RE: The ?100k Honda NSX: Spotted

RE: The ?100k Honda NSX: Spotted

Wednesday 25th July 2018

The £100k Honda NSX: Spotted

The NSX hits big money, but can it really be worth so much?



Is there anything left to say about the original Honda NSX, nearly 30 years after launch? To be honest, not really. We kind of know all that really needs to be known about. We even know, which is especially pertinent to this car, that the later (2002-on) facelift is the most desirable non-R NSX, even if it did lose the pop up lamps.

But there is a fresh discussion to have on the New Sportscar eXperimental (oh, you knew that as well?) in 2018. That's because, having once upon a time written about an NA1 NSX-R at £45k, a high mileage NSX more recently at £28,000 and near enough every other possible NSX to write about, we now have this: the £100,000 Honda NSX.


As you might expect for a six-figure sum, this NSX is an absolute gem. At present it's the only post-2002 car available on PH in the UK, believed to be one of the final 12 ever produced for these shores (a 2005 reg would support that). The Platinum White Pearl with red leather combo is very rare, the car has covered less than 50,000 miles (with a Honda service 400 miles previously) and has only ever been owned by one person. If it's not the best NSX around, then it must be right up there.

But it's £100,000. The car that aimed to show up the supercar establishment is now worth as much as those very same vehicles - so can it possibly be worth a six figure sum?


Well, the NSX certainly has rarity on its side. While it's been forgotten in the years of reverence since its demise, the mid-engined Honda didn't sell all that well in the UK. Badge snobbery was a problem; buyers unconvinced of the big H at £60k when they could have had a Porsche or a Jaguar instead. What that means now is the NSX is properly scarce: see the stats of HowManyLeft, which suggests there are 147 NSXs on UK roads. And 279 Ferrari F430 F1s...

That fabled powertrain will count for much in the classic market too, the combination of that sensational VTEC V6 with a six-speed manual of equal class - something that's now unrepeatable. However nice the old 911 Carrera flat sixes might be, they're not going to match the NSX's engine for excitement.


Problem is, of course, that £100,000 buys rather more than just a 996 C2. As well as cars like this lovely 997 GT3, it also offers even more exotic possibilities: this Ferrari 360 Modena is the same money with less than 10,000 miles, and this Lamborghini Gallardo has the same mileage at two thirds the price. Even the NSX's R34 GT-R contemporary, this one seemingly about as good as the Skyline gets, is £25k less than the Honda.

A prospective buyer is not short of options, then. But those alternatives are also more common, and opportunities to buy cars as rare as the NSX, in the condition this one is in, don't come up all that often. Whenever they might come along, you can bet that one devotee is surely going to be extremely happy indeed.


SPECIFICATION - HONDA NSX
Engine:
3,179cc V6
Power (hp): 280@7,300rpm
Torque (lb ft): 224@5,300rpm
MPG: N/A
CO2: N/A
First registered: 2005
Recorded mileage: 49,000
Price then: £c.£60k
Price now: £99,880

See the original ad here.

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Kenny Powers

Original Poster:

2,618 posts

127 months

Wednesday 25th July 2018
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It's worth whatever someone else is willing to pay for it in order that they can have it instead of the bloke stood next to them with an equally accommodating cheque book. In the case of this car I would imagine someone will certainly pay £100k. Therefore, in my mind, yes it’s absolutely worth £100k. It’s not worth it to me, but if I were a wealthy car collector then it definitely would be biggrin

Butter Face

30,308 posts

160 months

Wednesday 25th July 2018
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I’d have it if I had the cash, though I’d prefer one of these....



