RE: Porsche Cayman R | Spotted

RE: Porsche Cayman R | Spotted

Sunday 6th October 2019

Porsche Cayman R | Spotted

There was a racy Cayman before the GT4, remember, and quite the car it was...



What with the frothy excitement around not just one, but now two generations of Porsche Cayman GT4, there's been comparatively little mention the car the indirectly preceded it. When was the last time a Cayman R came up in a car conversation?

Exactly. For a lightweight, mid-engined, naturally-aspirated Porsche - with, heavens above, hydraulic steering as well - there's arguably not as much reverie around the R as you much expect. Of course, the Motorsport-built GT4 will have taken some sheen of it, but there are other factors to consider that might explain why it's a little under the radar. First was the outrage from aficionados of arse-engined Porsche about the 'R' moniker; before 2011 it had only been seen on the 800kg 911 of 1967, which is about as exalted as classic Porsches get. To use the name on a mere Cayman was deemed not quite cricket.


There's also the fact that the Boxster Spyder, launched at the same time, was the rather more glamorous and exotic option of the two, complete with its fancy (and fiddly) roof. Don't forget that both Spyder and R only enjoyed minimal power gains over regular 3.4 Boxsters and Caymans, so arguably the former might have been perceived as more special against the standard cars with its supercar silhouette.

Still, the fact that the name upset a few beards, and that it didn't look all that different from a Cayman S, doesn't detract from the R being a superlative sports car. Adding 10hp to and removing 55kg from a Cayman wasn't much, sure, but the 987 was so good already that it just made the very best that bit better. A little sharper, a little more eager, even sweeter than everything else out there.

The reviews reflected as much, the PH verdict suggesting that, over an S, the R "asks for little in the way of compromise but rewards that bit more, goes that bit harder and includes plenty of desirable kit." It was, who'd have thought, another great Porsche sports car. You'll remember, surely, the Cayman R v 1M Coupe tests back in 2011, the Porsche's finely-honed dynamics battling the BMW's swaggering, muscle car attitude in perfectly matched duels.


Funnily enough, it's a valid comparison to this day, both having clung to their value like a desperate mountaineer to the cliff face, refusing to fall. They were £40kish new, and £40k eight years later. This particular Cayman R stood out with its brilliant specification: manual, carbon seats, sports exhaust. Don't really need much else, do you? It's £42,495, an incredible show of residual strength, and validating all those who stumped up the cash for what seemed like not very much extra, really, back at the early part of the decade.

Given what's happened since this car's introduction, and where the future of fast cars is going, it's hard to imagine the R losing any desirability to those in the know. Light, mid-engined, rear-drive sports cars have been popular for a very long time, and that isn't going to change any time soon. Sure, you could have a very nice 911 for the same sort of money, but even a 997 doesn't look like as safe a spot for your cash. Or, it could be well argued, quite so desirable to those after a great sports car. Question remains, though: might the 1 M Coupe be even better still?


SPECIFICATION - PORSCHE CAYMAN R
Engine:
3,436cc, flat-six
Transmission: Six-speed manual, rear-wheel drive, LSD
Power (hp): 330@7,400rpm
Torque (lb ft): 273@4,750rpm
MPG: 29
CO2: 228
First registered: 2011
Recorded mileage: 31,000
Price then: £51,728
Price now: £42,495

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frayz

Original Poster:

2,629 posts

160 months

Sunday 6th October 2019
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(Suitably bias "manual" R owner here)

I love the fact the R is so often overlooked, as it has meant that prices for them have remained sensible for us mere mortals without an abundance of cash or Instagram followers.

Quite possibly one of the finest driving sports cars out there at any price. It's a genuinely special place to be, with just the right amount of power to be enjoyed on the roads with feedback and balance by the bucket load. I absolutely adore mine, and struggle to think of anything this side of a GT3 that i could even consider replacing it with.

Even better in green biggrin



Edited by frayz on Sunday 6th October 09:20

Joehow

599 posts

116 months

Sunday 6th October 2019
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Beautiful car! And to quote my man Frayz there is nothing this side of a GT3 id swap one for!

celticstevie

327 posts

252 months

Sunday 6th October 2019
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I ran one for 2 years, amazing car. Sold to buy a Ferrari.

I might buy one again for a long termer. They need the bucket seats

Budflicker

3,799 posts

185 months

Sunday 6th October 2019
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Another bias view here but they really are a great sports car.

I covered 2500 miles on a euro tour this summer with some much more exotic stuff and the little R more than held its own, both in pace and in the looks department.





Joehow

599 posts

116 months

Sunday 6th October 2019
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As a mountain passes car they are just about perfect.



