RE: Mazda RX-7 | Spotted

RE: Mazda RX-7 | Spotted

Sunday 1st December 2019

Mazda RX-7 | Spotted

Worried all your favourite JDM classics are now out of reach? Don't forget the RX-7...



Those of us into our fast, classic JDM metal have little to be cheerful about at present. The days of just a few years back, when an R32 GT-R NISMO would cost £15k - as would an Evo VI Makinen - and a delivery mileage R34 was £50k, seem like a lifetime ago. We now live in a time of £120k Skylines, £100k NSXs and similarly-priced Impreza 22Bs.

Which is all rather a shame. Because there's that era - from roughly the introduction of the NSX to the mid-2000s - where Japanese models, be they imported or officially on sale, transformed the UK fast car scene. They were different to anything we'd been used to, and proved their worth as driving devices emphatically year after year, as turbos were tweaked, differentials were upgraded and precious kilos trimmed away. Driven in reality or virtually, the era influenced a generation of car enthusiasts like little has since.

The situation today is a somewhat different, with only cars like the Civic Type R, MX-5, Supra and GT86/BRZ duo flying the flag in a similar fashion to how it once was. And while, yes, the GT-R is still soldiering on, it's very much changed as an ownership prospect as the price has crept up. Point being that we all know such an era won't happen again, immediately making those models more desirable, plus as the cars age numbers will inevitably drop (doing the same thing again). Cars that responded famously well to tuning are now in demand as standard and as more and more approach 25 years old, the US market will lap them up.


All of which should lead you to believe that the Mazda RX-7 would be megabucks. It's a stunning looking car (as it always has been), has technical intrigue with its twin-turbo rotary, was great to drive and is game/movie starlet - who can forget Han's Veilsided FD3S in Tokyo Drift? Furthermore, this particular car, imported last year, has been recently resprayed, has covered just 46,000 miles and is entirely standard. With all of the RX-7s now at least 17 years old, this must be one of the best.

Yet despite all that, it's for sale at £16,495. Good luck getting a similar Supra, Skyline or NSX for that money. Of course there's an element of risk buying a 20-year-old car that's pretty high maintenance at the best of times, which has spent the vast majority of its life in Japan and which has a fairly spartan advert. On the other hand, these cars surely can't ever be worth less, there's plenty of rotary knowledge in the UK and it's surely been under much less strain as an unmodified car. Let's face it, too: any 20-year-old vehicle based on a 25-year-old design, however modest the mileage, is going to need some care and affection nowadays. Just be sure to keep close to good oil and petrol supplies!

For fans of the breed, the RX-7 is surely a very hard one to argue against. Perhaps the puny sales in the UK have affected its reputation, but it would surely be a very mean soul who wouldn't categorise the RX-7 as a legend alongside the Skyline, Supra, NSX and the rally saloons. It could, however, be a very wise one who jumps on this before the rest of the world realises...


SPECIFICATION - MAZDA RX-7
Engine:
1,308cc, twin-turbo rotary
Transmission: 5-speed manual, rear-wheel drive
Power (hp): 240@6,500rpm
Torque (lb ft): 217@5,000rpm
MPG: 21ish
CO2: N/A. Expect many
First registered: 1999
Mileage: 46,000
Price new: £32,000 (UK, 1992)
Price now: £16,495

See the original advert here

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British Beef

Original Poster:

2,216 posts

165 months

Sunday 1st December 2019
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Best looking Jap car ever!

Would love one. Had an RX8 and was both the best and worse car I have ever owned.

Addymk2

334 posts

172 months

Sunday 1st December 2019
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I've been tempted to pick one of these up for a long time. Ideally facelifted and in good clean standard condition... I might go and view that in Jan if it's still about. Hmm...

A Winner Is You

24,983 posts

227 months

Sunday 1st December 2019
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Such a pretty looking car, although can't be many left that haven't had aftermarket "improvements"

ZX10R NIN

27,618 posts

125 months

Sunday 1st December 2019
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One of these is on the list after I get the GT350R

BIRMA

3,808 posts

194 months

Sunday 1st December 2019
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I looked at that advert the other day as a member of the Lexus forum was asking about the one I had. My thoughts were that it looks a really nice clean non messed about with example.
They really are nice cars, I loved mine despite engine rebuilds being something an ownership fact of life.

declasm

426 posts

194 months

Sunday 1st December 2019
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My '97 single turbo 430bhp, 44K mile, black RZ is for sale!

Augustus Windsock

3,370 posts

155 months

Sunday 1st December 2019
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Love these but why do some people insist on those foul ‘MaxPower’ body kits on and ruining what is arguably the prettiest Japanese cars ever?

BIRMA

3,808 posts

194 months

Sunday 1st December 2019
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Augustus Windsock said:
Love these but why do some people insist on those foul ‘MaxPower’ body kits on and ruining what is arguably the prettiest Japanese cars ever?
Have a look at some advertised on Pistonheads, in my opinion a crime against decent taste. Some of those bodykits inspired by Fast and Furious a while back are just bordering on ridiculous.
Mine was a bit more restrained.


Edited by BIRMA on Sunday 1st December 14:29

Augustus Windsock

3,370 posts

155 months

Sunday 1st December 2019
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BIRMA said:
Augustus Windsock said:
Love these but why do some people insist on those foul ‘MaxPower’ body kits on and ruining what is arguably the prettiest Japanese cars ever?
Have a look at some advertised on Pistonheads, in my opinion a crime against decent taste. Some of those bodykits inspired by Fast and Furious a while back are just bordering on ridiculous.
Mine was a bit more restrained.


