Β£85k Audi R8 RWS | Spotted

Β£85k Audi R8 RWS | Spotted

Monday 13th January

£85k Audi R8 RWS | Spotted

You could spend £85k on a lightly used Cayman GT4. Or you could buy a 200mph, 8,500rpm supercar...



Think of the template for a successful, coveted, limited-run supercar, and the Audi R8 pretty much traced it to the millimetre: high-revving, naturally-aspirated engine, 200mph potential, less weight than standard, a three-figure production run - or about half that of a 911 Speedster - and a reasonable price of Β£112,000. The fact that those 999 cars made were for the entire world, and that Roadster versions were also available, ought to make a right-hand drive, R8 RWS in the UK a dream find.

However, as has been opined on PH previously, things haven't exactly panned out as expected for the RWS. Because despite being the best-driving second-gen R8 yet made, despite the V10's charms being greater than ever and despite the fact that seemingly every limited-edition car commands a chunky premium, all the RWS has done since launch is depreciate. Curious.


What it means, though, is that cars like this Ibis White RWS Coupe are available with fewer than 3,000 miles, for Β£85,000. Now, obviously, that hardly makes it Britain's next great affordable driver's car, but it still looks like conspicuous value for a vehicle of the R8's talents. That sort of money is still being asked for 981 Cayman GT4s, by way of comparison. Even going from the list price, this is nearly Β£30,000 less than new. For a brilliant supercar, one of just 33 registered in the UK according to HowManyLeft. It's baffling.

Perhaps the RWS has struggled, relatively speaking, because it doesn't have a manual gearbox. Perhaps it's because the car isn't super hardcore like a GT3 RS. Maybe it's just not what the traditional R8 customer wanted, the car having found so many fans as a quattro-only supercar for a decade before the introduction of the RWS. Whatever the case, it looks like a canny purchase for the enthusiast now; having spent a chunk of time in one during an Autocar car of the year shoot - where it beat a Lotus Exige, no less - it's easy to vouch for the Audi's huge talent.

The depreciation curve will soften off, too. Moreover, the format is returning, this time as a series production 'RWD' model, which could well draw attention back to the limited-run original. Don't forget the rear-drive Huracan has made a comeback; that's going to cost Β£164,400 before any options, and there's no way it's going to be twice as good as the R8. Even with Amazon Alexa. That's before we even consider what the next Audi R8 might be, which currently seems as likely to have a V10 in it as your next leaf blower does.


But even if all that fails to boost the market for RWS R8s, current or prospective owners shouldn't despair. Because they're still going to be left with one of the best driver's cars Audi has ever made, one blessed with a scintillating powertrain and expertly honed dynamics. Being really picky, one of the cars without stripes and with silver wheels would be ideal, though that's splitting the very finest of subjective hairs, because the RWS - in any configuration - is a gem.

In fact, even that's not a problem, because there are - surprisingly - more in the classifieds. This RWS is brand new, showing 150 miles and moody as anything with its black-on-black colour combo. Or at the other end of the colour scale, this one is white with matching sideblades. Both are more expensive than the featured car, though, and there really is something incredible about this being offered for just Β£2,157 more than a new 992 Carrera. For those drivers who really like driving, there's not even a decision to be made...


SPECIFICATION - AUDI R8 RWS
Engine:
5,204cc, V10
Transmission: 7-speed S Tronic dual-clutch, rear-wheel drive
Power (hp): 540@7,800rpm
Torque (lb ft): 398@4,800rpm
MPG: 22.8
CO2: 283g/km
First registered: 2018
Recorded mileage: 2,700
Price new: Β£112,450
Yours for: Β£84,950

See the original advert here

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drpep

Original Poster:

1,490 posts

126 months

Monday 13th January
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I was fortunate enough to have a drive in a friend's R8 RWS. That 5.2L V10 is an absolute masterpiece; wailing like a banshee up at 8000rpm. That this iteration is only powering the rear wheels adds to the appeal as far as I'm concerned. It's pretty approachable for what it is, too. Fantastic car - someone should get on that quickly.

AmosMoses

3,809 posts

123 months

Monday 13th January
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Cracking car, and unlike the Huracan I actually fit in these!

thelostboy

3,918 posts

183 months

Monday 13th January
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I personally just get irritated that it is pitched as the 'focused' driver's R8. It is a cheaper version; that's it. It is no more special than a regular R8. For many - me included - taking away the 4WD takes away perceived usability.

Gameface

13,764 posts

35 months

Monday 13th January
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At £85K it will struggle against the new TVR...

