RE: Mercedes-AMG drops top from 585hp GT R

RE: Mercedes-AMG drops top from 585hp GT R

Monday 4th March 2019

Mercedes-AMG drops top from 585hp GT R

The next logical step for the track focussed, uncompromising AMG flagship? A cabrio!



It’s fair to say that the AMG GT RΒ caused something of a stir on its 2017 arrival. While the standard GT was good, the R was incredible, as aggressive and rewarding as anything we’ve known from AMG. Those subjective impressions were supported by that 7:10 Nurburgring lap time, too.Β 

Now AMG is, in its own words, combining β€œits top model brimming with motorsport technology with the freedom of the open-air driving experience” with this car, the AMG GT R Roadster. Somewhere squeezed in between the S65 Final Edition, GLE53, SL Grand Edition, the last SLC and whatever the heck else Mercedes has planned, the GTR R will be shown to the world at Geneva this week.

To all intents and purposes, despite AMG dedicating more than 6,000 words to the press bumf, it’s the AMG GT R that we know (and very much like) with the GT Roadster described on PH as β€œthe best thing AMG has done to the GT”. Which sounds pretty encouraging, no?


For the GT R side of things, that means the 585hp 4.0-litre hot-V V8 with seven-speed dual-clutch gearbox in a transaxle, six drive modes and the very clever AMG Dynamics technology. Those beyond even its β€˜Master’ setting, which works in conjunction with Race drive mode, will be pleased to find the latest AMG Traction Control fitted as standard in the GT R Roadster. Once the driver has ventured to ESP off, they can use a wheel-mounted dial to β€œpre-select the slip on the driven rear axle nine levels.” So yes, sadly that means the very cool dash mounted TC selector has gone, but at least the technology remains.Β 

Other modifications from GT to GT R include composite brakes (with ceramics optional), the rear axle steering, the AMG coilovers, forged aluminium suspension bits and Michelin Cup 2 tyres. Don’t forget, too, the active aero underneath, wider rear arches, that giant spoiler and forged wheels - GT to GT R was a serious transformation, and that’s carried over almost wholesale to the Roadster.

As for the conversion from coupe to cabrio, the GT R uses the same aluminium, magnesium and steel roof as the other soft tops in the range. AMG says it’s a light weight structure, and keeps the centre of gravity low. In terms of overall weight the Roadster carries an 80kg penalty over the standard GT R, meaning an official figure of 1,710kg with a driver. For a point of reference, an R8 V10 Plus Spyder is 1,770kg by the same measure and a Ferrari Portofino is 1,739kg, so the AMG is in the ballpark; it’s just that a McLaren 600LT Spider is 1,481kg with fluids and driver…


That’s a relevant comparison, too, because this AMG GT R Roadster will be a limited-run car just like the McLaren. Mercedes will make 750, marked out by a centre console plaque. AMG boss Tobias Moers describes it as a β€œhighly exclusive variant” that β€œembodies Mercedes-AMG in form, function and vehicle dynamics and enriches our GT family.”

For now it’s unclear how many GT R Roadsters will be allocated to the UK from the run of 750, leave alone how much they might cost. For some idea, a GT R Coupe is Β£145,730, and the regular GT Roadster models carry a premium of Β£11,400 over their hardtop equivalents. Factor in the exclusivity of a limited run and the GT R Roadster could be in excess of Β£160,000 - full spec details as we have them.








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RDMcG

Original Poster:

14,166 posts

156 months

Sunday 3rd March 2019
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I have to say that the design leaves me cold. None of the grace of older Mercedes, just a sort of aggressive brutality. Not for me.

breadvan

1,494 posts

117 months

Sunday 3rd March 2019
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Not too sure about that wing......

B17NNS

18,504 posts

196 months

Sunday 3rd March 2019
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breadvan said:
Not too sure about that wing......
It’s not good is it.

dandare

610 posts

203 months

Sunday 3rd March 2019
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Not even a hint of elegance or beauty.

I'm sure the engine is pretty nice, and the handling ok, but I would be very embarassed to be seen in that monster. I bet they'll sell out pretty quickly.

cmoose

45,596 posts

178 months

Monday 4th March 2019
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More proof that crass boot spoilers pinched from a 90s Vauxhall are now the very height of trophy car fashion.

