RE: Volkswagen Scirocco: PH Buying Guide

RE: Volkswagen Scirocco: PH Buying Guide

Tuesday 31st October 2017

Volkswagen Scirocco: PH Buying Guide

What to look out for if you're thinking of buying the Golf's sporty sibling



Launched in 2008, and clearly derived from the Iroc concept shown a couple of years previously, the 3rd generation Scirocco continued the formula of its predecessors by offering a four-seat coupe based on Golf underpinnings.


In this case, it was the Golf Mk5, which was a good place to start. For this coupe, VW made the front and rear tracks a little wider, whilst leaving the standard suspension set-up much the same, so a sporty feel was guaranteed. Buyers could opt for the Dynamic Chassis Control (DCC) that offered a choice of Comfort, Normal and Sport settings for the suspension.

From launch, VW fitted the Scirocco with a choice of 1.4- and 2.0-litre turbo petrol engines taken from the Golf range, giving buyers power ranging from 120 to 200hp. Few bothered with the 120hp unit, but the 160hp 1.4 TSI proved popular with those who valued style over performance. For anyone who wanted more of the latter, the GTI-sourced turbo petrol was the one to have, and its power increased to 210hp at the end of 2009.

If that wasn't enough to satisfy you, Volkswagen launched the Scirocco R in 2009 with a 265hp 2.0-litre turbo petrol motor. An XDS electronic differential helped get that power to the road through the front wheels and there was lowered suspension too. As well as the unique body kit, the R came with DCC as standard.


Diesel power was on offer almost from the beginning of the Scirocco's life with 140- and 170hp units. If you need to cover plenty of miles, these are the ones to look at, especially the more powerful of the two for its blend of strong overtaking force and economy.

We, however, will concentrate more on the 2.0-litre turbo petrol and R models, as they hold the greatest interest for us. The 2.0-litre model offers 0-62mph in 6.2 seconds, while the R requires just 5.8. Top speed for the R is 155mph, 10mph more than its 200hp sister model.

A mild facelift in 2014 introduced a revised front bumper with aero blades on the edges, while new indicators and daytime running lights arrived at the same time. The R received new Cadiz alloy wheels, and the engine line-up was rejigged to better reflect VW's, but not much changed and Scirocco sales slowed to a trickle before the axe fell earlier this year.

Thanks to those small changes during its life, an early Scirocco still looks remarkably fresh and is a good used punt. While £4,500 will bag you an early car with high miles, we'd reckon on spending £7,000 for a late 2009-on 2.0 TSI in GT spec with around 70,000 miles. Go for an R and prices start at £11,500 and rise to £33,000 for a nearly new one from a VW dealer.


PHer's view:
"Frankly I love it, which is not to say that it's without foibles. As a driving machine in either of the two modes it enjoys - pootling or on a razz - it is quite brilliant. The look of the car is still very pretty, even though it is now an old design."
Simon Phillips


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CedricN

Original Poster:

337 posts

76 months

Tuesday 31st October 2017
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Had one as a loaner when my ibiza cupra was in the workshop. It is a pretty nice car, i just wish it was better to drive to differentiate it from a golf, going from the cupra it felt like a large boat, even with the dcc.

The 1.4 twin charge is so nice to drive with the supercharger helping alot. To bad about reliability and hilarious oil consumption. My cupra had 1l/1200km before i handed it back at the end of the lease(glad i didnt buy it privately).

Mike1990

540 posts

62 months

Tuesday 31st October 2017
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Always liked the looks of these. I quite like the fact the Interior is based on the Mk5/6/7 Golf’s depending on age, but kept the Exterior pretty much the same as when it first came out.

phil4

306 posts

169 months

Tuesday 31st October 2017
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Had a 2009 R, which was my first VW and a nice intro to what a pokey daily could be like (previous cars had been pretty anemic and around 100 bhp down).

It always seemed nicely planted when driving, had a nice look from most angles, and with the DCC in sport mode the handling was pretty good too.

I liked it so much that when I part-ex'd it for a new car for the wife, I saw it for sale in the dealers and tried to buy it back a few days later. I was too late.

If it weren't for the stupid VW hierarchy games (it can't have the same more power than the Golf R), and the fact they've now given up, I'd have given strong consideration to a new one. If I was in the game for a 2nd hand car, I'd give it a definite thought.

bungz

796 posts

51 months

Tuesday 31st October 2017
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There is a brand new one of these at the end of our street.

Looks dated to me inside and out.

cmoose

41,941 posts

160 months

Tuesday 31st October 2017
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bungz said:
There is a brand new one of these at the end of our street.

Looks dated to me inside and out.
Funnily enough, I think the facelifted version looks more dated than the original. They grafted on some more angular lines, cuz that's the rage right now, and they don't sit well with the original curves. Has the air of an old car with some chintzy aftermarket 'modern' lights.

The original car is ageing very nicely, if you ask me. Still looks very fresh.
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boxsterbob

1 posts

9 months

Tuesday 31st October 2017
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The design never really did it for me I'm afraid. Has the look of a slightly squashed frog about it!

kambites

54,323 posts

152 months

Tuesday 31st October 2017
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For me, the revived Scirocco never really seemed to do enough to distinguish itself from the contemporary Golf; at least compared to the older cars which carried the name and the Corrado. Of course the price reflected that, but I think VW should have aimed higher, personally.

coldel

1,184 posts

77 months

Tuesday 31st October 2017
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I had a 1.4 TSI as a company car back in 2009 so super rare on the road at the time, a great little car at the time and had lots of positive comments on it. Something which started just as I handed it back when I left the job was the accelerator pedal squeak! As you press the pedal you hear a noise which sounds like there is a hamster trapped under there lol. I trawled the forums at the time and there were no known solutions, even from VW. So unless that has been sorted since then do check in the 1.4 (it only affected them) as it is BLOODY ANNOYING it squeaking all the time.