Edited by BIRMA on Sunday 1st December 14:29
To be fair, that looks restrained and quite tasteful
The front splitter actually suits it although I’m not as keen on the real spoiler
And I always love those wheels 👍

BIRMA

3,808 posts

194 months

Sunday 1st December 2019
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Augustus Windsock said:
To be fair, that looks restrained and quite tasteful
The front splitter actually suits it although I’m not as keen on the real spoiler
And I always love those wheels ??
I think I'm right in saying that the rear spoiler was standard for the Bathurst X model.

cerb4.5lee

30,665 posts

180 months

Sunday 1st December 2019
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British Beef said:
Best looking Jap car ever!
Agree! The shape is absolutely stunning to my eyes. cool

I've always wanted one.

cib24

1,117 posts

153 months

Sunday 1st December 2019
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I have owned my car for nearly 5 years (the one with the wing below) and I have put over 20,000 miles on it in that time. No rebuild needed for me, compression is just as good as it was the day I got it after it was imported from Japan. My car gets used for track days regularly, road trips, trips to Tesco, B&Q, you name it. It has never let me down. You will run into nagging issues on a 20-25 year old car but once those are sorted the car is just as easy to take care of as any other car.

Here is the secret to happy FD RX-7 rotary ownership:
  1. 10w-40 mineral or semi-synthetic oil (just buy whatever is under £25 on ECP or Opie Oils) and change it every 3,000-4,000 miles (more if you do track days).
  2. Cheap copper spark plugs from NGK and change them every 5,000-6,000 miles (£30).
  3. If you decide to modify the car know that for every single modification, even a simple bolt-on like an intake, then you need to get the car remapped each time you change something. If you don't do that then you will play with fire, so install everything all at once and then go get it tuned or leave the car alone.
  4. If you stay under 400hp and on the twin turbo setup the car will be as reliable as it is in stock 265-280ps form. If you go beyond 400hp your mileage may vary, and if you are pushing far beyond 500-550hp do not expect longevity.
In my view and many others, it's the best looking car to ever come out of Japan and they handle far better out of the box than any Skyline R32, R33, R34, NSX, Evo, STI or Supra.












Edited by cib24 on Sunday 1st December 19:12

BIRMA

3,808 posts

194 months

Sunday 1st December 2019
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Well said and that is a lovely late model.

Rhythmeister

58 posts

171 months

Sunday 1st December 2019
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In my eyes too it's still the prettiest car to come out of Japan and of course it handles well, it's a Mazda! I did enjoy making several of them move aside at a Mazdafest track day at my local circuit from behind the wooden wheel of my boosted V spec Eunos Roadster, it was like being in a real life Gran Turismo race and spanking the class above, they're just SO good looking from EVERY angle in the flesh, epic cars cool

FN2TypeR

7,091 posts

93 months

Sunday 1st December 2019
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cib24 said:







Edited by cib24 on Sunday 1st December 19:12
That looks absolutely tremendous and is a credit to yourself

cloud9

ghost83

5,478 posts

190 months

Sunday 1st December 2019
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I remember when these were 5-6k and I remember been offered An R32gtr by the wife when I was 21 but couldn’t insure it and those were 8-9k


BrotherMouzone

3,169 posts

174 months

Sunday 1st December 2019
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cib24 said:


Beautiful car. I like the early model with its cleaner shape, but I think my favourite is a later one like yours.

Can they be ‘spanked’ on track day like a Honda engine then? My Honda’s B18 engine feels very robust and happy to live at the VTEC zone all day (just add oil). Are the RX-7s similarity robust when being used on track? (i.e. happy to sit at near top of the rev range all day)

samoht

5,717 posts

146 months

Sunday 1st December 2019
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BrotherMouzone said:
Can they be ‘spanked’ on track day like a Honda engine then? My Honda’s B18 engine feels very robust and happy to live at the VTEC zone all day (just add oil). Are the RX-7s similarity robust when being used on track? (i.e. happy to sit at near top of the rev range all day)
The basic engine, yes, it's robust to sustained high-rev use I think. Since it has no cambelt or valvegear, it's pretty comfortable being worked up to the 8k limiter. I've heard the rev-warning buzzer on the way down the box a few times on track, with no ill effects.

If you have problems I think they'd more likely be from the standard sequential twin turbos, the heat and heat cycles can get to them I think (the vacuum lines, the solenoids, the big cast-iron housing and the turbos themselves).

Fast323

35 posts

93 months

Sunday 1st December 2019
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I bought my 1994 RX-7 with 50k miles on the original engine and did a combination of 20k fast road miles and about 20 trackdays before the engine finally let go,it was a waterseal that failed not an apex seal requiring a rebuild and the engine was duly rebuilt with a single turbo conversion.

They love to be 'spanked' hard on track, it's what they thrive on, so long as you buy wisely and treat them right they are actually more robust than people think.The press called it Japans E-type at the time of release, praise indeed!

Noyzboy

93 posts

218 months

Sunday 1st December 2019
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BIRMA said:
I think I'm right in saying that the rear spoiler was standard for the Bathurst X model.
The "dolphin" shape rear spoiler was standard for 1995 to 1999. Fitted more widely than Bathurst X model.
The RS has one