RE: Mercedes-AMG drops top from 585hp GT R

RE: Mercedes-AMG drops top from 585hp GT R

Monday 4th March

Mercedes-AMG drops top from 585hp GT R

The next logical step for the track focussed, uncompromising AMG flagship? A cabrio!



It’s fair to say that the AMG GT R caused something of a stir on its 2017 arrival. While the standard GT was good, the R was incredible, as aggressive and rewarding as anything we’ve known from AMG. Those subjective impressions were supported by that 7:10 Nurburgring lap time, too. 

Now AMG is, in its own words, combining “its top model brimming with motorsport technology with the freedom of the open-air driving experience” with this car, the AMG GT R Roadster. Somewhere squeezed in between the S65 Final Edition, GLE53, SL Grand Edition, the last SLC and whatever the heck else Mercedes has planned, the GTR R will be shown to the world at Geneva this week.

To all intents and purposes, despite AMG dedicating more than 6,000 words to the press bumf, it’s the AMG GT R that we know (and very much like) with the GT Roadster described on PH as “the best thing AMG has done to the GT”. Which sounds pretty encouraging, no?


For the GT R side of things, that means the 585hp 4.0-litre hot-V V8 with seven-speed dual-clutch gearbox in a transaxle, six drive modes and the very clever AMG Dynamics technology. Those beyond even its ‘Master’ setting, which works in conjunction with Race drive mode, will be pleased to find the latest AMG Traction Control fitted as standard in the GT R Roadster. Once the driver has ventured to ESP off, they can use a wheel-mounted dial to “pre-select the slip on the driven rear axle nine levels.” So yes, sadly that means the very cool dash mounted TC selector has gone, but at least the technology remains. 

Other modifications from GT to GT R include composite brakes (with ceramics optional), the rear axle steering, the AMG coilovers, forged aluminium suspension bits and Michelin Cup 2 tyres. Don’t forget, too, the active aero underneath, wider rear arches, that giant spoiler and forged wheels - GT to GT R was a serious transformation, and that’s carried over almost wholesale to the Roadster.

As for the conversion from coupe to cabrio, the GT R uses the same aluminium, magnesium and steel roof as the other soft tops in the range. AMG says it’s a light weight structure, and keeps the centre of gravity low. In terms of overall weight the Roadster carries an 80kg penalty over the standard GT R, meaning an official figure of 1,710kg with a driver. For a point of reference, an R8 V10 Plus Spyder is 1,770kg by the same measure and a Ferrari Portofino is 1,739kg, so the AMG is in the ballpark; it’s just that a McLaren 600LT Spider is 1,481kg with fluids and driver…


That’s a relevant comparison, too, because this AMG GT R Roadster will be a limited-run car just like the McLaren. Mercedes will make 750, marked out by a centre console plaque. AMG boss Tobias Moers describes it as a “highly exclusive variant” that “embodies Mercedes-AMG in form, function and vehicle dynamics and enriches our GT family.”

For now it’s unclear how many GT R Roadsters will be allocated to the UK from the run of 750, leave alone how much they might cost. For some idea, a GT R Coupe is £145,730, and the regular GT Roadster models carry a premium of £11,400 over their hardtop equivalents. Factor in the exclusivity of a limited run and the GT R Roadster could be in excess of £160,000 - full spec details as we have them.








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RDMcG

Original Poster:

12,979 posts

146 months

Sunday 3rd March
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I have to say that the design leaves me cold. None of the grace of older Mercedes, just a sort of aggressive brutality. Not for me.

breadvan

1,300 posts

107 months

Sunday 3rd March
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Not too sure about that wing......

B17NNS

17,959 posts

186 months

Sunday 3rd March
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breadvan said:
Not too sure about that wing......
It’s not good is it.

dandare

574 posts

193 months

Sunday 3rd March
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Not even a hint of elegance or beauty.

I'm sure the engine is pretty nice, and the handling ok, but I would be very embarassed to be seen in that monster. I bet they'll sell out pretty quickly.

cmoose

43,891 posts

168 months

Monday 4th March
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More proof that crass boot spoilers pinched from a 90s Vauxhall are now the very height of trophy car fashion.