ReformedPistonhead

429 posts

95 months

Monday 13th January
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Gameface said:
At £85K it will struggle against the new TVR...
Well, 0-60 in around 4 seconds I guess for the Audi.

That will be approximately 3 years faster than the TVR which is not here yet and showing no signs of imminent arrival!

I speak as a disappointed ex-deposit holder on said new TVR.

Very tempted by this R8 though, for sure a future classic, it would be this or one of the 2013 V10+ Manuals in the last shape.

Krikkit

19,494 posts

139 months

Monday 13th January
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thelostboy said:
I personally just get irritated that it is pitched as the 'focused' driver's R8. It is a cheaper version; that's it. It is no more special than a regular R8. For many - me included - taking away the 4WD takes away perceived usability.
Would you use it as a daily? That's the only case where I'd wonder about 4WD, but even then I'd say I'm not likely to drive it in the snow!

ThunderSpook

2,854 posts

169 months

Monday 13th January
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WTF is RWS?

Ray_Aber

148 posts

234 months

Monday 13th January
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It is possible to take black wheels and get them treated so that they are silver? That would open up a whole host of options for me!


Cudd Wudd

623 posts

83 months

Monday 13th January
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Uh-oh, I spotted the word “supercar”... some will need to start this Monday with a stiff drink hehe


PaulJC84

683 posts

175 months

Monday 13th January
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Cupramax said:
ThunderSpook said:
WTF is RWS?
Rear wheel steering, please keep up at the back wink
I always through on this it was rear wheel series. But everything else its rear wheel steering.

HM-2

5,143 posts

127 months

Monday 13th January
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ReformedPistonhead said:
Gameface said:
At £85K it will struggle against the new TVR...
Well, 0-60 in around 4 seconds I guess for the Audi.
3.7 apparently. Personally I think I'd rather have the AWD one, but it does look great and IMO represents pretty decent value for money.

HokumPokum

1,758 posts

163 months

Monday 13th January
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the facelift R8 will now come with rear drive only as the base cooking model

This will somewhat dilute the limited nature of the R8 RWS.


problem is do you want a supercar or an R8? Mac depreciation makes things interesting
do you want 2+2 like a 911
do you want 4wd?


not so easy to answer despite v10

Gary Woodland

2,486 posts

120 months

Monday 13th January
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The reason these are on the slide despite being limited is that the brand new facelift can be ordered with rear drive only. Very strange from Audi in that you'd expect they'd leave the 2WD to the Huracan to drive sales there.

Cupramax

9,143 posts

210 months

Monday 13th January
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PaulJC84 said:
Cupramax said:
ThunderSpook said:
WTF is RWS?
Rear wheel steering, please keep up at the back wink
I always through on this it was rear wheel series. But everything else its rear wheel steering.
You are entirely correct, I’ll hand in my PH badge frown

TomTVR500

249 posts

119 months

Monday 13th January
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The problem is, it is no more special then a standard R8 V10. It simply doesn't differentiate itself enough to be considered a special edition, pure drivers car or a collectors car, hence not appreciating in value like Rennsport Porsches.

I also think cars like this (in the majority) are bought by people who would rather a car is easy to drive fast not enjoyable or involving to drive fast so the fact it is RWD is seen as a disadvantage by the people who are usually drawn to this kind of car.

If it offered a more driver focused setup, maybe a more supple fast road driving setup as seen in the GT4 or a Megane R26.R and a manual gearbox I'm sure it would be revered and far more valuable than it is now.

Either that or make it 4WD again, throw more power at it, some ridiculously overpriced blingy bodywork options, a 24" touch screen infotainment system and it would also be more desirable to the usual suspects.

Paddy78

200 posts

104 months

Monday 13th January
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Gameface said:
At £85K it will struggle against the new TVR...
I don't think something that exists will have difficulty against something that doesn't. I know where my imaginary £85k would be going and it wouldn't be on the imaginary car.

Gameface

13,764 posts

35 months

Monday 13th January
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It was obviously a tongue in cheek comment.

RSbandit

1,248 posts

90 months

Monday 13th January
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Gameface said:
At £85K it will struggle against the new TVR...
Hard to know if that is to be taken as a serious comment...that new TVR arriving any day now...

Gameface

13,764 posts

35 months

Monday 13th January
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RSbandit said:
Gameface said:
At £85K it will struggle against the new TVR...
Hard to know if that is to be taken as a serious comment...that new TVR arriving any day now...
There's a clue in my post above yours.

RSbandit

1,248 posts

90 months

Monday 13th January
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Gameface said:
There's a clue in my post above yours.
I hadnt refreshed the page before i posted but yes that's what I suspected!