RE: Jaguar F-Type to get inline-six and new look

RE: Jaguar F-Type to get inline-six and new look

Thursday 8th August

Facelifted F-Type caught on video | Update

New footage of Jaguar's revised sports car suggests a V8 is present and correct - but which one?



JLR remains tight-lipped about what is said to be a far-reaching deal with BMW over new petrol (and diesel) engines - which makes the future deployment of German-built motors an intriguing prospect for the outsider. Case in point: the new F-Type, currently testing at the Nurburgring and expected in a showroom near you next year. Many tailpipes and all the right noises from one of the circling test mules suggest that a V8 will remain at the heart of the model's quicker variants - but whether or not the engine in question is JLR's familiar 5.0-litre supercharged unit or Munich's twin-turbocharged 4.4-litre V8 is a matter for discussion.

Rumours have had the latter picked out for the new F-Type for a while - and we certainly know that the Ford factory in Bridgend responsible for supplying the former is due to close up shop in 2020. But if it's BMW's motor doing the pushing, Jaguar has done a remarkably good job of reproducing the huge soundtrack the old V8 is notorious for. It's also been suggested to PH that Gaydon's deal with Ford ought to see its supply of newly-built V8s last well into next year...


So is Jaguar planning on lowering the curtain on one engine? Or raising it for another? Either way, we're expecting a power hike for the range-topping SVR, currently at 575hp. Something close to (or beyond) 600hp would be an ideal way of keeping the F-Type welded to the back of the latest Porsche 911 and both engines are proven at that level. A boost to the most potent two-door Jaguar would have the added benefit of clearing some space to the new inline six-cylinder models expected to sit beneath it. They will of course earn the assistance of JLRโ€™s 48v hybrid electric technology, expected to give the quickest versions an anticipated 400hp โ€“ as the British-built powerplant does in the Range Rover Sport HST.

With a 400hp output, Jagโ€™s mid-range F-Type would also hold a comfortable advantage over the 340hp (or 370-380hp as rolling road tests have suggested) BMW Z4 M40i and identically-engined Toyota Supra. And thanks to the introduction of electrification, fuel economy and CO2 should also receive a sizeable cut, helping to enhance the Jagโ€™s appeal into the 2020s. However, the lowest running costs will likely remain with the entry-level four cylinders, which are also confirmed in the video.ย 

Original story - 02.07.2019

Jaguar is working to keep its F-Type fighting fit well into the next decade by giving it a significant facelift and substantial technical updates. Seen here testing with a new design at the Nurburgring, the car looks almost unrecognisable at the front with its longer overhang (probably thanks to the latest crash and pedestrian regs), lines borrowed from the I-Pace and, dare we say it, a face not too dissimilar to the first Audi R8โ€™s. Things are far more familiar at the back and the profile, door and window lines of the F-Typeโ€™s aluminium structure are unmistakable, but the overall changes dwarf those applied at the last update in 2017.

Itโ€™ll be a similar story when it comes to the technical changes due for the 2020 car, because Jaguar will continue its phasing out of supercharged V6 power by swapping the F-Typeโ€™s bent six with the new inline one. The 3.0-litre Ingenium powerplant was first added to the Range Rover Sport HST where it uses 48v mild hybrid technology, which is also expected to be carried over the F-Type and could give it a decent bump in power. In the HST it has 400hp, which is handily 20hp more than offered in the present top six-pot F-Type that already outpunches the Toyota Supra.


This would leave space for a pure combustion version beneath the electrified car, with the current 2.0-litre four-pots retaining their entry level positions, albeit with the usual raft of cuts to CO2 and tweaks to performance. At the other end of the line-up, the V8 range-topper is set to remain safe on its pedestal because a halo SVR is too valuable to the F-Type. Plus, we think an F-Type range lacking a variant thatโ€™s brutish and emotional enough to rival Porscheโ€™s 992 911 would no doubt feel lacking. WLTP might strangle the 5.0-litre unit a bit more, but we suspect JLRโ€™s engineers will be working to ensure the supercharged powerplant can at least maintain its 575hp output. Then there's the talk of a late introduction of BMW V8 power...

As for the rest of the changes, the cabin is set for an equally substantial overhaul with more digital infotainment; itโ€™s not ambitious to think the centre console will be given JLRโ€™s longer screen and the instrument cluster will be digitalised to match. The present carโ€™s design is far from unappealing but leaves a lot to be desired compared with interiors from Audi and Porsche, in terms of kit and technology. And we all know how much the general public values infotainment systems these days, even on a car of this stature.