Edited by Joehow on Sunday 6th October 11:09

Brian Fallon

40 posts

72 months

Sunday 6th October 2019
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I know someone who worked for a Porsche dealership for years and he drove various Porsche models back to their owners as part of his job. I asked him which model he most enjoyed driving and without any hesitation he said it was the Cayman R. Having had a Gen 2 Cayman S myself, I thought that was the best pure driving car I ever owned, so it's no surprise that the R is so highly rated by those who know it.

james S

1,615 posts

246 months

Sunday 6th October 2019
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I've had mine four years - nearly twice as long as any other of my 'weekend' cars Never tire of it, don't know why, they just feel right. I've had GT2, GT3s 968CS and any others, but there is something about this one which has kept me interested for longer. I'm not sure I can say its 'better' than those great car's but it just feels right whenever i get in it.

The differences on paper Vs a standard car don't perhaps describe just how special these cars are and that may just be the magic

bigmowley

1,897 posts

177 months

Sunday 6th October 2019
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Another biased owner here. thumbup
Superb little car, perfect size, very well engineered. With a few very simple tweeks and a set of Cup 2 tyres they are a class act on track as well as a great road car. A hidden gem.

SlimJim16v

5,688 posts

144 months

Sunday 6th October 2019
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Lovely, what a Porsche used to be, before they became big fat missiles.

Titan2

150 posts

97 months

Sunday 6th October 2019
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I would love to try one of these some day but unfortunately there are very few over this side of the Irish sea.

I've only ever seen one on the road and it was the same colour as your green one Frayz.
Just wondering if your also on the Cliotrophy forum Frayz?Your name looks familiar.

Does the R have the potential engine problems like some of the other Cayman S cars?

Rojo

40 posts

71 months

Sunday 6th October 2019
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Lol you lot, get a room.

Jeronh

86 posts

123 months

Sunday 6th October 2019
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Titan2 said:
I would love to try one of these some day but unfortunately there are very few over this side of the Irish sea.

I've only ever seen one on the road and it was the same colour as your green one Frayz.
Just wondering if your also on the Cliotrophy forum Frayz?Your name looks familiar.

Does the R have the potential engine problems like some of the other Cayman S cars?
Nope, they use the same engine as the 981 S. Zero issues, like all 987.2 models.

chrisABP

1,112 posts

149 months

Sunday 6th October 2019
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This car is my old Cayman R and is an absolutely epic car with all the spec you would desire. Also owned a 1M coupe and the R is the better car.

frayz

Original Poster:

2,629 posts

160 months

Sunday 6th October 2019
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Titan2 said:
I would love to try one of these some day but unfortunately there are very few over this side of the Irish sea.

I've only ever seen one on the road and it was the same colour as your green one Frayz.
Just wondering if your also on the Cliotrophy forum Frayz?Your name looks familiar.

Does the R have the potential engine problems like some of the other Cayman S cars?
Yep that’s me. smile

FTW

532 posts

177 months

Monday 7th October 2019
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Best car I've ever owned! A superb little package.


smithyithy

7,259 posts

119 months

Monday 7th October 2019
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Love these, pretty rare cars it seems.

The green is marmite for some but I love it, very special.

greenarrow

3,609 posts

118 months

Monday 7th October 2019
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Long time fan - this car is right up there on my wish list. In green please.

Surprised its overlooked, it won plenty of "best handling car/drivers car" type comparisons in all the mags when it arrived in 2011. Possibly the prettiest Cayman ever?

Pan Pan Pan

9,948 posts

112 months

Monday 7th October 2019
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The Boxster Cayman format was always likely to prove to be a good car, because unlike the rear engine 911 format, it started as a clean sheet design, which did not have to follow the rear engine VW beetle format inherited into the 356.
The fact that over time, the designers, and engineers at Porsche made such a good job of getting the rear engine car to drive, and handle as well as they did, meant that the mid engine car was always going to be a winner.
The problem for Porsche is that they had to, and probably still want to try to keep some clear blue water between the Boxster Cayman range, and their flagship 911 range, but as more people start discovering just how well rounded the mid engine car is, the more `some' may go for the Boxster Cayman option, rather than just going for the 911 range because it is the 911.
The lucky ones of course are those who can have either, as they probably wont be disappointed.
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thelostboy

4,574 posts

226 months

Monday 7th October 2019
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I like the ethos, but just can't get over the looks. It looks anaemic to my eyes, and still shares too much of the original Boxster's push me, pull you styling - it even has the pram handle.

It doesn't help that I think the 981 is an exceptionally good looking car in comparison.

WCZ

10,544 posts

195 months

Monday 7th October 2019
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great cars but are they worth £30,000 over an S for 10hp and -20kg ? wouldn't take much money to achieve the same from a modified s?