What the actual fk?

DanielSan

14,623 posts

116 months

Monday 4th March 2019
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I'd like mine in green please

Uggers

1,184 posts

160 months

Monday 4th March 2019
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Needs more grills, slats, vents, cutouts, slashes and swage lines smile

Raygun

3,067 posts

69 months

Monday 4th March 2019
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To the untrained eye it's no different to the next door neighbours £15 grand s/h Merc convertible, having ludicrous amounts of power is useless if you intend to use it most of the time on roads here in the UK especially here in the South East and lose loads of money on depreciation. AMG use to be a rare sight been done to death now.

GTEYE

1,479 posts

159 months

Monday 4th March 2019
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It seems AMG have contracted out the styling to....Hot Wheels.

Robert-nszl1

385 posts

37 months

Monday 4th March 2019
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"GT R uses the same aluminium, magnesium and steel roof as the other soft tops in the range".....but the roof itself is cloth?

Cloth tops seem a bit old school for convertible versions of these supercars with both Ferrari and McLaren having moved the game on rather. Given Mercedes history of producing convertible hard tops, it's a shame the AMG GT doesn't have one

Gameface

11,034 posts

26 months

Monday 4th March 2019
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The standard GTC is absolutely lovely.

This seems crass in comparison.

diffingo

12 posts

129 months

Monday 4th March 2019
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Change the record Mercedes. Nothing that weighs 1710kg without a driver is “track focussed”. With the right driver, Nurburgring times can easily be made half decent by brute force on the straights. This car will only be driven around towns by suited, balding men with a desperate need to demonstrate to anyone they can afford it. Not knocking the market for that and it will sell of course, just think it’s all a bit tragic to incessantly try and market these cars as anything more than fast GTs.

Brooking10

7,860 posts

90 months

Monday 4th March 2019
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diffingo said:
Change the record Mercedes. Nothing that weighs 1710kg without a driver is “track focussed”. With the right driver, Nurburgring times can easily be made half decent by brute force on the straights. This car will only be driven around towns by suited, balding men with a desperate need to demonstrate to anyone they can afford it. Not knocking the market for that and it will sell of course, just think it’s all a bit tragic to incessantly try and market these cars as anything more than fast GTs.
Were the other 10 posts you have made over 10 years as insightful as this cliche riven gem ?

WTF is wrong with certain people on this site ?

Increasingly full of but jobs and folk who care more about expressing their well worn cliches as to who buys a car rather than the car itself.




berlintaxi

8,063 posts

122 months

Monday 4th March 2019
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Raygun said:
To the untrained eye it's no different to the next door neighbours £15 grand s/h Merc convertible,
rofl

kambites

57,661 posts

170 months

Monday 4th March 2019
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Raygun said:
To the untrained eye it's no different to the next door neighbours £15 grand s/h Merc convertible, having ludicrous amounts of power is useless if you intend to use it most of the time on roads here in the UK especially here in the South East and lose loads of money on depreciation. AMG use to be a rare sight been done to death now.
To my eye it's far easier to tell this from an SLK than, for example, a 911 GT2 from a base spec Cayman!

redroadster

1,041 posts

181 months

Monday 4th March 2019
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Looks overdone too much Botox .

housen

1,649 posts

141 months

Monday 4th March 2019
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sooooo this is like a soft top 911 gt3 ?

HighwayStar

2,644 posts

93 months

Monday 4th March 2019
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RDMcG said:
I have to say that the design leaves me cold. None of the grace of older Mercedes, just a sort of aggressive brutality. Not for me.
I’m with you there though I’ve never really been a Merc fan. I should like the GT series but I don’t. They do turn my head and if parked up I’d have a look but I don’t have an ounce of want for one.
They’re big, big inside... I didn’t find it a nice experience. I can see why others like them though.

Shiv_P

2,094 posts

54 months

Monday 4th March 2019
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Mercedes, the king of rinsing model variants

GT
GT S
GT C
GT R
GT R cab
GT 4 Door
GT 4 door S

all from one body shape

Going to challenge porsche soon tongue out

Vocht

1,369 posts

113 months

Monday 4th March 2019
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I find photos of the coupe GT R a bit awkward, but awesome in person. I suspect this will be the same!