RE: Renault Sport Megane 300 Trophy | PH Fleet

RE: Renault Sport Megane 300 Trophy | PH Fleet

Saturday 13th July 2019

Renault Sport Megane 300 Trophy | PH Fleet

Is the new Megane a true Trophy? Is it a great hot hatch? Is it possible to like those wheels? We've six months to find out...



It wouldn't be unreasonable to suggest the Renault Sport Megane IV has had a pretty tough time of it from launch. Stuck between a rock and a hard place would sell its task short, those two seemingly then sandwiched by an immovable object and an unstoppable force. Not only did it have to match the driver appeal and cult status of the last Renault Sport Megane, adored by enthusiasts the world over, it was aiming to create a more usable, rounded, mature RS experience. And that meant taking on the VW Golf R, probably the most complete everyday fast car available at the money - it just doesn't have weak link.

As yet, it doesn't feel to have quite hit the sweet spot. The Cup is great on circuit, if not quite as great as it was, and the Sport chassis is really lovely on the road, but the jury's still out on whether it represents as multi-talented a package as the Golf. We're yet to try the dual-clutch transmission in the UK as well; you might sneer, but don't forget it's a very similar powertrain to that which works so nicely in the Alpine A110. Let's see.

What was needed, to really establish the Megane's credentials, was a prolonged period of time beyond the usual few days of a road test. And that's exactly what we have, HS19 KUB our Trophy to use until the end of the year.


It was called into action almost immediately, taking on the Honda Civic Type R in our recent twin test; while it was denied victory then, that verdict comes from only a couple of hours driving. What will be interesting to compare is the impression it leaves after a few weeks and months. While I loved using the Civic's FK2 predecessor as an everyday car, the goading and attention was wearisome at times - probably not what you want when spending more than £30k on a hatch, and something I'm hoping the Megane, without much in the way of aero addenda, can avoid to some extent.

The PH Trophy is well over £30k as well, as may have noted in the twin test. We had no decision in the final spec (all of the long-termers given to mags are yellow), and the chosen options mean a £32k car is a £36,000 one as tested. It'll be interesting to see what seems worthwhile; Liquid Yellow looks utterly superb, so would most likely stay, though I reckon that a Visio system (with lane departure warning, traffic sign recognition and auto high beam) could probably be done without. Even adding just the paint, the Recaro seats and Bose pack (with bigger infotainment screen as well as the audio upgrade) means another £3.5k on the price, which is worth bearing in mind when rivals like the Civic and i30 N have very few extras offered.

Beyond the twin test, I've not used the Megane much just yet, though it did serve as perfect transport for a trip to Renault F1 at Enstone last week. It's an incredible facility, one with decades of history, having been Toleman's base in 1984 when Senna took that sensational Monaco podium, the Benetton HQ when Flavio Briatore signed Schumacher in 1991 and, of course, home to Renault F1 for Alonso's back-to-back titles. Being built in an old quarry gives it the feel of a secret tech bunker, too, sprawling subterranean outposts hosting all manner of amazing engineering work.


Now look, I'm obviously not going to claim that a Megane is like an F1 car. Not even close. But there are links (beyond just the yellow), the F1 team slowly but surely improving season after season - through analysing, testing and improving what they have - in a similar fashion to the modern Renault Sport road cars. Since the reintroduction of the Renault Sport F1 car, the team have finished ninth (2016), sixth (2017) and fourth (2018) in the constructors' championship. It means there's progress from experience, as there has been for the cars: remember how the Megane II went from underwhelming 225 to inspiring F1 Team R26 in a few short years?

Which all bodes quite well for the 300 Trophy, the car already feeling more alive and urgent than a regular 280 Cup. The question is, however, whether that's a sensible path to pursue, given the market's apparent fondness for more accommodating, less aggressive hot hatches. Jack has already been camping with the Meg and noticed the... intensity of the ride, this Trophy's track credentials perhaps not best advertised in rural Essex.

Still, something to address in the next couple of months. First it has to be my holiday transport, taking in the country and seaside just at school holiday time - joy. It'll be easy to find in a car park of crossovers, at least...


