RE: Nissan Skyline GT-R (R34) | Spotted

RE: Nissan Skyline GT-R (R34) | Spotted

Thursday 3rd October 2019

Nissan Skyline GT-R (R34) | Spotted

The R34 is 20 years old this year; this very one is £120,000



Is there any more to be said about the R34 generation of Nissan Skyline GT-R? For two decades now, from those first reviews at the end of the last century to video game infamy, Hollywood A-lister to darling of the tuning industry, the attention and plaudits have been near enough constant; it feels like the book of Skyline evangelising has been completed.

Not quite. With the R34 20 years old this year, the GT-R badge itself celebrating half a century (with Bayside Blue back) and R35s celebrating a decade of official UK cars, there's focus on the Skyline perhaps like never before. Furthermore, with even the newest Skylines now 17 years old, they can start to be considered as classic cars; the days of 1,000hp builds, track weapons and crazy custom paint are probably behind us, as originality is prized and values soar.


That R34s are worth more than they were is no longer news; what is, however, certainly for us, is that non Z-Tune cars - the ultimate of ultimates, which you can read about here - can now command more than six figures. Yep, this is a £120k Skyline GT-R.

Of course, it's not just any old R34, if such a thing exists. This car is a V-Spec Nur II, one of the last R34s made in 2002. Over a standard car, the Nur - you can probably guess that bit - received block and internals from the N1 race car, a gold chassis plaque and, er, a different colour speedo. But it was offered in Millennium Jade, which has become legendary in Skyline circles, and which this car is painted in - apparently just 155 other cars are similarly configured.

While standard cars are now probably the most covetable, that this Nur is modified shows just how deep-seated the tuning culture was; even owners of the very last ones couldn't resist a bit of tinkering to make the Skyline that bit better. So it has an intercooler, blow-off valve and turbos from HKS, NISMO injectors and Apexi intake filters. Note as well the Volk TE37s, arguably the wheel of choice for any Japanese performance car, the NISMO bumper and skirts plus the lowered stance courtesy of HKS coilovers.


The spec presents something of a problem. Because with these changes, this Nur is probably a great Skyline, even more engaging and exciting than a standard one. But then this is also a 41,000-mile car for sale at £120,000, figures that would surely play on your mind every time you played at Gran Turismo for real. It still has its original service book and owner's manual, and the ad describing it as "absolutely gorgeous". It's got to be about as good as a GT-R gets.

Suggesting alternatives seems a moot point, really, because either a buyer wants the very best R34, or has plans for it to reside in a collection. Perhaps the more interesting discussion point is whether they can rise any further, given the classic market is far from flourishing at the moment. Perhaps it can, as a new GT-R must be along in time and the US can finally get R34s imported in a few years, or perhaps not. Either way, nothing will get in the way of the Skyline's hallowed status as an automotive icon, as much for what it came to represent as how it actually drove. Whoever gets to it next, and whatever they do with it, will be in for something spectacular.


SPECIFICATION - NISSAN SKYLINE GT-R (R34) V-SPEC NUR
Engine:
2,568cc, twin-turbo straight-six
Transmission: Six-speed manual, four-wheel drive
Power (hp): 280@6,800rpm
Torque (lb ft): 289@5,400rpm
MPG: N/A
CO2: N/A
First registered: 2002
Recorded mileage: 41,000
Price then: £54,000
Price now: £120,000

(All stats for standard R34 GT-R)

See the original advert here

Search for a Nissan GT-R Skyline R34 here

Author
Discussion

Nerdherder

Original Poster:

1,773 posts

97 months

Thursday 3rd October 2019
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120k wuuuuut

cib24

1,117 posts

153 months

Thursday 3rd October 2019
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As cool as the car is, these are now priced like the NSX, commanding a premium far too high to be considered good value as a driver's car, compared to what else you can buy for £120k or less (whether Japanese, exotic or something else). Good investment possibly once the US market opens up but perhaps they are topping out now in value generally, except for the really rare examples.

Also, many would argue in the Japanese scene that these aren't the best driver's cars of the era (overall handling, feel and driver involvement). That honour according to many belongs to the NSX and RX-7, but it's true in a straight line you can make the Skyline a missile like a Supra.

I like the car a lot but after driving a few of the 90s era Japanese icons I couldn't justify the high premium these demand over a RX-7 (in my view the best and most pure driver's car from Japan in the 90s) or even a well sorted Evo.

soad

32,896 posts

176 months

Thursday 3rd October 2019
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Nerdherder said:
120k wuuuuut
And only 280bhp...looks quite menacing though.

TypeRTim

724 posts

94 months

Thursday 3rd October 2019
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soad said:
And only 280bhp...looks quite menacing though.
280 will just be the rounded up figure from the 'Gentlemans' agreement' of 276bhp or 205kw that was in place at the time.