What the actual fk?
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DanielSan

13,791 posts

106 months

Monday 4th March
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I'd like mine in green please

Uggers

1,025 posts

150 months

Monday 4th March
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Needs more grills, slats, vents, cutouts, slashes and swage lines smile

Raygun

2,452 posts

59 months

Monday 4th March
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To the untrained eye it's no different to the next door neighbours £15 grand s/h Merc convertible, having ludicrous amounts of power is useless if you intend to use it most of the time on roads here in the UK especially here in the South East and lose loads of money on depreciation. AMG use to be a rare sight been done to death now.

GTEYE

1,274 posts

149 months

Monday 4th March
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It seems AMG have contracted out the styling to....Hot Wheels.

Robert-nszl1

347 posts

27 months

Monday 4th March
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"GT R uses the same aluminium, magnesium and steel roof as the other soft tops in the range".....but the roof itself is cloth?

Cloth tops seem a bit old school for convertible versions of these supercars with both Ferrari and McLaren having moved the game on rather. Given Mercedes history of producing convertible hard tops, it's a shame the AMG GT doesn't have one

Gameface

7,562 posts

16 months

Monday 4th March
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The standard GTC is absolutely lovely.

This seems crass in comparison.

diffingo

11 posts

119 months

Monday 4th March
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Change the record Mercedes. Nothing that weighs 1710kg without a driver is “track focussed”. With the right driver, Nurburgring times can easily be made half decent by brute force on the straights. This car will only be driven around towns by suited, balding men with a desperate need to demonstrate to anyone they can afford it. Not knocking the market for that and it will sell of course, just think it’s all a bit tragic to incessantly try and market these cars as anything more than fast GTs.

Brooking10

4,273 posts

80 months

Monday 4th March
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diffingo said:
Change the record Mercedes. Nothing that weighs 1710kg without a driver is “track focussed”. With the right driver, Nurburgring times can easily be made half decent by brute force on the straights. This car will only be driven around towns by suited, balding men with a desperate need to demonstrate to anyone they can afford it. Not knocking the market for that and it will sell of course, just think it’s all a bit tragic to incessantly try and market these cars as anything more than fast GTs.
Were the other 10 posts you have made over 10 years as insightful as this cliche riven gem ?

WTF is wrong with certain people on this site ?

Increasingly full of but jobs and folk who care more about expressing their well worn cliches as to who buys a car rather than the car itself.




berlintaxi

7,654 posts

112 months

Monday 4th March
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Raygun said:
To the untrained eye it's no different to the next door neighbours £15 grand s/h Merc convertible,
rofl

kambites

56,113 posts

160 months

Monday 4th March
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Raygun said:
To the untrained eye it's no different to the next door neighbours £15 grand s/h Merc convertible, having ludicrous amounts of power is useless if you intend to use it most of the time on roads here in the UK especially here in the South East and lose loads of money on depreciation. AMG use to be a rare sight been done to death now.
To my eye it's far easier to tell this from an SLK than, for example, a 911 GT2 from a base spec Cayman!

redroadster

860 posts

171 months

Monday 4th March
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Looks overdone too much Botox .

housen

1,507 posts

131 months

Monday 4th March
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sooooo this is like a soft top 911 gt3 ?

HighwayStar

2,223 posts

83 months

Monday 4th March
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RDMcG said:
I have to say that the design leaves me cold. None of the grace of older Mercedes, just a sort of aggressive brutality. Not for me.
I’m with you there though I’ve never really been a Merc fan. I should like the GT series but I don’t. They do turn my head and if parked up I’d have a look but I don’t have an ounce of want for one.
They’re big, big inside... I didn’t find it a nice experience. I can see why others like them though.

Shiv_P

1,585 posts

44 months

Monday 4th March
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Mercedes, the king of rinsing model variants

GT
GT S
GT C
GT R
GT R cab
GT 4 Door
GT 4 door S

all from one body shape

Going to challenge porsche soon tongue out

Vocht

1,259 posts

103 months

Monday 4th March
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I find photos of the coupe GT R a bit awkward, but awesome in person. I suspect this will be the same!