FACT SHEET
Car:
2019 Renault Sport Megane 300 Trophy
Run by: Matt
On fleet since: June 2019
Mileage: 1,089
List price new: £31,835 (price as standard; as tested £36,085 comprised of Liquid Yellow paint for £1,300, Bose Pack (Bose sound system with seven speakers, digital amp and sub, plus 8.7-inch touchscreen with R-Link 2), for £800, Front parking sensors and rear parking camera for £400, Visio system (Lane departure warning, traffic sign recognition and auto high beam) for £250 and Recaro Sports Pack (Renault Sport Recaro seats with red stitching and Alcantara) for £1,500)
Last month at a glance: Another Trophy triumph? Time to find out





[Renault F1 pics: Luca Mazzocco, others Dafydd Wood/Jack Mansfield]

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Discussion

redroadster

Original Poster:

1,749 posts

233 months

Saturday 13th July 2019
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I'd buy it over honda on looks that last second around a lap I'd live with .

Nerdherder

1,773 posts

98 months

Saturday 13th July 2019
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Write up YOUR experiences with the car please in the fleet articles instead of repeating generic info and normal car review notes.

How was the camping trip and how did the car (and the dog) behave on it for instance?

heisthegaffer

3,423 posts

199 months

Saturday 13th July 2019
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I saw an orange one during the week, looked cracking. I've said this before and I'll say it again, to me it has hints of an Integrale about it.

Butter Face

30,353 posts

161 months

Saturday 13th July 2019
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heisthegaffer said:
I saw an orange one during the week, looked cracking. I've said this before and I'll say it again, to me it has hints of an Integrale about it.
Our demo is Orange, it's superb. I finally put some miles on it this week, proper grin inducing car, its ace.

Mike1990

964 posts

132 months

Saturday 13th July 2019
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I’d buy one on looks alone.

HTP99

22,602 posts

141 months

Saturday 13th July 2019
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Mike1990 said:
I’d buy one on looks alone.
They look far better in the flesh, our Flame Red demo Trophy arrived last week and this is the first time I've seen one properly and had proper poke about, some of the details are fantastic and Renault have done a brilliant job in distinguishing it from the run of the mill Megane, making it look muscular and sporty without going OTT like the Civic.

Speed_Demon

2,662 posts

189 months

Saturday 13th July 2019
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Absolutely adore the look of the Megane. Especially in yellow or orange.

Ultimately though as a huge Renault Sport fan boy, I'm disappointed it hasn't retained the title of best driver's hatch as that's the quality I loved it lost for.

No doubt the Trophy R will be absolutely another level in terms of driver feedback but I cant take the family out in that.

There will be other versions of the Megane filling the gap between the trophy and the R I'm sure, but by the looks of it they'll struggle to compete on price with those.

HM-2

12,467 posts

170 months

Saturday 13th July 2019
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heisthegaffer said:
I saw an orange one during the week, looked cracking. I've said this before and I'll say it again, to me it has hints of an Integrale about it.
It's so very nearly there, as far as cars of its ilk go...but those front fogs are awful.

Poopipe

619 posts

145 months

Saturday 13th July 2019
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I just got an orange one in the same spec so it'll be interesting to see how experiences compare (and no, it's not possible to like those wheels)

macky17

2,212 posts

190 months

Saturday 13th July 2019
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“Jack has already been camping with the Meg and noticed the... intensity of the ride...”

I don’t get it. Perhaps I’m too old for this st now but surely a hot hatch should be effortless to drive daily? What’s the point of an intense ride on this sort of car? A weekend toy is a different matter but, for me, a fwd hatchback is not a weekend toy (and if it were you’d buy an old trophy R or R26R or VW Clubsport S).

The Golf R is not perfect - the steering isn’t the best and there’s too much body roll necessitating a rear arb (I’ve run one for over a year now) but at least you don’t need a chiropractor.

Renault does look good though.

Turbojuice

601 posts

90 months

Saturday 13th July 2019
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Nerdherder said:
Write up YOUR experiences with the car please in the fleet articles instead of repeating generic info and normal car review notes.

How was the camping trip and how did the car (and the dog) behave on it for instance?
Agree totally. Please take any of the generic typical journo comments about the car out of your mind and form your own, real world conclusions.

The whole "the 280 doesn't drive like the old car" and "the 300 trophy drives amazingly but is too stiff" rhetoric is getting boring.

Kenny Powers

2,618 posts

128 months

Saturday 13th July 2019
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I really like this latest RS Megane. I think it’s possibly the best looking affordable & attainable car on the market today. I haven’t driven one but I’m sure they’re great. As always though with any new Renaultsport, if you want the very best version then you’re going to have to wait until they pretty much stop building them,

Save the manuals

55 posts

95 months

Saturday 13th July 2019
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Will be interesting so see what it’s like to live with. Easier but ultimately less thrilling than the predecessor (sounds rather familiar regardless of what car is being discussed, right?) is my bet after a quick blast in the new Trophy the other day. Surprised that so many have complained about it being too stiff - it’s a lot more comfortable than the old cup chassis-equipped car.

iceicebaby1980

101 posts

99 months

Saturday 13th July 2019
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36k wow how much are these on lease hire . Looked into getting a golf r when they were 199 a month and 2k down . What are these worth after 3 year and average miles less than 20k ?