With new injectors, turbos, air filters, intercooler etc. That will in reality be way closer to 300/350 without breaking a sweat.

chelme

1,353 posts

170 months

Thursday 3rd October 2019
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In case they forgot, the classic car market is in a state of flux, so 120k may be taking the proverbial at this time....

Mr E

21,616 posts

259 months

Thursday 3rd October 2019
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soad said:
And only 280bhp...looks quite menacing though.
They’ll be big, strong horses.
And it’s pretty simple to add quite a few more.

I suspect this is 120k simple because it’s not been fettled much.

whytheory

750 posts

146 months

Thursday 3rd October 2019
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Pretty much dream spec for me. If you want one like this and have the cash, when is the next one going to come along?

InitialDave

11,902 posts

119 months

Thursday 3rd October 2019
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TypeRTim said:
280 will just be the rounded up figure from the 'Gentlemans' agreement' of 276bhp or 205kw that was in place at the time.

With new injectors, turbos, air filters, intercooler etc. That will in reality be way closer to 300/350 without breaking a sweat.
They're pretty much that out the box anyway, the "276/280bhp" on these is blatant lies. Probably more like 320bhp as standard.

They're fun cars, but I'm not sure they're worth anything like this kind of money.

TommoAE86

2,667 posts

127 months

Thursday 3rd October 2019
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About right for V-spec Nur II imo, they were touching £100k a couple of years ago. If it was just a standard R34 GTR then way over priced...

richinlondon

594 posts

122 months

Thursday 3rd October 2019
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if it were delivery mileage then possibly for the price but....

Augustus Windsock

3,369 posts

155 months

Thursday 3rd October 2019
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cib24 said:
As cool as the car is, these are now priced like the NSX, commanding a premium far too high to be considered good value as a driver's car, compared to what else you can buy for £120k or less (whether Japanese, exotic or something else). Good investment possibly once the US market opens up but perhaps they are topping out now in value generally, except for the really rare examples.

Also, many would argue in the Japanese scene that these aren't the best driver's cars of the era (overall handling, feel and driver involvement). That honour according to many belongs to the NSX and RX-7, but it's true in a straight line you can make the Skyline a missile like a Supra.

I like the car a lot but after driving a few of the 90s era Japanese icons I couldn't justify the high premium these demand over a RX-7 (in my view the best and most pure driver's car from Japan in the 90s) or even a well sorted Evo.
Interesting comment about the NSX
In one of last months classic car mags an expert suggested that the prices being asked for NSXs by dealers was ‘what they thought it should be’ but advised that most of those that do sell were placed a good piece below that price. Evinced I’m sure by recent results at classic car auctions
Personally I don’t see this car as ‘value’ at the advertised price, I’d rather have a mint low mileage R32 GTR V-Spec for a lot less and buy a low miles NSX with the change (there I was first to do the ‘what else can you buy for that money’ thing!)

Torquey

1,895 posts

228 months

Thursday 3rd October 2019
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I remember searching classifieds and dreaming of owning one of these around 10-15 years ago. £35,000 IIRC.

RazerSauber

2,280 posts

60 months

Thursday 3rd October 2019
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I respect this car hugely, as I do with all Skylines, but I just don't "want" one. Not even 2F2F could lure me in on one.

Still, lovely looking thing! Great colour. I'd leave it totally standard if it was me but it's not my car. I hope someone gets a lot of joy out of it.

ghost83

5,478 posts

190 months

Thursday 3rd October 2019
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Nice but not 120k nice

rossub

4,444 posts

190 months

Thursday 3rd October 2019
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Just looked at the website.... estimated bhp is 500.

Didn’t think it would be 280 with a couple of hks turbos hehe

RevOne

49 posts

152 months

Thursday 3rd October 2019
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Would much prefer a truly special limited run car and then have £20k left over for burritos

https://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/...

Andy83n

384 posts

62 months

Thursday 3rd October 2019
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£120k for a nigh on 20 yr old datsun that's possibly as quick as a new Golf R ?

nah

Motormatt

484 posts

218 months

Thursday 3rd October 2019
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I think the price is a little toppy but these have been underappreciated for a long time. No one would question paying £120k for a 996 GT2 of a similar age and mileage. The GTR is easily as special in terms of engineering.

Having said that, I'd probably still take the Porsche though, I could never quite gel with the way the R34 looks, still prefer the R33.

www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/porsche/...

cerb4.5lee

30,614 posts

180 months

Thursday 3rd October 2019
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I've always wanted one of these. cloud9

£120k gets you into other serious metal though...so I think you've really got to want one.

Cable

239 posts

183 months

Thursday 3rd October 2019
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None of the R32/R33/R34 GTRs were 276bhp, in reality. More like 320bhp out of the box. With minimum modifications such exhaust and remap would happily see over 400bhp.

This with an N1 engine, HKS turbos/injectors/ECU would be 500-600bhp car. Not that horsepower is everything, but it is also an extremely characterful engine, one of the all time greats...