As for putting 300+bhp through the front wheels on the R, not sure that would make it anymore fun than having say around 260bhp? Sure enjoy your straight line traffic light grand prix but not sure how you can put down much more power without some serious chassis upgrades?

mattman

1,935 posts

153 months

Tuesday 31st October 2017
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picked up one on a cheap lease for 2 years - i'm no Lewis Hamilton so performance and handling are fine for me around the local ringroads.

Styling is subjective but to me, its certainly a lot more attractive than the dull box Golf - at least it has some design features and a coupe look!

2.0 TSI matches well to DSG box - but it does miss not having cruise control

Can easily fit 2 adults and 2 teenagers in without issue as well - probably not recommended for long journeys but better than the TT i had previously

6 months left on mine and its been great, done everything it should have and never let me down, cost me less than the depreciation on buying one as well

I wouldn't mind trying the R version to see what the extra performance is like, but unlikely to get another as i rarely have the same model twice

culpz

3,893 posts

43 months

Wednesday 1st November 2017
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I loved mine and would deffo have another, at some point. Would have to be either a 2.0 TSI GT or an R, both pre-facelift models, with DSG and, if i could find one, in Viper Green.

I had the basic 1.4 TSI 122 model. It wasn't a bad engine and was pretty nippy but it did not suit the car at all. Mine was also in Rising Blue, which is another lovely colour option.

coldel

1,184 posts

77 months

Wednesday 1st November 2017
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culpz said:
I loved mine and would deffo have another, at some point. Would have to be either a 2.0 TSI GT or an R, both pre-facelift models, with DSG and, if i could find one, in Viper Green.

I had the basic 1.4 TSI 122 model. It wasn't a bad engine and was pretty nippy but it did not suit the car at all. Mine was also in Rising Blue, which is another lovely colour option.
I had the 160 1.4 in black, looked very good :-) Quite pokey but like you if I ever got another one would have to be the 2.0 petrol.

culpz

3,893 posts

43 months

Wednesday 1st November 2017
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Guys, just spotted an error under the power-train section. It says; "Most PHers looking at a Scirocco will lean towards the 2.0-litre TFSI turbo petrol unit. If you do, remember to check that the cambelt has been replaced at the correct 80,000-mile or four-year interval, whichever is sooner".

The 2.0 TSI engine is actually chain-driven and not a cambelt. It's the EA888 engine but slightly different from the 'belt-driven MK5 Golf GTI that it's based on. The R version is a cambelt though and not a chain.

kiethton

9,998 posts

111 months

Wednesday 1st November 2017
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This article has come at a good time!

My girlfriend has had one for the past 3.5 years, a '58 2.0 TSi with full GT spec and panoramic roof - the latter makes a huge difference to the light inside the car. Agree on the sat nav points but do think the GT pack for the leather seats and upgraded alloys is a necessity.

Hers has taken her to 92.5k miles from the 70k she bought it on with no issue beyond CV covers and coil packs. They are a good steer but can eat front tyres (~10k miles a front) and do go and handle well.

Hers is soon going however, eyes on a M135i and likely worth <£5k owing to the inconsiderate parking inflicted on it by others


WCZ

5,364 posts

125 months

Wednesday 1st November 2017
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didn't realize the 2.0 was so close to the R in 0-60

PorkRind

2,218 posts

136 months

Wednesday 1st November 2017
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Borrowed one for a few weeks back in 2012 when i started a new job, nice interior. DSG was OK - weird how theres no engine braking with it though. Expected better than 28mpg from the 2.0 tsi. It was quite torquey and looked good in the green colour, but id not have one, i'm over the fwd hatch thing.

xjay1337

10,452 posts

49 months

Wednesday 1st November 2017
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PorkRind said:
Borrowed one for a few weeks back in 2012 when i started a new job, nice interior. DSG was OK - weird how theres no engine braking with it though. Expected better than 28mpg from the 2.0 tsi. It was quite torquey and looked good in the green colour, but id not have one, i'm over the fwd hatch thing.
My friend had a 2.0 TSI for a couple of years and would regularly get 35mpg on any type of longer journey, in many cases over 40!


timberman

400 posts

146 months

Wednesday 1st November 2017
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kept mine for 5 years
2.0gt tsi with the dsg box

mine was Viper green and had the sunroof, which although it would only tilt helped make the cabin feel a lot less claustrophobic, and being a nice conrast to the green improved the looks on the outside.
often wish I still had it

w824gb3

163 posts

153 months

Thursday 2nd November 2017
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Are the 0-60 times right for the 2.0tsi?

The MK7 GTI Golf is 6.5 ish with 220 bhp. How can this be faster with less power? They must be similar weights.

Anyway the golf won for us because its more practical, better looking inside and out and the wife wanted checked seats!!

coldel

1,184 posts

77 months

Thursday 2nd November 2017
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It wasnt mentioned but boot access on the Scirocco is SHOCKING. The aperture is narrow and the lights cut in at the sides. It can take stuff, but you have to work at it to get bulky stuff in through the gap.

timberman

400 posts

146 months

Thursday 2nd November 2017
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w824gb3 said:
Are the 0-60 times right for the 2.0tsi?

The MK7 GTI Golf is 6.5 ish with 220 bhp. How can this be faster with less power? They must be similar weights.

Anyway the golf won for us because its more practical, better looking inside and out and the wife wanted checked seats!!
Vw originally just quoted the same time for the Scirocco as they did for the golf gti but the Scirocco is lighter,
also Vw seem to be quite conservative with their figures

because I was curious and had the kit to do it I timed my car,
with the dsg box fitted it will indeed get to 60 in just over 6 secs, I tried several times and got the same result each time