But it’s probably double the money.

aka_kerrly

12,418 posts

210 months

Wednesday 25th July 2018
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The NSX has always been a dream car for me that sadly seams to getting further away rather than the possibility it once was.

one of my biggest regrets is not buying an early 89/91era NSX when they were around 10k about 15 years ago when i bought my house. over that period a10k car could be worth 30-45k now which is a better return than my property!!!!

gtrstill

66 posts

144 months

Wednesday 25th July 2018
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I actually own a 25k mile from new R34 GTR Vspec II and this is about the only other 90s Jap sports car I would trade it for. Totally get the fact that there is plenty of choice but I am fairly sure only an NSX will give the same feeling of the roller doors going up on the garage. Or a new one of course!

LarJammer

2,237 posts

210 months

Wednesday 25th July 2018
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I absolutely love the colour combo, i believe it is unique. But the last time it was on sale it was a bit cheaper, i think this dealer is being cheeky with the price.

Dale487

1,334 posts

123 months

Wednesday 25th July 2018
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aka_kerrly said:
The NSX has always been a dream car for me that sadly seams to getting further away rather than the possibility it once was.

one of my biggest regrets is not buying an early 89/91era NSX when they were around 10k about 15 years ago when i bought my house. over that period a10k car could be worth 30-45k now which is a better return than my property!!!!
I look at the 964RS similarly, the deposit for my house would have bought one - aren't they worth at least £125K now? I square it by thinking; who wants to be the guy with a 911 but lives in a tiny rented flat? (wrong website for that opinion) Plus I'd have used it, had no garage and the maintenance and insurance would have at least eaten into the profits if not been ruinously expensive.

Rob-s5mok

92 posts

100 months

Wednesday 25th July 2018
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Having driven an NSX-R, I would have to say that they are great to look at, but somewhat compromised, at least on UK roads.

While the facelift NSX is seen as being the ultimate iteration of the model, most people agree the more charming look features pop ups. The sweet spot of NSX are the late 'NA2' pop ups, which featured the 3.2 engine, 6 speed gearbox and updated interior of the facelift, but in the classic shape.

Ninja59

3,691 posts

112 months

Wednesday 25th July 2018
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The original NSX is "weird" in a way as it should have really provided a concentrated essence for a number of years of this halo model that portions of it could be sprinkled across different models in the range, the only (I admit a good vehicle) was the Civic Type R. But Honda never did really use it in that way.

For me the new NSX is failing at the same thing, Honda are not sprinkling that "NSX Essence" over some of the other models in the range. A Jap company who definitely are is Toyota with Lexus. The mere mention of an LFA to any petrolhead probably brings the vocal exhaust range that car has and those exhausts. Some of which has then trickled down to some of the future F models we see now LC F (which is coming), RC F and some of the "previous" models GS F and IS F.

Equally, I know many "hate" the usage of halo models being reduced down to trim levels on more cooking versions, but it is one of the reasons that so many brands are successful it allows people to buy something with all the looks, but at a cost point that is less prohibitive. From your M Sport, AMG Line, S Line, ST Line, F Sport and others.

In standalone choice of cars of this era I think it would be a difficult choice between an NSX or a 355. Both of which I love (more the facelift for me over the pop ups, but I do understand there is a love of popups).

The colour is fantastic on this and I definitely would buy it. But is it a £100k car, the issue with this example and the only reason the price is so high is down to mileage and rarity. I suspect that the rarity will support an increase in miles, but I think you would loose a fair wedge daily driving it if you were to!


WJNB

2,637 posts

161 months

Wednesday 25th July 2018
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Somebody's been to Halfords & bought a giant can of 'cabin shine' the dodgy car dealers favourite along with tyre paint.
I remember a test drive in the targa version & it was a non-event entirely without interest or drama.
Very overrated with an arse that's too long.

Dr G

15,175 posts

242 months

Wednesday 25th July 2018
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I don't like 911s much but even I'd have one over the NSX.

The Honda V6 is alright but late Porsche engines sound better and are more exciting. Probably nearing the NSX in depreciation resistance too. And easier to sell. And way faster.

I suppose it's inevitable but I find it a tiny bit sad when a car becomes a 'collectable' rather than a driver.

