12,420 posts

171 months

Monday 21st January 2019
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Dale487 said:
May I combine two of the suggestions; a SEAT Leon Cupra ST (estate to everyone else);

https://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/...

This is an ex-SEAT press car, so very well (& rather questionable) spec'd & over the £15k budget but not too far off - this was the only manual Cupra ST I could find when I was looking for a new car 2 years ago; other than it was 200 miles alway & over my budget - can you guess why I didn't buy it?
Doubt that is an ex-SEAT UK press car, its not got an O or K plate on it. Will be a dealer demo.

Hairymonster

1,428 posts

105 months

Monday 21st January 2019
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I'd have the Focus like a shot.

How does it manage to be more than 150Kg lighter than the Hyundai, have 20% better fuel consumption and emit less CO2?

Dale487

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1,334 posts

123 months

Monday 21st January 2019
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AJB88 said:
Dale487 said:
May I combine two of the suggestions; a SEAT Leon Cupra ST (estate to everyone else);

https://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/...

This is an ex-SEAT press car, so very well (& rather questionable) spec'd & over the £15k budget but not too far off - this was the only manual Cupra ST I could find when I was looking for a new car 2 years ago; other than it was 200 miles alway & over my budget - can you guess why I didn't buy it?
Doubt that is an ex-SEAT UK press car, its not got an O or K plate on it. Will be a dealer demo.
I stand corrected - there was a press car in same spec but that was a 15 plate, starting with a K.

AJB88

12,420 posts

171 months

Monday 21st January 2019
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Press are usually O plated these days, K are more likely to be staff cars.

kambites

67,568 posts

221 months

Monday 21st January 2019
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Hairymonster said:
How does it manage to be more than 150Kg lighter than the Hyundai, have 20% better fuel consumption and emit less CO2?
The fuel economy/CO2 difference will probably be because the Focus was tested on NEDC whereas the Hyundai was tested on WLTP.

Weight... who knows. Manufacturers' figures always need to be taken with a pinch of salt because they all measure in different ways. Parkers lists the Focus ST estate as 1461kg.

Edited by kambites on Monday 21st January 11:07

Dale487

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Monday 21st January 2019
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AJB88 said:
Press are usually O plated these days, K are more likely to be staff cars.
My ex-SEAT UK car on a 16 plate supports the K suffix theory.