RE: TVR finally hurdles factory delay

RE: TVR finally hurdles factory delay

Tuesday 11th June

TVR finally hurdles factory delay

Griffith production closer to reality as a builder is selected for troubled Ebbw Vale site



It’s been four years since the relaunched TVR announced its intentions to build a new sports car; since then, we only have a Griffith prototype to show for its efforts. Recently, logistic issues relating to its planned Ebbw Vale production facility have prevented the brand from making real ground, but now, following an extensive EU-wide tender process handled by the Welsh Government, a constructor has been selected – meaning real work on the site should be able to begin this year.

TVR has reported on its Facebook page that the delay in announcing a contractor was related to the discovery of “some harmful and unusual substances” in the 200,000 square foot building, which used to be a Techboard factory, alongside “the condition of the main roof and the fire system's water storage tanks”. 


Apparently the firm had also failed to foresee just how extensive the search for a building contractor would need to be as a result of Welsh Government financial backing. It had expected to be selecting from a small pool of local candidates, but EU investment requires that tenders are accepted from across Europe. Which sounds time consuming. 

All of this meant that TVR has kept pushing back its expected launch date for the Griffith from the initial pledge of 2017. Only now, with a builder successfully nominated can the idea of building 2,000 cars a years said to be back on track - and even then the statement talks about “a few bits and pieces that need to be tied up.” The latest predictions suggest that first deliveries of the Launch Edition model ought to kick off in late 2020, with the volume car appearing a year later. 


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CedricN

Original Poster:

430 posts

87 months

Tuesday 11th June
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I hope they don't stress it out with catastrophic build quality, that would be devestating when building a "new" brand. I only worked at a big oem, but that time plans sounds quite optimistic..

GTEYE

1,351 posts

152 months

Tuesday 11th June
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2,000 cars a year will never happen, I just don’t believe it, sorry.

malaccamax

780 posts

173 months

Tuesday 11th June
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They'll be showing the facelifted model soon. Looking forward to it

cookie1600

1,143 posts

103 months

Tuesday 11th June
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Still a way to go to beat the record of the production Celica, from teaser to showroom and Toyota had a factory to build it in!

BigChiefmuffinAgain

110 posts

40 months

Tuesday 11th June
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Late 2020 , as in 18 months, still seems very optimistic.

There's a lot of work involved in kitting out a 200,000 sq ft factory ( especially if there are problems with the roof ) and until it is finished, it is very hard to even start to recruit and then train the staff.

Someone has to take a close look at their critical paths, me thinks.
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Nerdherder

685 posts

39 months

Tuesday 11th June
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malaccamax said:
They'll be showing the facelifted model soon. Looking forward to it
Yes please. Could do with improved proportionality in several areas.

3.1416

275 posts

3 months

Tuesday 11th June
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Isn't there a Ford factory about to become free somewhere in Welshland?

Yes - I know - the wrong type of factory.

wobble

MDL111

3,476 posts

119 months

Tuesday 11th June
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Actually design is looking better to my eyes now than when it was launched
I really hope they succeed although Brexit and the potential import duties related to that can’t be helpful to pricing it competitively (I doubt that the UK buyers will gobble up 2k units - or whatever they need to sell to break even - a year)

Mainissuecar

1 posts

Tuesday 11th June
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Unfortunate choice for a factory if you read the history of it. Multiple business failures on the site!!

https://www.tredegar.co.uk/tech-board/website/

unsprung

2,783 posts

66 months

Tuesday 11th June
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A: "The Americans will buy 2,000 units all by themselves. Did we get that US certification sorted?"

B: "Er... No."

A: "Jiang, Mate, how are things these days in Shanghai?"




chj

714 posts

155 months

Tuesday 11th June
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Nerdherder said:
malaccamax said:
They'll be showing the facelifted model soon. Looking forward to it
Yes please. Could do with improved proportionality in several areas.
I liked the shape but now it looks dated already ... I guess there have been so many similar pics released. A freshen up definitely needed.

mikEsprit

711 posts

128 months

Tuesday 11th June
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chj said:
Nerdherder said:
malaccamax said:
They'll be showing the facelifted model soon. Looking forward to it
Yes please. Could do with improved proportionality in several areas.
I liked the shape but now it looks dated already ... I guess there have been so many similar pics released. A freshen up definitely needed.
It's the lame Mazda face that's the problem. Looks great from the back.

British Beef

1,183 posts

107 months

Tuesday 11th June
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I get the feeling that the gestation period for this TVR may outlive the internal combustion engine!

Front end still does not jive with TVR brand for aggressive raw sports car, just looks too Japanese. Should have started with a Sagaris front end!!

DoctorX

4,377 posts

109 months

Tuesday 11th June
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mikEsprit said:
It's the lame Mazda face that's the problem. Looks great from the back.
yes although the back does remind me of a new Supra.

BadBull

295 posts

14 months

Tuesday 11th June
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Too little, too late.

The world has moved on.

FN2TypeR

6,015 posts

35 months

Tuesday 11th June
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People are still talking about this?

Wowza

ChocolateFrog

4,877 posts

115 months

Tuesday 11th June
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If a production car rolls out of the factory in 2020 I'd eat my hat.

I still think there's a market, look at the abject excuse of a sports car that the Supra has become.

Hopefully the delays will allow a redesign of the awkward looking bits.

It must be possible to produce a good looking 500hp, 6 speed manual, 2 door, 1200kg, rear wheel drive sports car for £60k in a way that's compliant and profitable.

Hitch

5,577 posts

136 months

Tuesday 11th June
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They should call it the TVR Brexit; delayed time after time and increasingly unlikely to happen!

kambites

56,709 posts

163 months

Tuesday 11th June
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ChocolateFrog said:
It must be possible to produce a good looking 500hp, 6 speed manual, 2 door, 1200kg, rear wheel drive sports car for £60k in a way that's compliant and profitable.
I rather doubt it. Getting a modern type-approved car that light whilst able to handle that sort of power isn't cheap and the market for such a car would be too small for economies of scale to help much.

Edited by kambites on Tuesday 11th June 20:15

Dischordant

600 posts

143 months

Tuesday 11th June
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Given the amount of time they've had - they should have designed an alternative to the front grill by now.