RE: Toyota GR Yaris vs. Ford Fiesta ST Edition

RE: Toyota GR Yaris vs. Ford Fiesta ST Edition

Wednesday 30th December 2020

Toyota GR Yaris vs. Ford Fiesta ST Edition

It's the Circuit Pack-equipped GR Yaris against probably the best Fiesta ST ever made. Place your bets...


 

Believe the hype - the Toyota GR Yaris is a brilliant little car. That is exists at all is a borderline miracle, because multinational car manufacturers are more cautious now than ever before and maverick vehicles like this, with its bespoke bodyshell and four-wheel drive system, have become vanishingly rare. Although it's a pity it now won't spawn Toyota's next World Rally Championship contender (because of coronavirus, the Japanese marque will use the same machine that won the 2020 drivers' title for 2021 before all-new regulations come into force the following year).

Nonetheless, the GR Yaris still carries itself with the assuredness of a full-blown homologation special. You can tell from the spread of its wheel arches and that gaping front air intake that this is no ordinary hatchback. Indeed, no ordinary performance hatchback. However, even the most eagerly anticipated and warmly received new cars must prove themselves against the established order, and the trouble for Toyota at this juncture is that the established order is phenomenally talented in its own right. For top-spec GR Yaris money you could have a Honda Civic Type R, which rewards those of us benevolent enough to overlook its rowdy exterior styling with what could well be the best front-wheel drive chassis on sale today.

Or maybe that honour belongs to the Ford Fiesta ST. A similar size to the Toyota but down on power by around 60hp, the Ford starts at a shade under £22,000 in ST-2 trim. It therefore undercuts the entry-level GR Yaris by £8,000. But we're not concerning ourselves with basic or entry-level models this time around - we've gone for the heavy hitters. That means the limited-run Fiesta ST Edition, which costs £27,075, and the GR Yaris Circuit Pack, which is more expensive by £6,500.



On paper the Toyota would appear to have the Ford well and truly licked. Both use turbocharged three-cylinders, the former's good for 261hp and 266lb ft of torque, the latter's making do with 200hp and 214lb ft. The GR Yaris distributes its power and torque to all four wheels, the Fiesta ST sending drive only to its front axle. Both boast chassis and powertrain upgrades not available on more basic variants - the GR Yaris Circuit Pack has uprated brakes, its own suspension settings and a Torsen LSD at each end, while the Fiesta ST Edition features manually-adjustable coilover suspension and an LSD.

As far as compact hot hatches go, these really are the heavyweights. Inevitably the Toyota is so much faster in a straight line that you almost pity the Ford, which requires 6.5 seconds to clock 62mph compared to 5.5 seconds for the GR Yaris. Curiously, though, the less powerful Fiesta ST will eventually leave the GR Yaris in its dust given enough space, since it will top out at a sprightly 144mph while the Toyota wheezes along at 143.

Both have supportive seats and decent driving positions, though the Ford puts you closer to the road. It also offers a little more room for rear seat passengers and a slightly bigger boot, although the Toyota's cabin is more interesting with its endless flowing forms, as though it was penned by the late Zaha Hadid. Its rear-view mirror is right in your face, though, like a drunk at a party. I guess that's because of the car's very low roofline. It means you duck your head down to look beyond it in tight left-handers.



I didn't get to drive this Circuit Pack car back-to-back with the Convenience Pack model, but I'm convinced it has a tougher, less supple ride. It feels quite firm around town, though it does level out beautifully with speed. Meanwhile, you're aware of the pair of LSDs seeming to screw the car down into the tarmac when you power away from a bend, clawing more traction and sharper drive out of a wet surface. Against a stopwatch it'll unquestionably be quicker, but I'm not yet persuaded the Circuit Pack car is actually more fun on the road.

So, what's it actually like to drive? It has that sense of purpose of a true motorsport-derived performance car, feeling uncompromising and tough. It finds tremendous grip and, of course, more or less unimpeachable traction even on a wet surface. There is plenty of weight to the steering, but also precision and detail. You know exactly how hard the front axle will bite and use every ounce of turn-in grip corner after corner.

Body control is boundless, but the chassis deals with poor asphalt admirably. There is a sense of poise and balance, of adjustability. With all that grip, control, agility and response, the GR Yaris is frighteningly quick along a road. It's little three-pot pulls furiously as well, feeling far stronger than the numbers suggest. The engine rips around to the limiter, while the manual gearshift is quick and tight. The auto-blip system, which you can banish at the press of a button, is, however, one of the least effective I've come across, because downshifts are often abrupt and jerky.