Addymk2

334 posts

173 months

Sunday 14th July 2019
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Nerdherder said:
Write up YOUR experiences with the car please in the fleet articles instead of repeating generic info and normal car review notes.

How was the camping trip and how did the car (and the dog) behave on it for instance?
Thirded. I have a feeling I can sum up the article in 6 months in 2 lines;

It may not have drove as well as the Civic and the wheels initially polarized opinions, but in the course of our ownership, the Megane never put a foot wrong. The seats were comfortable over a long drive, the stereo was great and it even averaged 34mpg! (Although it dropped to 9 on track) We will miss it.

nickfrog

21,210 posts

218 months

Sunday 14th July 2019
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Save the manuals said:
Will be interesting so see what it’s like to live with. Easier but ultimately less thrilling than the predecessor (sounds rather familiar regardless of what car is being discussed, right?) is my bet after a quick blast in the new Trophy the other day. Surprised that so many have complained about it being too stiff - it’s a lot more comfortable than the old cup chassis-equipped car.
I found the predecessor only interesting beyond 7/10ths, in other words on track. I have a feeling this will be exactly the same but with perhaps slightly more refined road manners, comfort and NVH for the commute as you have found out, which is basically why I ordered one. Time will tell, Snet mid-November will be the first real test, I can't wait.

nickfrog

21,210 posts

218 months

Sunday 14th July 2019
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iceicebaby1980 said:
36k wow
You can get one for £26k new after discount if you don't mind less farts and 20hp less. And that's with the correct wheel size for the track as standard. A 280 Cup with no fast depreciating gadgets fitted. It's even the same base colour as the Trophy R at a no extra cost, bargain.

Jon_S_Rally

3,424 posts

89 months

Monday 15th July 2019
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iceicebaby1980 said:
36k wow how much are these on lease hire . Looked into getting a golf r when they were 199 a month and 2k down . What are these worth after 3 year and average miles less than 20k ?
Not sure we'll keep seeing deals like that though. It seems harder to find lease bargains than it was. Those Golf R deals have hurt the residuals a bit too. The 6R held its value really well. The 7R seems to have lost money quicker, so I have to wonder how much profit was actually made.

Addymk2 said:
Thirded. I have a feeling I can sum up the article in 6 months in 2 lines;

It may not have drove as well as the Civic and the wheels initially polarized opinions, but in the course of our ownership, the Megane never put a foot wrong. The seats were comfortable over a long drive, the stereo was great and it even averaged 34mpg! (Although it dropped to 9 on track) We will miss it.
If they say anything different, they might not get another one in the future! Cynical? Maybe, but car companies are looking to save costs. I know people in the business who have lost access to test drives due to budget cuts. If you're too critical, it must drop you down the Christmas card list.

nickfrog said:
I found the predecessor only interesting beyond 7/10ths, in other words on track. I have a feeling this will be exactly the same but with perhaps slightly more refined road manners, comfort and NVH for the commute as you have found out, which is basically why I ordered one. Time will tell, Snet mid-November will be the first real test, I can't wait.
I think that's a bit of an issue with a lot of modern cars really. They're now so capable (even in boggo 1.6 diesel spec) that you really have to give them death to get near the limit, which is a pretty dangerous past time. What I liked about the MK3 Megane is that, with the fancy Recaro seats and the little details (Brembo brakes, diff, R.S. Monitor etc), it felt like quite a special car compared to the likes of the Golf.

nickfrog

21,210 posts

218 months

Monday 15th July 2019
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Jon_S_Rally said:
What I liked about the MK3 Megane is that, with the fancy Recaro seats and the little details (Brembo brakes, diff, R.S. Monitor etc), it felt like quite a special car compared to the likes of the Golf.
Indeed Jon and now the standard seats are good enough to save the cost of the Recaro upgrade. They've also kept all the Cup bits indeed and added hydraulic hump stops + 4 wheel steer while also retaining the Perfohub and wider tracks. It's great to see a manufacturer focus on chassis as it would be easier to invest in other more visible and more marketable areas.

Martyn76

634 posts

118 months

Monday 15th July 2019
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Is there an option to downsize the wheels?