When is a Clubsport Not a Clubsport

When is a Clubsport Not a Clubsport

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8-P

2,667 posts

227 months

Sunday 21st February
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Now that’s an unusual colour for any Porsche. Would love to see a photo.

vulture_venturer

552 posts

205 months

Sunday 21st February
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Waylander said:
Or you could save a bunch and buy a boring nobody wants coupe, stick some new suspension, big brakes and a turbo on it and have an even better car.....

Waylander

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24 posts

67 months

Sunday 21st February
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Who mentioned turbo, If that’s who I think it is!

Anyway big brakes and a proper turbo install will stick about another 15-20k on the price

Edited by Waylander on Sunday 21st February 22:47

Waylander

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24 posts

67 months

Sunday 21st February
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GTSjohn said:
Just to be contrarian, I had a "real" CS - M139 MNC (current owner is on here) which was Amethyst and I assume a PTS special order. It also had comfort seats and (iirc) a sunroof.............sold it to a mate for £13k in about 2003 with 57k on it as I'd bought a 996 and it wasn't getting used much. Top of my list of cars I should have kept!
I did say anything was possible if you had enough money, but the original sales blurb says those colours

You would be surprised how many say they wish they had kept their 968, but don’t buy another one


8-P

2,667 posts

227 months

Monday 22nd February
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Here it is - its amarath rather than amethyst

Seems there was a PH thread on it: https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?t=11...

Those buckets are aftermarket Recaros, I think that car is a Sport.


jakeb

235 posts

161 months

Monday 22nd February
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There are several on similar number plates. I believe this is EVO575s old car which was on the bay of e


8-P

2,667 posts

227 months

Monday 22nd February
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Yep there is a blue Sport on MNC too

8-P

2,667 posts

227 months

Monday 22nd February
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blade7

10,421 posts

183 months

Monday 22nd February
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Waylander said:
Well now we have decided that this is not a 944 thread,

Or you could save a bunch and buy a boring nobody wants coupe, stick some new suspension on it and still have a great car
There's a lot of 944 in a 968 though wink. I went to buy a 968 Coupe from a P'boro Indy nearly 15 years ago. Got there and he tried to jack the price up by a grand.

8-P

2,667 posts

227 months

Monday 22nd February
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blade7 said:
There's a lot of 944 in a 968 though wink. I went to buy a 968 Coupe from a P'boro Indy nearly 15 years ago. Got there and he tried to jack the price up by a grand.
Did you buy it?

Waylander

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24 posts

67 months

Monday 22nd February
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blade7 said:
There's a lot of 944 in a 968 though wink. I went to buy a 968 Coupe from a P'boro Indy nearly 15 years ago. Got there and he tried to jack the price up by a grand.
no one is denying that fact, this whole thread is about customers getting ripped off buying what was originally registered as a UK sport badged and stickered up as a Clubsport,

not the merits of 944 over 968 or how many parts were shared, or anything else, All FE cars are just great and there is just no need to get into all that,


blade7

10,421 posts

183 months

Monday 22nd February
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8-P said:
blade7 said:
There's a lot of 944 in a 968 though wink. I went to buy a 968 Coupe from a P'boro Indy nearly 15 years ago. Got there and he tried to jack the price up by a grand.
Did you buy it?
Fully intended to, but when I drove it, it wasn't any faster than the BMW E36 328 Coupe I arrived in. The chassis was probably better, but the engine wasn't. I bought a 944 turbo instead.

cslwtfatboy

15 posts

73 months

Tuesday 23rd February
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GTSjohn said:
Just to be contrarian, I had a "real" CS - M139 MNC (current owner is on here) which was Amethyst and I assume a PTS special order. It also had comfort seats and (iirc) a sunroof.............sold it to a mate for £13k in about 2003 with 57k on it as I'd bought a 996 and it wasn't getting used much. Top of my list of cars I should have kept!
I still own the above car and having done plenty of research its definately a clubsport.
Still only got 78k on it and Ive restored it and rebuilt the engine.
Love it .

cslwtfatboy

15 posts

73 months

Tuesday 23rd February
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8-P said:
Here it is - its amarath rather than amethyst

Seems there was a PH thread on it: https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?t=11...

Those buckets are aftermarket Recaros, I think that car is a Sport.

Thats my car . It is a clubsport . Not the one referred to in the post above as its mileage is nowhere near the one discussed and has a full dealer history .
That picture was from Porkers in the peaks last summer. My beetle in the background as well with Porsche engine
Great cars .

Biggles111

447 posts

230 months

Tuesday 23rd February
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Nice shiny red 968 CS here, and I'm pretty sure it's not a Sport ;-) . £38k. Low miles but LHD, written off, exported and later reimported. I'm sure it's a good car, and it may be that the claim was when these were not worth much. The market has definitely moved up though if someone can ask this.

https://www.pistonheads.com/buy/listing/11302937

jakeb

235 posts

161 months

Tuesday 23rd February
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I've seen the docs for the red lhd cs and its history is very scant.

It is a nice car but no Japan history whatsoever so very difficult to verify the starting odometer reading was correct. Also periods where it has moved and the odometer reading is still the same. I suspect it had a dodgy odometer as there is reference to it being fixed later. I have seen electrical issues with the odo motor which means it does a mile or so and then stops on other cars.

Also no documentation of the accident damage or the repair. Just a certificate certifying the chassis number is correct rather than a full inspection.

Just my 2p and anyone interested should make their own mind up. Personally I think it is too much for something with no history before 2008 and little afterwards and a cat c marker.

Biggles111

447 posts

230 months

Tuesday 23rd February
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jakeb said:
too much for something with no history before 2008 and little afterwards and a cat c marker.
Quite - I'm looking at selling my Sport shortly (high miles but no insurance marker), and it will be less than 40% of the price of that one. Strange market!

8-P

2,667 posts

227 months

Tuesday 23rd February
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cslwtfatboy said:
Thats my car . It is a clubsport . Not the one referred to in the post above as its mileage is nowhere near the one discussed and has a full dealer history .
That picture was from Porkers in the peaks last summer. My beetle in the background as well with Porsche engine
Great cars .
Guess it came with Sport seats if you/someone has fitted aftermarket buckets? Was it the 4star car? If not I guess there are 3 CS in that colour - I have to say its a great colour I love it.

cslwtfatboy

15 posts

73 months

Tuesday 23rd February
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8-P said:
Guess it came with Sport seats if you/someone has fitted aftermarket buckets? Was it the 4star car? If not I guess there are 3 CS in that colour - I have to say its a great colour I love it.
No mate it was a private sale. The previous owner fitted the cage and the seats to do track days. It had sports seats from the factory.
Very comprehensive history file so and lowish miles for the year. I have pretty much replaced everthing that was worn out or looking tatty and ended up fitting KW variant 3 coil overs to improve the ride.
Have personalised it a bit .

Edited by cslwtfatboy on Tuesday 23 February 18:20

jakeb

235 posts

161 months

Wednesday 24th February
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Historic worldwide auction pricing for people looking.

CS (although the one sold by CCA is "A Sport" and there are a few more in there (Red Historics)

https://www.glenmarch.com/cars/results?make=290&am...


Sport

https://www.glenmarch.com/cars/results?make=290&am...


The black 66k silverstone car was in the Porsche competition. It would amuse me if it was actually a Sport originally. I suspect it was a MY93 registered late though as it has windy windows.


Edited by jakeb on Wednesday 24th February 07:05