There is almost nothing to criticise about the way the Toyota finds its way along a challenging road. Almost. In Sport mode, which directs 70 per cent of the torque to the rear axle, the most rear-biased split available, you just about to start to feel the rear end coming around under power away from a bend, but only if grip is low and the corner both quick-ish and tackled in second gear. Perhaps it's a different matter on track where you have much more space to play with, but in a day's driving on great roads, only two or three times did I find myself sliding away from a bend with a fraction of corrective lock applied.

Does that even matter? Arguably not. But I do wish the GR Yaris was more playful at times and I suspect I won't be the only one. This will sound implausible, but the Fiesta ST is far more impish. Not away from a corner, of course, because with that LSD and only its front wheels powered, the Ford simply hauls itself away from the exit of a bend in the straightest line possible. It's on the way into a corner that the ST feels alive and exciting, its rear end sweeping around as the nose tucks into the apex in the most delicious way.

Twice. That's how many times the Ford made me laugh out loud. The first was when I pulled away from the car park for the first time and felt that eager little triple paddle as hard as it could. The fluttery sound it made and the gentle pressure it applied to the small of my back though the seat were adorable. Compared to the Toyota, the Ford feels like a child's plaything in that regard. So much so I burst out laughing.



It's an altogether sillier and less steely-eyed hot hatch, the Fiesta ST. It doesn't take itself so seriously. It finds far less grip and traction on a wet road surface and is slower point-to-point by a huge amount. But, my goodness, it's fun to drive. It has a joyous sense of flow, from the way it glides over corrugated roads, to the alertness of the steering and the perfectly measured turn-in response, and the way it pivots sharply into a bend with just the right amount of body roll. You begin unwinding the steering lock almost as soon as you've dialled it in, allowing that mobile rear axle to do the work for you.

And then, away from the apex, the front-end bites hard and drags you out crisply and cleanly. It was that very expressive way of rotating into a corner that made me laugh out loud for the second time. In terms of sheer driving fun at sensible road speeds, there arguably isn't another car at any money on sale today that matches the Fiesta ST. I really mean that. This Edition model is ultimately more rewarding, but even the base car is endlessly entertaining to drive.

So why would you spend all that extra money on the GR Yaris? Because you love the rallying connection, perhaps, or because you applaud the very fact it exists. Maybe because you'll use it on circuit, or because you're prepared to drive with so little restraint on the road that you really will feel the benefit of that driven rear axle. But the short answer is this: I wouldn't.


SPECIFICATION | TOYOTA GR YARIS

Engine: 1,618cc, turbocharged 3-cyl
Transmission: six-speed manual, all-wheel drive
Power (hp): 261@6,500rpm
Torque (lb ft): 266@3,000-4,600rpm
0-62mph: 5.5 seconds
Top speed: 143mph (electronically limited)
Kerbweight: 1,280-1,310kg (minimum and maximum)
MPG: 34.3
CO2: 186g/km driving
Price: from £29,995 (or £32,175 with the Convenience Pack and £33,495 with the Circuit Pack)

SPECIFICATION | FORD FIESTA ST EDITION

Engine: 1,497cc, turbocharged 3-cyl
Transmission: 6-speed manual, front-wheel drive
Power (hp): 200@6,000rpm
Torque (lb ft): 214@1,600-4,000rpm
0-62mph: 6.5sec
Top speed: 144mph
Weight: 1,255kg
MPG: 42.8 (WLTP)
CO2: 149g/km (WLTP)
Price: £27,075

Image credit | Harry Rudd










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Discussion

bcr5784

Original Poster:

7,122 posts

147 months

Monday 28th December 2020
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Radical stuff. I haven't actually driven an ST - but the ordinary Fiesta is (by some margin) my favourite hatch. I have driven a GR Yaris and, hugely welcome as it is to the market with lots to recommend it, I also didn't find it as much fun as I would have liked at sensible road speeds. I suspect (as an Alpine A110 owner) I am in sync with Dan that fun trumps outright ability in a road car.

BurtonLazars

579 posts

46 months

Monday 28th December 2020
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Call me crazy but I don’t think they’re competitors. I don’t think the person who wants a GR Yaris sees the ST as an alternative. It’s a different thing.

ZX10R NIN

27,742 posts

127 months

Monday 28th December 2020
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I agree with the above but it's still good to see a comparison.

323ti

128 posts

123 months

Monday 28th December 2020
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Thanks for the honest review.

