RE: Civic Type R vs Megane R.S Trophy | PH Video

RE: Civic Type R vs Megane R.S Trophy | PH Video

Sunday 1st September 2019

Civic Type R vs Megane R.S Trophy | PH Video

Dan P ponders what it means to be the best front-drive hot hatch in the world...



The FK8-generation Type R has been the best front-drive hot hatch since its introduction in 2017. It had no right to be. The FK2 wasdecent, but an also-ran. The FN2 before it was worse, and while the EP3 is (deservedly) very fondly remembered, it too was overshadowed by superior alternatives at the time. The FK8 though - the first Type R which could truly call itself a global car - was different. It did everything. Brilliantly.

And there it has remained, at the head of the class, being brilliant. But you don't hold the throne for long in hot hatchdom; there are pretenders everywhere. None is more potent than Renault Sport. The Megane R.S 265/275 seems remarkably distant in 2019, but prior to 2017 the third generation model was all but unassailable. We still talk about the steering as a benchmark now. And the chassis. And the erstwhile Trophy's uncanny ability for making a grey day memorable.

Now, of course, there is a new Trophy; one with 300hp and all-wheel steering and no little sophistication. Renault Sport's ambitions for it are plain, and exemplified by the Nurburgring record it wrestled back from Honda using the stripped-out and absurdly pricey R variant. We're less interested though in western Germany than we are in rural Great Britain. Does the Megane Trophy have what it takes to move the benchmark beyond the FK8? Or is round two of this match-up simply confirmation of Honda's unlikely home run? Dan P has the casting vote. Roll camera.


 

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Chestrockwell

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2,629 posts

158 months

Saturday 31st August 2019
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Had my Civic since June, I’ve covered nearly 5k miles since (yes, 5k miles, a lot of drives for the sake of it) here are the biggest drawbacks.

- Infotainment is diabolical
- Sound system is also diabolical
- Autowipers are useless
- Needs to be more configurable re damping & steering

I was picking a few friends up in my Type R earlier on from this town in the middle of nowhere and I had a good 7 miles worth of pitch black bumpy bendy roads with NSL signs and no cars anywhere, near a village called Abinger Hammer in Surrey and it was a very good drive ruined by 1 thing.

The ride in sport and R+ was absolutely shocking and nigh on unbeatable but comfort mode absorbed nearly all of those bumps on the road and made the drive a lot more fun, however I just couldn’t get on with the steering being in comfort mode and it really let the experience down. I barely drive in comfort as I can never tell the difference in day to day driving so I wasn’t used to how light the steering is. It felt nearly as bad as a modern BMW’s steering. I wish it had a configurable individual mode!

Brilliant car and I don’t doubt the Megane either, probably a very good car but let down by the fact that it wasn’t complete from the first day it rolled out of the factory.


Chestrockwell

Original Poster:

2,629 posts

158 months

Monday 2nd September 2019
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Montybaber said:
I understamd that the FK8 divides opinion on looks but on the right road in R mode the thing is just incredible

Still winning group tests after all this time is a massive achievement, they pulled off something special with this car, such a brilliant all rounder

I commuted all week in mine (75mile round trip) in comfort mode averaging an indicated 38mpg and it was a joy, today heading home I took the long route and hit some nice roads in R and had a lot of fun

It changes so much through the 3 modes
A truly stunning car and I love the fact that whatever new hot hatch is out, it’s instantly pitted against the Civic, which is nearly 3 years old and hasn’t been updated.

The looks situation is subjective and the majority of PH don’t like its looks but on a daily basis, to the general public, I receive nothing but compliments. What colours yours?