RE: Mountune offers sequential 'box for Mk2 Focus RS

RE: Mountune offers sequential 'box for Mk2 Focus RS

Thursday 14th March

Mountune offers sequential 'box for Mk2 Focus RS

A Quaife-made five-speed race unit will work with the standard car's powertrain, and is flat-shift capable



Mountune is now offering Mk2 Ford Focus RS owners in Britain a sequential gearbox upgrade, using hardware supplied by Quaife. The five-speed 'box replaces the standard RS H-pattern synchronised one to offer far quicker shift times and, if paired with an aftermarket ECU or additional ignition-cutting system, flat shifts for maximum bwarp-bwarp awesomeness.

Quaife's QKE45Z transmission can be fitted to the RS on its original M66-'box mounts and requires no modifications to the standard bellhousing, clutch or driveshafts. The same is true for the limited-slip differential, because the Mk2 RS already has a Quaife ATB as standard, as part of its torque-steer quelling setup which also included those RevoKnuckle struts.


Make the change and David Moore, Mountune director, said it'll provide "a great performance upgrade over the standard manual shifter and feels extremely engaging as a driver." More importantly than that, with a Volvo-supplied five-pot under the bonnet producing 305hp and 325lb ft of torque, it should also make the RS sound like a proper touring car racer/rally renegade. Course, a motorsport-spec upgrade will come with a motorsport-spec price; the 'box alone costs £8,030, before fitting.

Mountune provides two options for the sequential transmission's final drive - one for straight-cut gearsets and one helical engagement option. Whatever option you go for, all of the cogs are said to wider and tougher than the originals for reliability and to allow the far quicker change times. The gearbox also runs with a Mountune gearbox breather system, which mounts to the bulkhead and keeps the oil temp in check when you're banging up and down the ratios.


Since the M66 gearbox was also used in the same-generation Focus ST, as well as Volvo models from the 30 to 70 series line-ups, Mountune said the Quaife QKE45Z setup can also work in those cars, although the firm recommends adding the ATB diff to ensure it can do the job properly.

Come on then PH, who's for it? Maximum hero points are up for grabs if that sequential finds its way into a Volvo V70...

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Water Fairy

Original Poster:

2,775 posts

94 months

Thursday 14th March
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So you're looking at over 10k including fitting then?

scratchchin

David87

5,132 posts

151 months

Thursday 14th March
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Cool, but also insane. Is there really a market for this?!

Jon_S_Rally

223 posts

27 months

Thursday 14th March
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Water Fairy said:
So you're looking at over 10k including fitting then?

scratchchin
Pretty standard for a sequential box to be honest.

I can't say this gaining many buyers for the road market. Focus RS/ST doesn't seem big in the motorsport world either. Doing something like this for the MK7 Fiesta ST would be a good shout though...

mstrbkr

6,942 posts

137 months

Thursday 14th March
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That gear display right down by the stick, plus being mounted flat looks like an awful user experience. The vent mounted one however (loss of climate performance aside) looks great.

KingNothing

2,221 posts

92 months

Thursday 14th March
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I'll stick with my manual box and £10k in my bank instead. If i had a dedicated track car like some do, would have considered it.
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RacerMike

2,159 posts

150 months

Thursday 14th March
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Genuinely don’t know why you’d fit a sequential to a road car. They’re absolutely horrible in anything other than flat out shifts. The clutches are monumentally heavy and really difficult to modulate and the shift quality is abusive at best! I suspect a well driven manual would happily match it on shift speed too.

Jamescrs

163 posts

4 months

Thursday 14th March
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David87 said:
Cool, but also insane. Is there really a market for this?!
I suspect not, this was available around 12 months ago from Mountune, was certainly on offer last Summer. I'd guess that they are pushing it on Pistonheads now because the take up has been minimal and they are looking at as a way of remarketing it.

I used to be quite heavily into the Ford scene, specifically Mk2 Focus's and I could think of maybe a handful of people who would go for this

mooseracer

446 posts

109 months

Thursday 14th March
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Yep, really can't see the market for this. Guess it must be there though else why develop and release it? A better idea might be having stuff in stock that people actually do want to buy.

scottygib553

61 posts

34 months

Thursday 14th March
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I'd imagine this would be absolutely fantastic........for a few minutes. Defo a track day toy upgrade.

TheVole

462 posts

92 months

Thursday 14th March
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If my C30 T5 toy was a money-no-object build and spent more time than it currently does on the track, I'd be very interested in this.

It'll find some sales in the Ford scene with those who track their RS/STs.

Augustus Windsock

1,614 posts

94 months

Thursday 14th March
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I’ll go with the majority on this and say ‘great, but why...?’
As standard mk2 Focii RS models start to dwindle, only a fool would take their car away from standard (or a Ford approved Mountune engine upgrade) surely.
The value in cars like these is in them being standard, and down the track buyers will be paying a premium for them, whereas all I forseee is pain for anyone who spunk’s up £10k on something that most people won’t want and then try’s to get top £££ for their car at resale time.
As others have said, yes if it’s for a track car but otherwise I’d rather hammer blunt rusty nails into my eyeballs...

Nerdherder

511 posts

36 months

Thursday 14th March
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Water Fairy said:
So you're looking at over 10k including fitting then?

scratchchin
scratchchin indeed.


WCZ

6,283 posts

133 months

Thursday 14th March
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is there any benefit of a sequential box over a dsg? (just wondering)

mooseracer

446 posts

109 months

Thursday 14th March
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Yes, it's not an automatic wink

Robmarriott

1,408 posts

97 months

Thursday 14th March
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Augustus Windsock said:
The value in cars like these is in them being standard, and down the track buyers will be paying a premium for them
This is sort of true but we're only ten years down the line, at ten years old, people were paying the premium for modified Escort Cosworths, at ten years old, you couldn't find a standard Escort RS Turbo...

Now, years later, everyone has put their modified stuff back to standard because they're worth more money that way.

While I do agree the Focus will be worth more as a standard car one day, we're not quite there, it's not an appreciating classic Ford yet.

Water Fairy

Original Poster:

2,775 posts

94 months

Thursday 14th March
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mooseracer said:
Yes, it's not an automatic wink
I didn't think a DSG was either. I thought they were dual clutch robotised manuals...............................................

Jon_S_Rally

223 posts

27 months

Thursday 14th March
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WCZ said:
is there any benefit of a sequential box over a dsg? (just wondering)
Well, you can't get a DSG (or twin clutch auto) in a Focus RS, so it's a bit of a moot point.

I just watched the video and that was in a MK3 Focus RS. Bet that could make a fun car!

st4

1,359 posts

72 months

Thursday 14th March
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That looks brilliant biggrin

Bright Halo

594 posts

174 months

Thursday 14th March
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That would be a great trackday upgrade.
I presume it is made to order and not a stock item?
There must have been some demand to warrant the development unless it also fits some race series application and this is a fortunate bi product for road going cars?

GroundEffect

11,227 posts

95 months

Thursday 14th March
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Water Fairy said:
mooseracer said:
Yes, it's not an automatic wink
I didn't think a DSG was either. I thought they were dual clutch robotised manuals...............................................
They're autos.

A sequential box is lighter and gives that full because racecar experience.