I can totally imagine the iron-fisted control and endless grip the Yaris provides, what with the weight, size, AWD, it's array of LSD's and to top it all off, the incredibly grippy Michelin PS4S's.

And hence I totally believe that the Fiesta can be more fun and playful on normal roads, at normal speeds.

As an ex-Evo and Scooby owner, I would love to own the GR for it's engineering, the sheer capability of the car and the focus of it's developers, but I definitely wouldn't feel short-changed by owning the ST.

HazzaT

485 posts

47 months

Monday 28th December 2020
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BurtonLazars said:
Call me crazy but I don’t think they’re competitors. I don’t think the person who wants a GR Yaris sees the ST as an alternative. It’s a different thing.
I'm not sure, I think a lot of people are buying the GR to be a quick, engaging B-Roader that sticks a middle finger up to the larger hot hatches. The rally/motorsports stuff is obviously a draw but do most people dropping £30k+ on a car buy it purely due to that? I'd say the cross market between the ST and the Yaris is pretty big, if the Yaris existed in my budget when I got my ST I'd have definitely test driven it

Jon_S_Rally

3,452 posts

90 months

Monday 28th December 2020
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A timely video this. I drove the Yaris a couple of weeks ago and, having handed the keys back, I happened upon one of the orange Performance Edition Fiesta STs in a supermarket car park and I found myself wondering if it might actually be a more rewarding road car.

I would agree with Dan's conclusions overall. The Yaris is deeply impressive, particularly the engine, but like so many modern performance cars, its abilities are so far beyond what can really be enjoyed on the road, which could make it frustrating. It doesn't ever feel like the rear is pushing you out of bends (something the Focus RS was very good at), so it mostly just feels like a FWD with unending traction, which doesn't necessarily make for a very exciting road car. The synthesised engine sound was a bit disappointing for me too. I don't think it sounded very natural at all. It definitely needs some exhaust fiddling to bring the best out of it in that respect.

Sadly though, while I did like it overall, it was the seat that put me off. Unlike Dan, it was a huge problem for me. At 6'3, with the seat in its lowest position, my head was jammed against the roof the whole time, and I felt like I was staring at the sun visor, rather than out of the windscreen. The low roof also makes it feel really dark and claustrophobic inside too.

I know Lichfield are planning to try and drop the seat, so maybe that would improve it. I couldn't own one without some kind of fix for it, that's for sure.

martin12345

619 posts

91 months

Monday 28th December 2020
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I've had a Fiesta ST and it was brilliant. I want a GR Yaris because it's brilliant (I am told my many) in a different way
I live to change my car every couple of years and I like to experience different things when I change

If I just wanted the best Fiesta sized FWD hot hatch only then I would get a Fiesta ST every time
But I don't - I like variety - so a GR Yaris is on my list (of 1) for my next car
However, no matter how good it is I doubt I will keep it for more than 2 or 3 years as I will be after a change after that
(Assuming there are any interesting cars left to buy and they are not all electric/hybrid, in which case I will likely go back in time and get an RS4 or an E46 M3 or an E90 M3)

BurtonLazars

579 posts

46 months

Monday 28th December 2020
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HazzaT said:
I'd say the cross market between the ST and the Yaris is pretty big, if the Yaris existed in my budget when I got my ST I'd have definitely test driven it
I honestly think the GR Yaris ticks a box for some people that pits it in its own niche. I definitely agree with you in the sense that I can see potential ST owners trying a Yaris, it’s the other way around that I see as less of a thing.

kalniel

243 posts

122 months

Monday 28th December 2020
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BurtonLazars said:
Call me crazy but I don’t think they’re competitors. I don’t think the person who wants a GR Yaris sees the ST as an alternative. It’s a different thing.
Well I want a GR Yaris and I consider the ST as an alternative - as is a CTR. Hot hatches all, and I'd be happy with any of them, but since they're all a lot of money (as are most cars these days!) I want to get the best one for me that I can. If the CTR was a bit smaller and looked nicer it'd be my winner. If the GR Yaris was a bit bigger and had five doors it'd be my winner. If the ST rode a bit more softly it'd be my winner. But it doesn't, and they don't, so I'm left trying to pick my compromise..

