Bringing a car over from Guernsey...help!!!!

Bringing a car over from Guernsey...help!!!!

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speedyollie

Original Poster:

77 posts

240 months

Wednesday 20th July 2005
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Hi all...I'm seriously considering bringing over a UK-spec Integra Type R from Guernsey. It's low mileage and the owner wants a quick sale so he's happy to let it go fairly cheap.

As I understand it I need to do the following:

1. Register it here (about £30)
2. MOT it (£40)
3. Tax it (£90ish)
4. Pay the VAT (eek)

Has anyone done this before and can anyone explain the registration process?

I understand that the car won't need an SVA as it's UK-spec; is that right?

Also, how will I go about insuring it? Can I just give my insurance company the VIN?

dennisthemenace

15,605 posts

280 months

Wednesday 20th July 2005
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why would you need to pay the vat ? guernsey is part of the uk ?
Just a case of getting it registered over here .

Truckosaurus

12,497 posts

296 months

Wednesday 20th July 2005
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Will there not also be import duty (10%) as technically the Channel Islands are outside the EU?

speedyollie

Original Poster:

77 posts

240 months

Wednesday 20th July 2005
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Is Guernsey part of the UK? I don't see how it could be without being in the EU as well! I'm not sure about the import duty, I'll ring Customs in the morning

Maybe I'll only have to pay import duty Doubt I'll be that lucky though, maybe this isn't the bargain it sounds like

darreni

4,130 posts

282 months

Thursday 21st July 2005
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Guernsey is NOT part of the UK, or the EU.
If the car has not had VAT paid on it within the EU, you WILL be liable for the VAT.

I bought my old Cerb in the UK (VAT paid), the brought it to Guernsey, registered it here & kept it for 2.5 years, the sold it back to a new UK owner. If the car had been outside the UK for more than 3 years, VAT would have to be paid again on reimportation to the UK!
I kid you not.

Speak to customs & Excise & the DVLA, both have information on how to import a car from the Channel Islands.

cy88

2,808 posts

242 months

Thursday 21st July 2005
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I live in Jersey (same VAT issues as Guernsey). My understanding is that if the car was initially bought in the Island, then you will need to pay VAT if importing it into the UK - the value will need to be agreed though - I don't think you will pay what the original VAT would have been.

I've never heard about the 3 year thing mentioned above. From my experience, if you buy a car in the UK (VAT paid) and bring it into the Island, you can sell it again in UK whenever you want without worrying about VAT again.

speedyollie

Original Poster:

77 posts

240 months

Thursday 21st July 2005
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Just spoke to Customs & Excise - import VAT on the value of the car is payable (i.e. the purchase price) when the car is brought over. Just need a form and it's that easy

Then I just need to show proof to the DVLA that the car is type approved in order to avoid an SVA test...not sure what documents I need to do this?

darreni

4,130 posts

282 months

Thursday 21st July 2005
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cy88 said:
I live in Jersey (same VAT issues as Guernsey). My understanding is that if the car was initially bought in the Island, then you will need to pay VAT if importing it into the UK - the value will need to be agreed though - I don't think you will pay what the original VAT would have been.

I've never heard about the 3 year thing mentioned above. From my experience, if you buy a car in the UK (VAT paid) and bring it into the Island, you can sell it again in UK whenever you want without worrying about VAT again.


Correct, the VAT payable is on the current value, not the new price, however, i believe that customs will establish the value, not the importer.

The 3 year thing may only be Guernsey, i think there are slightly different rules for Jersey, again contact C&E for clarification.

Contact Honda for the SVA docs, if an EU car then it will have type approval, if a jap import, then you may need sva test.

speedyollie

Original Poster:

77 posts

240 months

Thursday 21st July 2005
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Nope, just need a C384 form to declare the price of the vehicle, and a signed invoice in the event that further evidence is needed - the form also allows for factors affecting the car's value to be disclosed.

mcflurry

9,164 posts

265 months

Thursday 21st July 2005
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speedyollie said:
Then I just need to show proof to the DVLA that the car is type approved in order to avoid an SVA test...not sure what documents I need to do this?

The car should have a certificate of conformity with it. It will probably be with the car manual thingy.

gshughes

1,302 posts

267 months

Thursday 21st July 2005
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Sorry I can't help, but I always thought Jersey and Guernsey had blanket 30 mph speed limits, so what is the point of having anything faster than a 1 litre Micra (or old Triumph Roadster) there ?

speedyollie

Original Poster:

77 posts

240 months

Thursday 21st July 2005
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I know mate, and the guy I'm buying from is having a TVR next! It's only been to the UK once so I guess it won't have been thrashed like so many here, and no-one wants to buy it there hence his selling it cheap to little old me

cy88

2,808 posts

242 months

Thursday 21st July 2005
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gshughes said:
Sorry I can't help, but I always thought Jersey and Guernsey had blanket 30 mph speed limits, so what is the point of having anything faster than a 1 litre Micra (or old Triumph Roadster) there ?


ah, an old chestnut!

Speed limit ranges from 15mph to 40mph here. But that doesn't mean that there is no interest in motors . It would be like saying - when all you need to know is the time - what is the point of having an expensively engineered watch when a cheapo digital will suffice?

And don't forget that the continent is only a short boat trip away . A lot of petrolhead islanders I know make it to tracks in the UK and the continent on a very regular basis.

rubystone

11,254 posts

271 months

Thursday 21st July 2005
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Isn't Vazon 50 mph Cy?

darreni

4,130 posts

282 months

Thursday 21st July 2005
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rubystone said:
Isn't Vazon 50 mph Cy?



Vazon is Guernsey old boy!
Strictly a 35, but when you see some of the bikes along there, you'd think it was 135.

gilbertd

739 posts

254 months

Thursday 21st July 2005
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mcflurry said:

speedyollie said:
Then I just need to show proof to the DVLA that the car is type approved in order to avoid an SVA test...not sure what documents I need to do this?


The car should have a certificate of conformity with it. It will probably be with the car manual thingy.

If it isn't, DVLA will check the VIN number. They can tell from that if it is UK spec or not. You shouldn't need an SVA for a production car where that particular model has been officially imported.

rubystone

11,254 posts

271 months

Friday 22nd July 2005
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darreni said:

rubystone said:
Isn't Vazon 50 mph Cy?




Vazon is Guernsey old boy!
Strictly a 35, but when you see some of the bikes along there, you'd think it was 135.


No shit!...Cy didn't give a location - I guessed he was talking about Guernsey....