Jex

838 posts

128 months

Wednesday 25th July 2018
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The NSX scared Ferrari when their offering was the 348. The 355 was considered a great improvement on the 348 and 'the answer' to the NSX. You can get a very nice 355 with fewer miles for less than £100k. I know which I would prefer, but then it is all a matter of taste and availability. (Strangely Ferrari V8 prices have been stagnant, or dropping slightly for a few years while others' prices rise, e.g. Porsches and fast Fords.)

cib24

1,117 posts

153 months

Wednesday 25th July 2018
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But then you have to service the 355 and it costs like £20,0000 to do so because you need to remove the freaking engine...NSX for me please no matter how great the 355 sounds.

Jex

838 posts

128 months

Wednesday 25th July 2018
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cib24 said:
But then you have to service the 355 and it costs like £20,0000 to do so because you need to remove the freaking engine...NSX for me please no matter how great the 355 sounds.
Cam belt service £750 - every three years.

cib24

1,117 posts

153 months

Wednesday 25th July 2018
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Is it the belt that is a mere £750? I understand you cannot get to the cam belt without removing the motor which is why there is a recommended Major Engine Service on the 355 every 3 years or 30,000 miles.

WCZ

10,526 posts

194 months

Wednesday 25th July 2018
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good cars but not £100k good, same as the R34 gtr's which are disgustingly expensive now

LotusOmega375D

7,627 posts

153 months

Wednesday 25th July 2018
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Someone will buy it.

There does seem to be a certain amount of rose-tinted spectacles when reviewing the NSX though. It was always underpowered from new with 280PS, so no wonder it wasn't exactly selling like hot cakes come 2005. In the same time frame, Ferrari had moved on from 348 (300PS) via F355, F360 to the F430 (480PS), also still available as a manual.

Also the NSX never looked as good as a Ferrari IMO. It never really had the flowing Pininfarina curves. The rear view in particular seemed sort of American. Anyway, interesting car nevertheless.

chrisironside

662 posts

162 months

Wednesday 25th July 2018
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Love the NSX, and that looks mint. But don't think any non-Type R NSX should be going for 6 figures.

J4CKO

41,562 posts

200 months

Wednesday 25th July 2018
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Sure its worth it to someone, just not me, I think you have to have had all sorts of other cars and loads of cash to get to the point where an old, not that fast, very 80s Honda is worth 100 grand.

Pearls before swine and all that but I would take that 80k McLaren all day long.

I havent driven one but how good can it really be compared to that ? 270 bhp, even allowing for the Senna mystique you would have to really want one.

It shares a basic engine with the Rover 800 as well.


hondansx

4,569 posts

225 months

Wednesday 25th July 2018
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The reality is that is a unique car, the pearlescent white was not available to the UK. If it wasn't a 'Last 12' car, given the mileage, it would not be up for that amount. I think they are probably testing the water.

Paid almost £30k less for a facelift NSX last year with far fewer miles - it's our fourth!

I am most certainly a fan boy, but worth remembering that EVO magazine did a group test against the almighty Cayman GT4, and the NSX got the nod.

It is not a car to take on a test drive and assume you've learnt everything about it. It needs some time to learn. Unlike modern supercars, it is far more subtle. The noise is all induction and no exhaust. To hear it better, you keep the windows UP! The clutch is tricky, but the gearbox rifle-bolt in action and sublime to heel and toe in. The steering is slow and needs time to adjust to. You are rewarded with feel and adjustment on the limit.

I'm not rose tinted; I'm also fortunate to have a Performante which is polar opposite. I have had all sorts of 911s including 997 GT3 and 991 GT3. The NSX is the only car that stays.

Ultimately though, price comes down to rarity - good ol' supply and demand. They made less than 15 a year for the UK. Think about how many iterations of GT3 there are in comparison.

Derek Chevalier

3,942 posts

173 months

Wednesday 25th July 2018
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Dr G said:
but late Porsche engines sound better.
Which ones?