Baldchap

7,754 posts

94 months

Monday 28th December 2020
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BurtonLazars said:
I honestly think the GR Yaris ticks a box for some people that pits it in its own niche. I definitely agree with you in the sense that I can see potential ST owners trying a Yaris, it’s the other way around that I see as less of a thing.
This certainly describes me. I haven't considered anything else.

akadk

1,501 posts

181 months

Monday 28th December 2020
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As said above, there are many many people who have ordered a GR who would not have bought ANY small hot hatch were it not for the GR (like me)

BurtonLazars

579 posts

46 months

Monday 28th December 2020
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kalniel said:
I'm left trying to pick my compromise..
It’s a nice position to be in smile let us know what you choose

pak

23 posts

146 months

Monday 28th December 2020
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Fiesta? Not on my nelly! GR is the only warm/hot/scalding motor on my radar up to £45k

Eazy71

161 posts

58 months

Monday 28th December 2020
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Interesting article but probably confirms what we all knew all along - these cars appeal to vastly different audiences. The ST is for those who are looking for a great compromise between performance and everyday driving at an affordable price. The Yaris is for those who want the most sporting drive available regardless of cost. Both undoubtedly nail their brief brilliantly.

CABC

5,618 posts

103 months

Monday 28th December 2020
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Eazy71 said:
The Yaris is for those who want the most sporting drive available regardless of cost. Both undoubtedly nail their brief brilliantly.
my take away from this review is that the fist is the more sporty and the yaris faster, with more advanced engineering.
grip doesn't mean fun and i'd say adjustability is more sporting.
this might be different at higher speeds on track.

navmangt

57 posts

120 months

Monday 28th December 2020
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Would putting slightly less grippy tyres lower the limits on the Yaris and make it more exciting at slower speeds? Kinda like the GT86 with the Prius tyres, but this time with punchy motor.

FlashBastd

291 posts

192 months

Monday 28th December 2020
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I was totally underwhelmed by the Yaris, tiny inside & boot compared to a Fiesta, & the rear view mirror is way too low compared to the height of the seat.
Granted the test drive I had wasn’t great, but in “normal”nurse it just felt like a typical hire car supermini, certainly not an event.
I don’t think all the press gushing has done the Yaris any good, certainly raised my expectations too high, so refreshing to read something with more balance.

HazzaT

485 posts

47 months

Monday 28th December 2020
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FlashBastd said:
I was totally underwhelmed by the Yaris, tiny inside & boot compared to a Fiesta, & the rear view mirror is way too low compared to the height of the seat.
Granted the test drive I had wasn’t great, but in “normal”nurse it just felt like a typical hire car supermini, certainly not an event.
I don’t think all the press gushing has done the Yaris any good, certainly raised my expectations too high, so refreshing to read something with more balance.
I guess a car with very high limits will feel quite mundane at low speed!
I really do love the Yaris as a concept and I'd love to give one a proper thrash but having seen the comparison, I think with a few handling mods (already got the Revo map on which transforms the feeling of the engine when going for it) like the Ford coilovers and a brake kit I think I've got a keeper in the little Fez for a very long time

EyeHeartSpellin

668 posts

85 months

Monday 28th December 2020
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I think a lot of road testers now belive that the average driver who still likes cars considers fun to be sliding the back of a car in every bend down a B road. Lots of us live in more urban environments where that extra traction in the wet and more straightline performance are actually more useful and therefore have there own pleasure. It's why in my opinion the Golf R is so massively popular. It's actually fun in the day to day real world.

British Beef

2,242 posts

167 months

Monday 28th December 2020
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HazzaT said:
BurtonLazars said:
Call me crazy but I don’t think they’re competitors. I don’t think the person who wants a GR Yaris sees the ST as an alternative. It’s a different thing.
I'm not sure, I think a lot of people are buying the GR to be a quick, engaging B-Roader that sticks a middle finger up to the larger hot hatches. The rally/motorsports stuff is obviously a draw but do most people dropping £30k+ on a car buy it purely due to that? I'd say the cross market between the ST and the Yaris is pretty big, if the Yaris existed in my budget when I got my ST I'd have definitely test driven it
If you are after hot hatch for approx £30k, they are competitors.

If you are after something special, fun, engineered for a purpose and not closely based on the most common hatch back for sale in UK, then they are not competitors.

I havent driven either, Ive not even seen a Yaris GR, but I have a deposit down on one. In fact I have never bought a new car in my life, but at heart I am an engineer more than a finely honed driver. Its the lengths Toyota have gone to, to make this car that makes it special, and is why I have put down a deposit. For me it is a modern day Escort Cosworth, more than a Fiesta ST.

The main criticism leveled at the car in this video was frankly BS, "more playfull drive wanted." that does not compute with something built ground up for going fast and being surefooted, on gravel, tarmac and ice stages.