Just how far JLR can push what will be seven-year-old interior architecture to ensure the F-Type remains a competitive offering amongst its younger rivals, remains to be seen. Itโ€™ll need to last until an all-new successor can pick-up the baton deeper into the decade, though. Rumour is, that one could be all-electric.







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Tominator

Original Poster:

4 posts

23 months

Tuesday 2nd July
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Finally, it won't look a bit like a Hyundai from the front!

robertdon777

22 posts

7 months

Tuesday 2nd July
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A car surviving on the sales of internal cars to Managers and Staff...RIP Jag Sports cars

Hello SUV's and Electric cars

Phil Dicky

5,683 posts

207 months

Tuesday 2nd July
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Which Hyundai does the old one look like ?

treeroy

452 posts

29 months

Tuesday 2nd July
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Tominator said:
Finally, it won't look a bit like a Hyundai from the front!
What?

PRND

1,588 posts

42 months

Tuesday 2nd July
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You can see the headlight outline and it looks suspiciously like the new Aston V8 Vantage.

RumbleOfThunder

2,825 posts

147 months

Tuesday 2nd July
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It's about time they dropped that old V6.

kambites

57,212 posts

165 months

Tuesday 2nd July
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PRND said:
You can see the headlight outline and it looks suspiciously like the new Aston V8 Vantage.
To be fair it also looks much like the XE and all of the other current Jaguars.

HRCM

63 posts

33 months

Tuesday 2nd July
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Did he actually say 'on trend'?

Riverside Red

866 posts

79 months

Tuesday 2nd July
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Wonder if you'll be able to get two pints of milk in the boot of the roadster now.

RR

HighwayStar

2,480 posts

88 months

Tuesday 2nd July
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Seems strange there was no mention of the next F Type getting BMW V8 power.....
https://www.carmagazine.co.uk/spy-shots/jaguar/f-t...

LotusOmega375D

4,296 posts

97 months

Tuesday 2nd July
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A straight 6 in a Jag seems right to traditionalists like me. Although I had to re-read the 48v bit: my first thought was 48 valves, so 8 valves per cylinder. That would have been something special!

Idiot!

Kawasicki

6,179 posts

179 months

Tuesday 2nd July
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That front overhang looks odd to me.

wab172uk

1,354 posts

171 months

Tuesday 2nd July
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They need to make it lighter. It's a heavy old boot.

And they seriously need to re-educate their sales staff. Refused me a test drive of their demo V6 S Coupe years. Even though I rolled up in an R8 V8.

I guess their sales staff didn't get the email from Jaguar HQ that they are aiming for the 35+ age group for their cars. Guess they thought I was 25-30 years too young to bother with their time.

unsprung

3,294 posts

68 months

Tuesday 2nd July
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although it's a niche vehicle, I'm glad that it's being looked after

maybe the weight will come down a bit?

Hangten77

1 posts

10 months

Tuesday 2nd July
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Can't imagine what Hyundai the current F-Type looks like?! Even 6 years on still a great looking (and sounding) motor

Sam Sheehan

35 posts

81 months

Tuesday 2nd July
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HighwayStar said:
Seems strange there was no mention of the next F Type getting BMW V8 power.....
https://www.carmagazine.co.uk/spy-shots/jaguar/f-t...
Good point... That would certainly change the SVR's character quite drastically

Nerdherder

1,209 posts

41 months

Tuesday 2nd July
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HRCM said:
Did he actually say 'on trend'?
Hahaha, nearly laughed my b@11s off.

The new styling probably is a yes for me (bar te pictured gash wheels on the spy shots). Jag needs to price it more competititvely and/or needs to come up with smart financing constructions and/or to deliver the (currently) only EV in this market space, otherwise it will remain a tough sell over rivals.

Andy83n

51 posts

6 months

Tuesday 2nd July
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That straight six 'hybrid' would make a lovely e-Pace SVR

kambites

57,212 posts

165 months

Tuesday 2nd July
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Nerdherder said:
The new styling probably is a yes for me (bar te pictured gash wheels on the spy shots).
The ones on the cabriolet aren't bad.

Burwood

12,994 posts

190 months

Tuesday 2nd July
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Sam Sheehan said:
HighwayStar said:
Seems strange there was no mention of the next F Type getting BMW V8 power.....
https://www.carmagazine.co.uk/spy-shots/jaguar/f-t...
Good point... That would certainly change the SVR's character quite drastically
It will happen but only when their supply agreement with Ford expires, sometime next year.